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Evolution's Brick Wall
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The Leviathan is an image from the old Urgaic, the Phonecians spoke of these sea monsters. The Hebrews borrowed the imagery for dramatic effect on there prophetic Oracle's. In Job there is mention of rousing the Leviathan, which invokes a curse. God responds you will remember the experience and never do it again. It not a dinosaur it's dramatic figurative language indicating a demon or it's parallel in Revelations, the dragon or the devil himself. Its just a literary feature.
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The creation story of Genesis was an invention of the Hebrew priesthood for an Israelite audience. It was written in an enchanted age of ignorance, and they made no claims of divine inspiration. It was "preacher speak" intended for spiritual instruction.
The proof of old earth evolution is in the archeological and geological record.
The proof of old earth evolution is in the archeological and geological record.
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yeshuaslavejeff
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From the content of all your posts in the past and today, you readily believe the lie of urantia,
and you completely deny the truth of the Bible.
tch tch......
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That guy is a clown! Its akin to flat earth teaching.
The Hebrews flood can be explained. In attempting to connect their self important bloodlines back to the Adam of Mesopotamian lore, the Hebrew redactors found it impossible to fill the gap. So, they decided to drown the whole world in its own wickedness. They didn't know that man would grow in scientific understanding and just a little common sense.
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Obviously we all know that there is zero evidence but he just cannot admit it, you can’t help feeling slightly cruel by being entertained by such exchanges.
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Non-believers have abandoned all hope; the fullness and richness of a faithful life is gone; and they’re left only with a dark cloud on the horizon – now what? Nothing. So, why are they even communicating with us here? I’ll tell you why; they’d like to find the riches of the Kingdom of God, but because they’ve already forsaken Him in their hearts all they can do now is rant and rave about science being the answer to everything, and be disrespectful... pitiful to watch.
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Nice awareness of CF science posts.
They somehow have missed Him who is among us, and the dynamic walk they can have with Him in His Word, the Bible. How many verses become Living because of Him.
They must walk by faith, not by the five senses. God makes no exceptions. But once faith is pure the Heavens will Open: Grace at work in and around us.
Until then, like you mention - Nothing. Very stale Bible and life on a dust-composed world.
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Many are not facing up to the conjecture evolution requires.
Things will continue to be repeated until "evolutionists" see their foundation.
Within any Tree of Life illustration - show the sequence of detailed fossils showing morphological changes of one lifeform changing into another lifeform over time - yes historical physical evidence.
At this point there is zero historical strata-based proof evolution ever happened.
Zero.
That puts all modern day evolutionary biological sciences are based on conjecture - no physical historic proof to base said genome, processes of natural selection, ............... upon. The complete geologic past does not support any modern day "proofs" that evolution happened.
Many are side stepping facing up that evolution lacks historic proof. Reiterated because it is true and people seem to want to avoid this major dilemma.
Evolution has hit a wall. Time to face up like I had to in times past.
Things will continue to be repeated until "evolutionists" see their foundation.
Within any Tree of Life illustration - show the sequence of detailed fossils showing morphological changes of one lifeform changing into another lifeform over time - yes historical physical evidence.
At this point there is zero historical strata-based proof evolution ever happened.
Zero.
That puts all modern day evolutionary biological sciences are based on conjecture - no physical historic proof to base said genome, processes of natural selection, ............... upon. The complete geologic past does not support any modern day "proofs" that evolution happened.
Many are side stepping facing up that evolution lacks historic proof. Reiterated because it is true and people seem to want to avoid this major dilemma.
Evolution has hit a wall. Time to face up like I had to in times past.
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We have the bones, fossils, geological formations, radiometric dating and numerous factual observations. You have the speculation and conjecture of ignorant holy men who were writing for the child like minds of bronze age sheep herders. You are in a hostile state of belligerent denial, the cult like rejection of intelligent observations.
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Ok, I thought you might be using the term "mutation" in this sense.
In biology mutations refer to changes in DNA (copying errors) that occur during cellular replication. If such a mutation occurs during the production of reproductive cells, those mutations become part of the offspring's genome. Every organism that reproduces will have offspring with mutations in them. For example, humans are estimated to have about 50 to 100 or so unique mutations compared to their parents.
However, you won't find mutations changing an organism into something completely different (e.g. a different species) in a single generation. If you take human evolution for example, we are thought to share a common ancestor with chimpanzees going back around 5 million or more years. That means it took several hundred thousand generations to go from a chimp-human ancestor to what we are now. There was no single generation steps; it was the accumulation of changes in hundreds of thousands of generations.
What we see in the fossil record are snapshots of organisms that were part of this lineage at different moments in time. In many cases those moments in time are separated by hundreds of thousands or even millions of years; long enough for changes to accumulate.
Transitional fossils are simple fossils that are part of that lineage; fossils that specifically show a change in morphological features in between taxa. And given we have fossils that show just that, by that definition transitional fossils do exist.
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That's right -- and that's why you'll be without excuse if you die outside of Jesus Christ.
You've got God's general revelation (all of creation -- even in its fallen state); God's special revelation (the Bible); and cause-and-effect testimony in the form of:pitabread said:
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If you die without Christ, you truly were a fool.
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