Evolution's Debt to Christianity

[Dennis12]

Some solid and easy to understand reasons not to believe Evolution.
(Comments based on the video content are welcome.)

 

[Brightmoon]

I watched the first minute or so . Then the pseudoscience got on my nerves. If you’re going to complain about evolution the least you could do is get it correct. Mutations that happen to body cells only affect that one organism. Mutations that happen to germ cells affect offspring and whether or not they’re fit depends on the environment! A hairless polar bear would die from the cold and a hairy naked mole rat would suffer with skin infections. Neither hairlessness or having fur is a problem except in the wrong environment

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

Creation was a straight miracle that can't be explained by science. Evolution is a process given by those who refuse to believe in the existence of God, and that He is powerful enough to create a whole universe out of nothing in six days.

 

[Dennis12]

I watched the first minute or so . Then the pseudoscience got on my nerves. If you’re going to complain about evolution the least you could do is get it correct. Mutations that happen to body cells only affect that one organism. Mutations that happen to germ cells affect offspring and whether or not they’re fit depends on the environment! A hairless polar bear would die from the cold and a hairy naked mole rat would suffer with skin infections. Neither hairlessness or having fur is a problem except in the wrong environment

Thank you for the minute.

 

[Brightmoon]

You’re welcome. Just FYI Creationists have their own versions of evolution which the scientific community does not use nor do they consider the creationist versions to be accurate. Creationists refute THEIR pseudoscience versions not the real version.

 

[Brightmoon]

Creation was a straight miracle that can't be explained by science. Evolution is a process given by those who refuse to believe in the existence of God, and that He is powerful enough to create a whole universe out of nothing in six days.

. Anyone who goes directly to atheism/theism when discussing a scientific theory doesn’t understand even basic middle school science . Science doesn’t deal with supernatural phenomena at all

 

[mothcorrupteth]

Some solid and easy to understand reasons not to believe Evolution.
(Comments based on the video content are welcome.)

Not so much pseudoscientific as simple-thinking. Many of the objections in the video would be rendered moot for any person who was deeply read in contemporary evolutionary theory.

 

[lismore]

I'm glad we've got persons educated in 'contemporary evolutionary theory' with us then

 

[Brightmoon]

I'm glad we've got persons educated in 'contemporary evolutionary theory' with us then

. Oh sure! Here’s a brief YouTube video explaining a mistaken creationist idea of evolution versus what scientists actually know. Due to a glitch I can’t link but here’s a photo of the video with the title and the maker

Tony Reed has about 90 videos on different subjects explaining what scientists know versus the inaccurate pseudoscience nonsense creationists spew.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

. Anyone who goes directly to atheism/theism when discussing a scientific theory doesn’t understand even basic middle school science . Science doesn’t deal with supernatural phenomena at all

Creation is not based on science or supernatural phenomena. Only God knows how creation happened, because He was the only Person there.

 

[lismore]

Creation is not based on science or supernatural phenomena. Only God knows how creation happened, because He was the only Person there.

Right Oscarr. So we either take God's word on it, from God, who was there. Or take the shifting sands of opinion from Scientists where weren't there, who are biased and whose opinions seem to change like shifting sands.

One hundred years from now if the Lord tarries Genesis 1 will be Genesis 1 still, the 'scientific' account of origins will have changed beyond all recognition.

God Bless

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

Right Oscarr. So we either take God's word on it, from God, who was there. Or take the shifting sands of opinion from Scientists where weren't there, who are biased and whose opinions seem to change like shifting sands.

One hundred years from now if the Lord tarries Genesis 1 will be Genesis 1 still, the 'scientific' account of origins will have changed beyond all recognition.

God Bless

Job 38 is a good answer for those who think they know everything about how the earth was formed.

 

[Brightmoon]

Creation is not based on science or supernatural phenomena. Only God knows how creation happened, because He was the only Person there.

the universe within a few 100 million years after the Big Bang is observable . The Big Bang itself is not observable because the universe is too hot and too dense at that point ,to see through. . When you look out into space you can see back in time because light takes time to travel through space. It takes 8 minutes for light to get to earth from the sun . You see the sun as it was and where it was 8 minutes ago . We can see back just over 13billion years by looking out into space . So we know what the universe looked like then . Stars were odd, they didn’t have elements above iron in them . Modern stars have all 92 natural elements

 

[Brightmoon]

Job 38 is a good answer for those who think they know everything about how the earth was formed.

Scientists don’t know everything but they know a lot about how Earth was formed . Very briefly, 2 smaller protoplanets smashed into each other , melted each other and formed the earth and the moon from debris . You can google the Big Splat if you want details

 

[Brightmoon]

I think it would shock the average laymen once they realize just how much scientists do know .

 

[Silmarien]

Creation was a straight miracle that can't be explained by science. Evolution is a process given by those who refuse to believe in the existence of God, and that He is powerful enough to create a whole universe out of nothing in six days.

Of course God could have created a whole universe out of nothing in six days. The question is whether he did in fact do so, and the evidence would suggest otherwise.

And of course Creation cannot be explained by science, but the origin of species can be.

I think it would shock the average laymen once they realize just how much scientists do know .

About cosmology or in general? As a former philosophy student, I am regularly shocked by the sorts of things scientists say when they leave their field of expertise and decide that they're qualified to talk about philosophy or theology. The super specialization is also really causing problems, I think.

 

[Chesterton]

As a former philosophy student, I am regularly shocked by the sorts of things scientists say when they leave their field of expertise and decide that they're qualified to talk about philosophy or theology.

You might be shocked by what they say, but you shouldn't be shocked by why they say it. Ever since Dawkins wrote God Delusion, there's the chance for fame and fortune for any scientist who talks about philosophy or theology, whether they know what they're talking about or not.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

Scientists don’t know everything but they know a lot about how Earth was formed . Very briefly, 2 smaller protoplanets smashed into each other , melted each other and formed the earth and the moon from debris . You can google the Big Splat if you want details

They are just guessing, because there is no empirical data that what is described actually happened that way.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

Of course God could have created a whole universe out of nothing in six days. The question is whether he did in fact do so, and the evidence would suggest otherwise.

And of course Creation cannot be explained by science, but the origin of species can be.



About cosmology or in general? As a former philosophy student, I am regularly shocked by the sorts of things scientists say when they leave their field of expertise and decide that they're qualified to talk about philosophy or theology. The super specialization is also really causing problems, I think.

All these theories, unproven as they are, which makes them just "educated" guesswork, dreamed up by people who are determined to leave God out of the equation. The simple answer is that God created the whole lot through a miracle that cannot be explained by science. Also, theories about the origin of the species is also guesswork dreamed up by Darwin originally, who was found to be mentally unbalanced.

 

[Silmarien]

All these theories, unproven as they are, which makes them just "educated" guesswork, dreamed up by people who are determined to leave God out of the equation. The simple answer is that God created the whole lot through a miracle that cannot be explained by science. Also, theories about the origin of the species is also guesswork dreamed up by Darwin originally, who was found to be mentally unbalanced.

How is that the simple answer? The simplest answer to me seems to be ongoing continuous creation rather than a once-and-for-all style miracle, and that fits perfectly with evolution. I'm not an Intelligent Design theorist, but things like the origin of mitochondria (bacterium eats bacterium, and both survive) intrigue me all the same--only an atheist has to write off divine providence for an evolutionary event as strange as that one.