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The protest at the capitol was simply people wanting their voices to be heard. They didn't burn anything down or kill anyone to accomplish that either.
Their voices were heard November 3rd 2020, it turned out that the voices of 81 million others were heard too.
 
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That is not a claim of knowledge of where he hid anything, only of where it was not allowed.

Are you claiming he only hid things where he wasn't allowed to?

Then why not mention keeping it in the bathroom, or in his sock drawer, or in his car? If it wasn't allowed to be kept in those places, why not mention those?
 
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Their voices were heard November 3rd 2020, it turned out that the voices of 81 million others were heard too.

If they were heard, they were ignored. Tyranny of the "majority" suddenly became ok?
 
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Don’t believe the U.S. and it’s NATO allies are not opposing Putin. The U.S. military is providing indirect support. There is a bipartisan effort opposing Putin’s plan to retake ground held by the USSR.

I'm aware of the endless aid we've given them, and continue giving. But the claim of moving US forces and F-35s is an empty claim since none of that is being employed. Moving around is just posturing.
 
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The protest at the capitol was simply people wanting their voices to be heard. They didn't burn anything down or kill anyone to accomplish that either.

There never was any "protest" at the Capitol on Jan 6, 2021. The first activity on Capitol grounds was a breach of the security cordon by the Proud Boys just before 1 pm (while Trump's speach was still going and at the moment the Joint Session to count the electoral votes began). As the leading elements of the crowd proceeded across the Capitol lawn police were assaulted at every intermediate barrier until the growing crowd halted at the edge of the hardscaped terrace outside the building at a newly constructed police barrier. More confrontations with the police would occur at that barrier until (mostly engineered by the Proud Boys) that barrier was breached. Then the same at the base of the Capitol steps, at the top of the Capitol steps until finally a Proud Boy used a stolen police shied to break down a window and let the mob into the Capitol Building one hour and 20 minutes after the first barrier went down. They penetrated through multiple layers of defenses with pauses to regroup and allow the crowd to build. No protest at the Capitol, just a carefully executed attack.
 
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Just weeks after the FBI raided the home of the former president (and probable future presidential candidate opponent to joe biden), the FBI has apparently already started leaking data about what they found--and it has nothing to do with "Nuclear documents". It's supposed information on the French president's love life.

If that's the best thing they've got on Trump after this raid, they've messed up worse than ever this time.
Rolling Stone report: Trump boasted he had intel on Macron’s sex life

The issue has surged back into the spotlight in the wake of the FBI raid on Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate, during which authorities seized sensitive documents, including one titled “info re: President of France.”
Well if you did that on purpose it would be malicious intent. Is that what the OP is being accused of?
I’m over a week late getting to this and have only gotten to this quoted post…but since when is “news” from the DOJ/FBI “leaked”…if it was released to the public, via the news media (or as I see @Hans Blaster has posted) on some official government website (or mirror)), then it is by definition “not leaked”.

This is called “journalism”, it’s been a while since we’ve seen some, so I guess that’s why it seems unfamiliar!

This is how it is supposed to work, you’re down to complaining that things “are out of control” what used to be “the norms”.
 
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I already replied as fast as I could.

Your response didn't address it whatsoever. You simply said 'I've heard chants consisting of all kinds of ideas. "Burn it all down!" and "Defund the Police". What should happen to those who chanted those things?'

Can you address the points raised?
 
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If they were heard, they were ignored. Tyranny of the "majority" suddenly became ok?

If an election becomes the 'tyrany of the majority' then we've passed through the looking glass.
 
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Then why not mention keeping it in the bathroom, or in his sock drawer, or in his car? If it wasn't allowed to be kept in those places, why not mention those?
I mentioned those because of complaints about those - wife’s underwear drawer and son’s bedroom. You can mention other places if you want to.
 
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I mentioned those because of complaints about those - wife’s underwear drawer and son’s bedroom. You can mention other places if you want to.

Since he won't, I will.

There is the drawers of desks (plural) in the "45Office" containing 3 documents with classification markings.

There is a closet in the "45 Office" (ex-MaL Bridal Suite) with a box that was numbered "2" by the search team. (See widely circulated photograph of documents spread out on carpet of said office.) Lot's of felonies there.

Then there is the storage area. With many boxes containing government documents (about 100 with classification markings). Not sure what is normally stored there, perhaps the Halloween decorations, who knows. I'm sure we'll eventually get some nice photos in a court filing, probably a government response to a "motion to dismiss" filing, but let's not get to far ahead of ourselves.

And those are just the places where illegal material was *found*.
 
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There never was any "protest" at the Capitol on Jan 6, 2021. The first activity on Capitol grounds was a breach of the security cordon by the Proud Boys just before 1 pm (while Trump's speach was still going and at the moment the Joint Session to count the electoral votes began). As the leading elements of the crowd proceeded across the Capitol lawn police were assaulted at every intermediate barrier until the growing crowd halted at the edge of the hardscaped terrace outside the building at a newly constructed police barrier. More confrontations with the police would occur at that barrier until (mostly engineered by the Proud Boys) that barrier was breached. Then the same at the base of the Capitol steps, at the top of the Capitol steps until finally a Proud Boy used a stolen police shied to break down a window and let the mob into the Capitol Building one hour and 20 minutes after the first barrier went down. They penetrated through multiple layers of defenses with pauses to regroup and allow the crowd to build. No protest at the Capitol, just a carefully executed attack.

I guess it depends on the narrative.
 
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Since he won't, I will.

There is the drawers of desks (plural) in the "45Office" containing 3 documents with classification markings.

There is a closet in the "45 Office" (ex-MaL Bridal Suite) with a box that was numbered "2" by the search team. (See widely circulated photograph of documents spread out on carpet of said office.) Lot's of felonies there.

Then there is the storage area. With many boxes containing government documents (about 100 with classification markings). Not sure what is normally stored there, perhaps the Halloween decorations, who knows. I'm sure we'll eventually get some nice photos in a court filing, probably a government response to a "motion to dismiss" filing, but let's not get to far ahead of ourselves.

And those are just the places where illegal material was *found*.

Allegedly. Since nobody, including Trump's lawyers were allowed to observe the raid activities, and no body cameras were used by the agents, there was little to no transparency and leaves more questions than answers.
 
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Their voices were heard November 3rd 2020, it turned out that the voices of 81 million others were heard too.

Are you saying voter suppression is an issue that has been solved now?
 
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I guess you don't see the connection or the conflict of interest.
Anyway, good day to you! :wave:
So I take it we won't be getting an explanation of how this is in any way relevant? Because it looks a whole lot like simple guilt by association is being implied.
 
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Allegedly. Since nobody, including Trump's lawyers were allowed to observe the raid activities, and no body cameras were used by the agents, there was little to no transparency and leaves more questions than answers.
Hasn't Donald himself claimed to have watched the "raid activities" from his security cameras?

NYPost said:
Former President Donald Trump is considering releasing security footage of federal agents executing a search warrant at his Mar-a-Lago estate last week after he and his family watched the raid as it happened, according to a new report.

Trump weighs releasing security footage of FBI Mar-a-Lago raid: report
 
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Hasn't Donald himself claimed to have watched the "raid activities" from his security cameras?



Trump weighs releasing security footage of FBI Mar-a-Lago raid: report

If that's true, I hope he does release it. See if CNN, MSNBC and all the rest of the MSM bunch actually report on it, or if they decide to just say, "Fake news! Nothin' to see here!", just like with Hunter's laptop, which has been admitted to be real (long after the election of 2020, of course!)
 
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If that's true, I hope he does release it. See if CNN, MSNBC and all the rest of the MSM bunch actually report on it, or if they decide to just say, "Fake news! Nothin' to see here!", just like with Hunter's laptop, which has been admitted to be real (long after the election of 2020, of course!)
Is "Hunter's laptop" one laptop or three? Does the laptop(s) exist or only copies of the hard-drive(s)? What exactly was verified? How did these files come to be there? How do we know?
 
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People plead guilty all the time as part of a plea-deal if their lawyer is convinced that they'd either lose the case, or that an impartial jury would be hard to come by, or a good deal was enough to satisfy the client. Happens all the time.

But it mostly happens when they're guilty.
 
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