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Fantastic 4

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This movie was, appropriately, fantastic. My son and I watched the afternoon show today, and it was great. The audience cheered when Johnny did the 'Flame On' thing and really flew for the first time. The FX for Reed were obvious CGI, but exactly what are people expecting? Ioan Gruffud might be able to stretch as an actor, but even Jim Carrey needed CGI to become the Mask, and he's the closest thing we have to a real live rubberface.

The Doom storyline was...eh. At least he's from Latveria, though you wouldn't know it from his accent. It isn't even mentioned until much later in the movie. And there is no question that Doom is EVIL, pretty much right from the start. His plan is simple: forget taking over the world, rescuing his mother's soul from Mephisto, or stealing Blackbeard's treasure...he just wants to kill the Fantastic Four. Hey, it works for me.

Still, there are sequal possibilities all over, and watching the FF in action was just pure fun. There's some angst for the Thing, of course; it wouldn't be the FF without Thing-angst. But it doesn't have the heavy-handed moral issues that predominate the X-Men movies, nor do we get the constant dose of Spider-Man-esque 'I've got these awesome powers but my life still sucks'.

The origin seems to take more from the newer, Ultimate FF comic series as opposed to the original, which had Sue and Johnny more or less passengers on Reed's rocket flight. Now Sue's a scientist and Johnny's an extreme-sports nut who flunked out of NASA. But watching the team in action, particularly during the showdown with Doom at the end, is exactly what I wanted to see, along with the spot-on Thing-Torch back-and-forth rivalry. Interesting stretchy effects (some of them even top what Pixar did with Elasti-girl, believe it or not), and the Torch is just absolutely awesome. If only Fox had done Spider-Man instead of Columbia...we could dream of the Torch-Spidey teamup that every true comic fan wants to see. Of course, we could always have the Thing and Wolverine sit down over a few hundred beers...it wouldn't quite be the same, but you take what you can get.

The Thing gets the best 'human' scenes, as he struggles to cope with his transformation. Simple things like picking up a discarded ring or drinking from a glass become trials, and it's only when he realizes that his friends will realy need his 'Thingness' that he accepts what he has become. Of course, having someone like Alicia Masters along always helps.

No wedding in this one, but it's certainly a possibility for the (please let there be a) sequel. The special FX were great, especially the Torch and Reed; imagine what they'll be able to do in another year or two.

I give it an enthusiastic, FANTASTIC two Things up.
 
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It was enjoyable, and that's all I'm looking for. :) When you go to a movie expecting it to clear out the Academy Awards, then you'll be disappointed 90% of the time. Go to a movie for enjoyment, and you'll be even happier when it is Academy Award clearing material. :)

As I expected, Victor "Dr. Doom" Von Doom was great. :D
 
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Jake007 said:
Exceelent movie cant weight for the seguel and i wonder if they would ever do a one big movie with all the characters in the recent movies like xmen, spiderman, the hulk , fantastic four.

Aside from the insane casting budget, it wouldn't be possible, as Columbia owns the rights to Spider-Man. The others are all Fox properties (as is Daredevil), so in theory it's possible.
 
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MrZoom said:
^ actually Hulk was released by Universal. I guess Marvel likes to spread the wealth around ;)

I stand corrected. I only saw the Hulk once, and I haven't picked up the DVD yet. I will, however, be getting the FF DVD the day it comes out.
 
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I thought the movie was great, not as good as Batman Begins, Spiderman/2, X-Men, X2, but I will be sure to add it to my collection when it comes out on DVD.

I also thought it was perfectly cast, Chris Evans did a great job, and didn't do to shabby in Cellular if I might add.

Jessica Alba did a great job and so did Ioan Gruffudd.

Michael Chiklis, as we know him being on The Shield, which he does a great job in that, and he played is character perfectly.

Julian McMahon, perfect. He was perfect for Dr. Doom. He is great in Nip/Tuck (the very few times that I've watched the show, which I don't watch anymore).

I'd say it worth spending your money on it at the theater just to see it there, but hey if you have a big screen tv or a projector at your house then feel free to wait. As for being a family movie, it had its moments, it had a good message in some parts (The Thing) and then it had other bad moments (on the bridge), not something a 6 or 7 year old needs to be seeing that soon.
 
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Saw it. And in light of some of the bashing F4 is getting from the critics...I was pleasantly surprised.

I think some of the criticisms are valid; to wit:
Johnny Storm's carefree (and, it's hinted, promiscuous) lifestyle; the lack of a strong character arc for Dr. Doom. But the first did not seem to be condoned in the movie - in fact, Johnny is told at least a couple times in the movie that he needs to control himself; and as to the second, the first Spider-Man movie had the same problem with the Green Goblin.

But on balance, what I enjoyed about the movie outweighed what was weak; so I give Fantastic Four a B-
 
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^ Well, I wouldn't discard professional reviews completely. I looked at a few different reviews. The basic thing was, they didn't unanimously trash the film, and they did alert me to content that I, as a Christian, might be sensitive to. So having read the reviews I was prepared for that content. But also, this is a genre of film I tend to like, and I figured it couldn't be much worse than Supergirl, a film that was also widely panned on its initial release, but that I still enjoy despite its flaws. So I went to see F4 on that basis.

EDIT ADD: A quick check of rottentomatoes.com reveals that RT "general audience" users are liking F4 much more than the critics -- 68% from the general audience give it a thumbs up, vs. 26% of critics. Go fig. :scratch:
 
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