Ex-Con Hovind released from the pokey.

[Jan Volkes]

Money to be made for Kenny by telling the choir what they want to hear, but I highly doubt he comes near what Palin can pull in.

He's a jailbird now so they will all flock to hear him, he's in the big time now and he will be promoted coast to coast.

 

[outsidethecamp]

You don't know the facts of the law. Employees and employers are both required to pay FICA taxes. The employee pays 6.2% for social security, and the employer also pays 6.2%. [and similarly 1.45% for medicare] Hovind did not do that, so he was charged and correctly convicted of failure to pay these taxes.

Nope, wrong again. He treated them as independent contractors.

 

[bhsmte]

Nope, wrong again. He treated them as independent contractors.

If he notified the IRS of this, there shouldn't have been a problem.

 

[outsidethecamp]

A federal judge, however, acquitted Kent Hovind on Monday of the March conviction for contempt of court and on Tuesday dismissed mail fraud and conspiracy charges in connection with court filings on land seized by the federal government in his case.

http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/good-news-for-convicted-creation-evangelist/

He was paying people as "missionaries".

 

[Jan Volkes]

Nope, wrong again. He treated them as independent contractors.

Did he inform anyone else that they were independent contractors?

 

[bhsmte]

Nope, wrong again. He treated them as independent contractors.

If Hovind followed all the laws and did nothing wrong, why wasn't his attorney able to point this out?

 

[Jan Volkes]

He was paying people as "missionaries".

Creationism was sent from heaven for Kent to use as he saw fit, he won't need to bother with any of that nonsense any more because he will be making a fortune, although even the extremely rich can be greedy, is Kent greedy? does he serve god or mammon? mammon I would say because we have all seen his true colours, go Kent.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Nope, wrong again. He treated them as independent contractors.

Take it up with the judge.

 

[Jan Volkes]

If Hovind followed all the laws and did nothing wrong, why wasn't his attorney able to point this out?

Sounds like a conspiracy against creationism to me, what else could it be? Dr Dino a thief? no way.

 

[RickG]

The idea that science is more self-correcting than any other area including politics is debatable. As others have noted often science correct itself one funnel at a time.

So you still continue to avoid my direct questions and obfuscate on ridiculous stuff like politics. The only funeral is your claim concerning science.

The fact is, most frauds concerning science have not only been by non-science people, but all of them have been discovered, rooted-out and exposed by the scientific community, not anti-science creationists.

 

[RickG]

Heres your task....read your quote a few times ad think!!!!

You essentially are saying "show me a fraud that has not been discovered and outed as fraud that has not been corrected.

The circularity in that reasoning is breath taking. How can anyone give a citation for something not observed and corrected since no one publishes a correction for something not observed?????

as for your claim of occasional and quickly. good night man go research your claims. every few months there are reports of more and more and more and some have taken YEARS to discover.

and this is not some claim that scientists are inherently more fraudulent than the general public. This is more recognizing they are as human as the rest of people who are allured by cash and bias. The peer review system itself is corrupted by greed. Same greed that corrupted Hovind. He who publishes gets more stature. He/she who gets more stature gets more grants. increase in salaries and down the line tenure. The source you claimed showed main stream science fraud is the one exhibiting fraud. Still waiting.

it pays green to get published.

No, you need to show scientific fraud by mainstream science that has been exposed by non-mainstream science or non-science entities.

 

[Smidlee]

So you still continue to avoid my direct questions and obfuscate on ridiculous stuff like politics. The only funeral is your claim concerning science.

The fact is, most frauds concerning science have not only been by non-science people, but all of them have been discovered, rooted-out and exposed by the scientific community, not anti-science creationists.

What is non-science people? Did not the media expose Bill Cosby? There is nothing new here. People expose other people fraud and you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure that out. Is "Science people " some kind of cult?

Everyone is born a scientist which can expose fraud. Why do evolutionist think that have a monopoly on science and excuse anyone who disagree with them as anti-science. As a creationist I'm anti-nonsense no matter what you call it.

 

[bhsmte]

What is non-science people? Did not the media expose Bill Cosby? There is nothing new here. People expose other people fraud and you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure that out. Is "Science people " some kind of cult?

Cosby's own choice of actions are what exposed Bill Cosby. Maybe he expected all those women to remain intimidated by him and remain silent, but he was wrong if he thought that.

What exposes scientific fraud would be scientific evidence of the same. Have any?

 

[Smidlee]

Cosby's own choice of actions are what exposed Bill Cosby. Maybe he expected all those women to remain intimidated by him and remain silent, but he was wrong if he thought that.

What exposes scientific fraud would be scientific evidence of the same. Have any?

How do you find out about Cosby? I find out through the media. That how the average person finds out about fraud.
All known fraud is reported by human beings.

 

[bhsmte]

How do you find out about Cosby? I find out through the media. That how the average person finds out about fraud.
All known fraud is reported by human beings.

The media is a tool to find things out, quicker. The media did not create or cause Cosby's actions and or his alleged victims to spill the beans.

Even if the media didn't exist and the accusations about Cosby were true, they would still be true without the media, correct?

 

[Smidlee]

The media is a tool to find things out, quicker. The media did not create or cause Cosby's actions and or his alleged victims to spill the beans.

Even if the media didn't exist and the accusations about Cosby were true, they would still be true without the media, correct?

Hello? That's a no brainer.

 

[bhsmte]

Hello? That's a no brainer.

Yes, some things would fall into the; no brainer category.

 

[joshua 1 9]

That would be a good reality tv show.

Do we really need more shows out there like the Big Bang?

 

[Jan Volkes]

Do we really need more shows out there like the Big Bang?

Without a doubt, intelligence is now needed more than ever in the US, there are far too many knuckle dragging TV shows in the US as it is, take a look and see the kinds of films coming out of the US as we speak, comic book hero's and fantasy films that's all there is, Americans live in a dream world in more ways than one.

 

[bhsmte]

Do we really need more shows out there like the Big Bang?

What the United States needs is more general knowledge about science. We don't do real well in that department compared to other advanced countries.