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Examining the Save 3ABN Website

Discussion in 'Traditional Adventists' started by DarylFawcett, Feb 14, 2007.

  1. honorthesabbath

    honorthesabbath Senior Veteran

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    Any time the American concept of INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty is violated--YES--it IS my business as it should be for all of us.

    It's funny how everyone wants that rule to apply to themselves but not their neighbors.
     
  2. Cliff2

    Cliff2 Well-Known Member

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    No, I have never been abused sexually or otherwise. So I do not know what it is like at all and can't even begin to understand what it is like.

    But that does not mean to say that I have to sit here and take what you are dishing out either.

    If all these victims have all been abused by Tommy S. and not one of them will take it to the next step then what can I do about it. Some victim has to be brave enough to take it to the next step.

    Until that happans then no matter how loud you or anyone else screems nothing will be done.

    Can you understand that?
     
  3. Cliff2

    Cliff2 Well-Known Member

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    All these claims against Tommy S. have been going on now for years. When is someone going to finally put up?
     
  4. dclem

    dclem Member

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    I don't need to prove anything to you. I know it happened because I was there. You can believe it or not, that's your decision. You have no right, however, to tell me to keep quiet.
     
  5. dclem

    dclem Member

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    Take what I'm dishing out? How does what I'm saying affect you? Are you Tommy? If not, it has nothing to do with you.
    Did you not read what I posted previously? At least three other victims HAVE tried to take action, and Tommy managed to lie his way out of it every time. He's a master manipulator.

    I have an email that Tommy sent to me admitting that he did wrong. Those are HIS words, not mine.

    I'm not sitting around and being quiet anymore. The Sheltons and all their defenders may as well accept that fact.
     
  6. Cliff2

    Cliff2 Well-Known Member

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    You brought it up, I did not so therefore you play with fire and you will get burnt.

    So if you are not a victim then by your reasoning you should not have anything to do with it now.

    The facts are this.

    Tommy S has not been charged. If he is guilty then have him charged.

    If that is done then we may have some closure on the case.
     
  7. dclem

    dclem Member

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    I AM a victim. I did not bring anything up. I was responding to other posts.

    If the statutes ever allow it, I WILL bring charges against Tommy.

    Closure? Why do you need closure? How does this affect you?

    Keep talking if you want me to keep talking. I'm tired of people running their mouths while hiding behind a screen name. Be a man and tell us why you're so interested in this.
     
  8. Jimlarmore

    Jimlarmore Senior Veteran

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    Duane,
    I'm not now nor have I ever been anymous on this issue. You have not been totaly honest in your presentation of the facts on these issues either. Your credibility as a victim goes down considerably when after all these years you intentionally leave out critical information and allow us to believe you were a child when this happened.

    To my way of thinking if you are willing to lie on one part of this why should I believe you on any of it? Besides at this point 3abn has been taken over by a new president and Tommy Shelton is no longer in the picture there that I can tell either.

    God Bless
    Jim Larmore
     
  9. dclem

    dclem Member

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    At NO time did I say I was a child when it happened, nor did I "intentionally leave out critical information." Everything is in my statement on save-3abn.com. It's not my fault people can't read.

    I have never lied, Jim. Get your facts straight before you make accusations against me. I don't appreciate being called a liar.

    I think I can see why you are a FORMER investigator. You certainly don't check your facts very well.
     
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