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You openly refer to homosexuality and same-sex marriage as evil and yet you wonder why this gay "friend" unfriended you on Facebook? Really? Think about it. If someone on your friends list posted that they believe Christianity or Catholicism is a cult and that all those who follow Jesus are evil hatemongers, would you really want to see that every time you log on?

You have a very strange understanding of what it means to be a person's friend. You do not have to agree with a person's lifestyle in order to be their friend but when you say that their lifestyle makes them "evil" then don't act surprised when they don't want to be friends with you. That's not how friends treat one another, regardless of religion or lifestyle choices.
You don't know the person you are replying to. RileyG has never said that homosexuals should be hated or that all of them are evil. He has only said that homosexual acts are evil. This may come as a shock to some people, but there are people who have same-sex attraction who don't act on it. We should distinguish between people and actions of people. In Christianity we love the sinner but hate the sin. And that goes for all types of sin.
 
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There is sin - then there is sin.
For 6000 years - no one had gay pride or SSM.
The ones who did - were rained down upon with fire [sulfur] and have been a constant reminder through out the Bible over the ages - even St Jude and Paul remarked on S&G and the reason they were destroyed.

Well, we came back around to it - turning black and white into grey and changing the reason they were destroyed to lack of hospitality. NOW if it was hospitality [which the Apostles say it wasnt] - then we would have all been goners a way long time ago.

See what happens when ppl do their own exegesis - or in the words of St Peter - wrest the scriptures to their own damnation.
 
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There is sin - then there is sin.
For 6000 years - no one had gay pride or SSM.
The ones who did - were rained down upon with fire [sulfur] and have been a constant reminder through out the Bible over the ages - even St Jude and Paul remarked on S&G and the reason they were destroyed.

Well, we came back around to it - turning black and white into grey and changing the reason they were destroyed to lack of hospitality. NOW if it was hospitality [which the Apostles say it wasnt] - then we would have all been goners a way long time ago.

See what happens when ppl do their own exegesis - or in the words of St Peter - wrest the scriptures to their own damnation.
I keep forgetting that homosexuality is the ultimate sin. My bad. So let Christians continue to lust and cheat and lie and commit adultery and divorce .. so long as it's all opposite sex related.
 
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I keep forgetting that homosexuality is the ultimate sin. My bad. So let Christians continue to lust and cheat and lie and commit adultery and divorce .. so long as it's all opposite sex related.
Wrong - they are part of the slippery slope i said about.
Adultery, fornication [living together aka free love and abortion or contraception too] - it so happens SSM is probably the final of the worst.
But then comes destroying our last hope - the innocence of children - and that's coming as we speak.
 
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I need to reflect on this...

So anyway, I shared a photo that said "Marriage= One Man, One Woman". A gay man later defriended/blocked me over it and asked me "If I were to attend my brother's wedding if he was married to a man" (Of course not!).

Why is is that politics ALWAYS seems to bring out the worst in people? It's AWFUL. :( Sigh...

Facebook is not a great venue for expressing our ideologies. It's a good venue for posting pictures of all the fun things our families are doing! But I wouldn't recommend it for serious matters.

Don't post stuff like that and you won't have those problems.
 
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Facebook is not a great venue for expressing our ideologies. It's a good venue for posting pictures of all the fun things our families are doing! But I wouldn't recommend it for serious matters.

Don't post stuff like that and you won't have those problems.

Indeed. I have a rather stress-free Facebook existence, because I choose to surround myself with decent people who are not so passive aggressive as to use a venues like Facebook with its obvious limitations for everyone but the original poster to express their political views in soundbite form. We mostly share pictures of our families, we work to help those among us who are sick or otherwise struggling, and we share the absurd or hilarious or challenging bits of our days.
 
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I am a 2nd mom to at least 2 young guys who respect me that i was up front with them.
One in fact - used to post pics - i told him to knock it off he knows how i feel and he hasnt done it since cos he doesnt want to lose me.

I dont hide it - but i also show love and i was there for them in a heart beat without accepting it.

ETA - i see you werent talking to me. But put my 2 cents in about how i am.

I would suggest you read my comment again and see where you went wrong. One, unless they are posting the pictures directly to your profile or are tagging you in those pictures, I can only view your demanding that they cease posting pictures to be very disrespectful and not an indicator of a true friend. Showing love and respect, on the other hand, is an indicator of true friendship.

But to tell someone that their lifestyle is evil (and thus that they are evil) is not respectful in any way to your friendship with that person. There is really no two ways around that. You either respect your friends enough to not shove your opposing beliefs in their face or you don't.

The fact that you are a mother of any sort is irrelevant to how one should treat their friends.

You don't know the person you are replying to. RileyG has never said that homosexuals should be hated or that all of them are evil. He has only said that homosexual acts are evil. This may come as a shock to some people, but there are people who have same-sex attraction who don't act on it. We should distinguish between people and actions of people. In Christianity we love the sinner but hate the sin. And that goes for all types of sin.

I never claimed that RileyG said that homosexuals deserve to be hated and to insinuate otherwise is dishonest on your part. I never even mentioned the word hate in my comment. In fact, my comment had more to do with friendship than it did homosexuality and if you look at the comment of RileyG's that I quoted, you will see that they very clearly indicated their belief that homosexuality is evil.

If you knowingly do evil things then it stands to reason that you are an evil person and any claim to the contrary is a gross contradiction. One cannot perform evil without being evil.

You can claim to love a person with your Christian heart all you want, but don't be surprised when that person does not want to be friends with you when you do not respect them.

So you see, I do not have to know RileyG in order to say what I said because I was not responding to the person, but rather the comment. I would appreciate it if in the future you refrain from attempting to put words in my mouth. I will tolerate a lot of things from a lot of people, but dishonesty is not one of them. Thank you.
 
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I would suggest you read my comment again and see where you went wrong. One, unless they are posting the pictures directly to your profile or are tagging you in those pictures, I can only view your demanding that they cease posting pictures to be very disrespectful and not an indicator of a true friend. Showing love and respect, on the other hand, is an indicator of true friendship.

But to tell someone that their lifestyle is evil (and thus that they are evil) is not respectful in any way to your friendship with that person. There is really no two ways around that. You either respect your friends enough to not shove your opposing beliefs in their face or you don't.

The fact that you are a mother of any sort is irrelevant to how one should treat their friends.
He has full option of removing me. I knew both since 5th grade..
And you will not tell me how to behave with ppl i've known a while - and who know how i feel.

You dont even know what pics im talking about - so you are assuming a whole lot.
And no - unlike trying to win a secular popularity contest - the world shoves down our throats - i love them more than those who applaud them.
I love their souls and want them to have true happiness with the Lord and not on this earth.

It's a very serious lack of compassion to ignore souls in danger. I wouldnt let a baby crawl out into a highway - i'd stop them. But the world demands we let them 'have it their way' after all - its what they want.

I really tire of being told im the one who doesnt love. The ones who pretend souls and the after life is inconsequential [which is eternity and not some number of days] - are the ones who lack true love.
 
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When has society been ok with murder, poverty, or child sex abuse? You don't see Facebook and the media celebrating child molestation or murder, but we DO hear it celebrating same-sex "marriage." Just what is your point? We should let people suffering with same-sex attraction live under the delusion that they're "married" because everyone else sins in different ways??

Murder, tyranny, poverty, child sex abuse ...
 
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For all the protestations about tolerance and being open and hip, it's not cool that you're criticizing another poster for not being s true friend!? You don't know the poster well enough and "who are you to judge?" ;);):D

I would suggest you read my comment again and see where you went wrong. One, unless they are posting the pictures directly to your profile or are tagging you in those pictures, I can only view your demanding that they cease posting pictures to be very disrespectful and not an indicator of a true friend. Showing love and respect, on the other hand, is an indicator of true friendship.

But to tell someone that their lifestyle is evil (and thus that they are evil) is not respectful in any way to your friendship with that person. There is really no two ways around that. You either respect your friends enough to not shove your opposing beliefs in their face or you don't.

The fact that you are a mother of any sort is irrelevant to how one should treat their friends.



I never claimed that RileyG said that homosexuals deserve to be hated and to insinuate otherwise is dishonest on your part. I never even mentioned the word hate in my comment. In fact, my comment had more to do with friendship than it did homosexuality and if you look at the comment of RileyG's that I quoted, you will see that they very clearly indicated their belief that homosexuality is evil.

If you knowingly do evil things then it stands to reason that you are an evil person and any claim to the contrary is a gross contradiction. One cannot perform evil without being evil.

You can claim to love a person with your Christian heart all you want, but don't be surprised when that person does not want to be friends with you when you do not respect them.

So you see, I do not have to know RileyG in order to say what I said because I was not responding to the person, but rather the comment. I would appreciate it if in the future you refrain from attempting to put words in my mouth. I will tolerate a lot of things from a lot of people, but dishonesty is not one of them. Thank you.
 
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Murder, tyranny, poverty, child sex abuse ...

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a6.htm

You shall not commit adultery.113

You have heard that it was said, "You shall not commit adultery." But I say to you that every one who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.114

* I. "MALE AND FEMALE HE CREATED THEM . . ."

2331 "God is love and in himself he lives a mystery of personal loving communion. Creating the human race in his own image . . .. God inscribed in the humanity of man and woman the vocation, and thus the capacity and responsibility, of love and communion."115

"God created man in his own image . . . male and female he created them";116 He blessed them and said, "Be fruitful and multiply"; 117 "When God created man, he made him in the likeness of God. Male and female he created them, and he blessed them and named them Man when they were created."118

2332 Sexuality affects all aspects of the human person in the unity of his body and soul. It especially concerns affectivity, the capacity to love and to procreate, and in a more general way the aptitude for forming bonds of communion with others.

2333 Everyone, man and woman, should acknowledge and accept his sexual identity. Physical, moral, and spiritual difference and complementarity are oriented toward the goods of marriage and the flourishing of family life. The harmony of the couple and of society depends in part on the way in which the complementarity, needs, and mutual support between the sexes are lived out.

2334 "In creating men 'male and female,' God gives man and woman an equal personal dignity."119 "Man is a person, man and woman equally so, since both were created in the image and likeness of the personal God."120

2335 Each of the two sexes is an image of the power and tenderness of God, with equal dignity though in a different way. The union of man and woman in marriage is a way of imitating in the flesh the Creator's generosity and fecundity: "Therefore a man leaves his father and his mother and cleaves to his wife, and they become one flesh."121 All human generations proceed from this union.122

2336 Jesus came to restore creation to the purity of its origins. In the Sermon on the Mount, he interprets God's plan strictly: "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall not commit adultery.' But I say to you that every one who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart."123 What God has joined together, let not man put asunder.124

The tradition of the Church has understood the sixth commandment as encompassing the whole of human sexuality.
 
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He has full option of removing me. I knew both since 5th grade..
And you will not tell me how to behave with ppl i've known a while - and who know how i feel.

You dont even know what pics im talking about - so you are assuming a whole lot.
And no - unlike trying to win a secular popularity contest - the world shoves down our throats - i love them more than those who applaud them.
I love their souls and want them to have true happiness with the Lord and not on this earth.

It's a very serious lack of compassion to ignore souls in danger. I wouldnt let a baby crawl out into a highway - i'd stop them. But the world demands we let them 'have it their way' after all - its what they want.

I really tire of being told im the one who doesnt love. The ones who pretend souls and the after life is inconsequential [which is eternity and not some number of days] - are the ones who lack true love.

You appear to be purposely taking what I said personally in some vain attempt to make it look as if I've insulted you when I've done no such thing. I made no such assumptions which you would be able to very clearly see if you had actually read my reply to you rather than debasing yourself to a knee-jerk, emotional reaction. You replied to a comment that was never directed at you to begin with and then you get upset when I respond to you.

Take a very close look at what I said concerning said pictures. A very close look. You will see that there were no assumptions made on my part. I also in no way claimed to know how you feel about anything. That is something else that you will not find in my original reply to you. My reply only spoke of the nature of friendship. Not the nature of your friendship.

You say that you love them more than those who would "applaud them". The only person here making any assumptions about other peoples' feelings is you. If you are incapable of responding to me in a mature, civil manner then don't bother to do so at all. I did not attack you no matter how much you try to pretend as if I did.


For all the protestations about tolerance and being open and hip, it's not cool that you're criticizing another poster for not being s true friend!? You don't know the poster well enough and "who are you to judge?" ;);):D

When did I say anything about tolerance? I was speaking of friendship and the importance of respect to maintaining a friendship. I never criticized her for not being a true friend. In fact, one of my comments said just the opposite. That can be clearly seen if you actually chose to read what I said and the response in which it was directed at.

I do not need to know the poster because I am not responding to the poster. I am responding to the post.
 
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For all the protestations about tolerance and being open and hip, it's not cool that you're criticizing another poster for not being s true friend!? You don't know the poster well enough and "who are you to judge?" ;);):D
It must be difficult to 'shut folks out' who wish to help.
I imagine if anyone disagrees - they get the door slammed in their face.
But my friends and I do understand one another.
I cant stop ppl - but i will help them see the dangers.
 
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You appear to be purposely taking what I said personally in some vain attempt to make it look as if I've insulted you when I've done no such thing. I made no such assumptions which you would be able to very clearly see if you had actually read my reply to you rather than debasing yourself to a knee-jerk, emotional reaction. You replied to a comment that was never directed at you to begin with and then you get upset when I respond to you.

Take a very close look at what I said concerning said pictures. A very close look. You will see that there were no assumptions made on my part. I also in no way claimed to know how you feel about anything. That is something else that you will not find in my original reply to you. My reply only spoke of the nature of friendship. Not the nature of your friendship.

You say that you love them more than those who would "applaud them". The only person here making any assumptions about other peoples' feelings is you. If you are incapable of responding to me in a mature, civil manner then don't bother to do so at all. I did not attack you no matter how much you try to pretend as if I did.




When did I say anything about tolerance? I was speaking of friendship and the importance of respect to maintaining a friendship. I never criticized her for not being a true friend. In fact, one of my comments said just the opposite. That can be clearly seen if you actually chose to read what I said and the response in which it was directed at.

I do not need to know the poster because I am not responding to the poster. I am responding to the post.
Because this was not at all a judgment call?
I can only view your demanding that they cease posting pictures to be very disrespectful and not an indicator of a true friend.
You didnt assume:
1) I am Demanding
2) I am disrespectful.
3) I'm not a good friend.
??

It's very clear what you were suggesting. I am not lost on being insulted.

ETA - This was directly about me - because i spoke of not wanting the pics posted - so it was not an indirect nor spoken in general context.
 
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Your blatant dishonesty is counterproductive to any potential discussion. If you are going to quote me then I would appreciate that you quote me in entirety and not leave out certain parts as a way to paint me in a negative light.

"One, unless they are posting the pictures directly to your profile or are tagging you in those pictures, I can only view your demanding that they cease posting pictures to be very disrespectful and not an indicator of a true friend."

There is the part of my comment that you so conveniently left out. Telling a friend what you will and will not allow them to post on their own profile is not indicative of a true friend and is very disrespectful of said friend. If that person is posting these pictures to your profile or is tagging you in them, then this is disrespectful on their part.

No, I never made an assumption about anyone or anything. This is a clear case of reading only what you want to read and then misinterpreting what was actually said. I would ask you to cease your dishonesty and slander as it very much goes against the forum rules. In the future, if you are going to quote me, then use the actual quoting option so that you will be unable to corrupt my posts and edit them in order to suit your own agenda.
Every picture is on my timeline.
And frankly i dont want to see the pics he was posting.
He understood and stopped and he apologized...there was no call for it.
I treat him like my own son - so he fully respects me and still calls me his second mom forever.

So how about you not bothering to profess what type of friend i am based on your opinions of our relationship.
 
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Does it bother ppl if i have a very close and open relationship with someone and there is a real love between us enough that we are quite comfortable with one another to be honest..?

ETA - he knew my religious beliefs - he knew i was orthodox - but i was one of the first he came to...because in spite of it he knew i cared about him.
 
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