Evolution, why so many believe?

[GREG]

MOD is in the HOUSE....... lets stop attcking and you know who you are. Please stop the finger pointing

 

[troodon]

TROLL ALERT​

 

[wblastyn]

RED FLAG. Oh so you're upset that I'm not the typical Christian who wastes all my posts on telling you how special you are and how I love you and how Jesus loves you?

No, I'm annoyed that you're yet another Creationist giving Christianity a bad name with your ignorance. You don't even know WHAT evolution is and yet here you are telling us it's false.

Oh look, its another troll who buzzes around teh Christian message boards because he thinks he won't get any resistance from a bunch of "nice people".

Er I think you are the troll here, not Jet Black, who in fact contributes a lot to the forums.

 

[Vintersorg]

Dear Lord..you can see by looking at everyone in this forum that people like to debait issues that are not proven. The only good thing about debating is that its fun..thats it. It doesent make us a better human being and in most cases it doesent change our minds about things.

I will make a bet. If anyone can prove the existance of God to me I will join the chruch, give up all my posessions and live a life of serving others. But seeing that no one will every prove that, its a paradox. religion is a crutch. People need something to believe in or they think their life is meaningless.

 

[wblastyn]

Big Ugly Troll Pic

LOL, Everquest!!

 

[Steve_Graham]

in what way is evolution a lie? in what way does evolution say that God did not create us?

It's a lie because the bible (God's word to man) reads that the earth and all things in it were created in 6 days. He then created man of his own image and so forth. So there, if you believe in the God of the Bible, then you know evolution is a lie from satan.

 

[wblastyn]

I will make a bet. If anyone can prove the existance of God to me I will join the chruch, give up all my posessions and live a life of serving others. But seeing that no one will every prove that, its a paradox. religion is a crutch. People need something to believe in or they think their life is meaningless.

We believein God throuh faith and personal experience, it isn't something we can "prove" to you. Science cannot touch the supernatural, so it's perfectly valid to believe in God through faith.

 

[wblastyn]

It's a lie because the bible (God's word to man) reads that the earth and all things in it were created in 6 days. He then created man of his own image and so forth. So there, if you believe in the God of the Bible, then you know evolution is a lie from satan.

The Bible says a lot of things, it doesn't mean it is all literal.

Do you also believe in magical fire breathing sea serpents, flat earth, that "all the world" was taxed by the Romans, etc?

 

[Jet Black]

Dear Lord..you can see by looking at everyone in this forum that people like to debait issues that are not proven. The only good thing about debating is that its fun..thats it. It doesent make us a better human being and in most cases it doesent change our minds about things.

I will make a bet. If anyone can prove the existance of God to me I will join the chruch, give up all my posessions and live a life of serving others. But seeing that no one will every prove that, its a paradox. religion is a crutch. People need something to believe in or they think their life is meaningless.

rather off topic....

 

[troodon]

He then created man of his own image and so forth.

So God is a physical entity?

So there, if you believe in the God of the Bible, then you know evolution is a lie from satan.

I believe in the God of the Bible and I know evolution is sound science whereas young earth creationism is a social disease that feeds off of peoples' scientific illiteracy.

 

[GREG]

2nd time

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[Jet Black]

It's a lie because the bible (God's word to man) reads that the earth and all things in it were created in 6 days. He then created man of his own image and so forth. So there, if you believe in the God of the Bible, then you know evolution is a lie from satan.

I thought everything was created in a day though.... have you read Genesis 2?

 

[Steve_Graham]

I believe God created life via Evolution. I think it makes God much more awesome in that he uses natural laws to work rather than zapping everything into existance like a magical sky fairy.

Then you are not a true Christian who believes in the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob.

 

[Arikay]

Maybe that was not ment to be taken literally.

Satan is one powerfull man. Evolution comes from lots of evidence, evidence that must have been created. Apparently, satan can now create things, satan is god.

It's a lie because the bible (God's word to man) reads that the earth and all things in it were created in 6 days. He then created man of his own image and so forth. So there, if you believe in the God of the Bible, then you know evolution is a lie from satan.

 

[GREG]

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[troodon]

Then you are not a true Christian who believes in the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob.

Ouch, and with a MOD in the house...

 

[Pete Harcoff]

One reason someone might not believe in evolution is because they know what TRUE science is. Science is not cooking up some wild idea and saying "the fossil record will support it". Science is not taking one of these wild ideas that suits you personally and then going to to purposely try to find evidence for it. Science is finding evidence before you even know its evidence and then making ideas based on that.

You should read up on the history of evolution. The theory of evolution arose becaue of the evidence, not in spite of it. In fact, what you are describing is creationism, not evolution.

NO MECHNISM There has been no way for evolution to occur.

Reproduction, mutation, selection, genetic drift, etc... nope, no way at all.

Single cell organisms, reptiles, etc do not have the genetic coding in their DNA to make a mammal.

Except they do have genetic coding in their DNA inherited from their ancestors.

The common domesticated cat does not have the genetic coding to make a horse, etc.

Good. Because that would be a blow to evolutionary theory if it did.

In order for evolution,to occur at any magnitude, there would have to be a method for nature to add constructive and functional genetic coding to the DNA of an organism.

There is. Mutation of the DNA that occurs during reproduction.

I've only heard that adaptation and mutation could have caused it. Well lets look at those. (feel free to mention additional methods if they exist)

Mutation modifies the genetic code (either by adding, changing or removing DNA). Whether those mutations are functional or constructive is a result of the environment.

What are some examples of ADAPTATION? Well, an animal shedding its hair/fur/coat when moving into a warmer climate. An animal storing more body fat when moving into a colder climate. There are alots of examples of adaptation (feel free to add more PROVEN adaptation that occurs today).

You seem to be confusing adaption (via reproduction and selection) and acclimatization.

But what do these adaptations do? How do they occur? How could they cause evolution?

Adaptations don't cause evolution. They are the result of evolution.

Well in every case of adaptation I've studied, horomones and negative feedback have been the cause of adaptation. Adaptation involves no additions to the genetic code of an organism. Any animal or human that "adapts" to a situation, climate, etc, already has the ability to do so in their genetic coding. It involves no change of DNA to "adapt".

Therefore adaptation does not cause evolution.

See above.

Now the other is MUTATION. Mutation does involve the change of DNA or genetic coding. What are some examples of mutation? Well, breast cancer, prostate cancer, skin cancer, etc.

Here are some other examples. And some others.

Todate, in my studies I have not come across one beneficial form of mutation.

Then you need to look harder. Check the links above.

In 100% of the cases I've seen, mutation has been either nuetral, as in the poor creature developed a growth on its neck but it didn't directly die from it, or, the mutation has completely killed the organism.

See links.

Therefore, most people have a hard time believing breast cancer eventually turned an ameboid into a hump back whale. Remember, somewhere down the line, every single thing about the hump back whale that is not identical to the ameboid, had to be added into the genetic code of the lesser organism. Did cancer do that? I doubt it, no matter how long it had.

Strawman argument. Nobody believes breast cancer turns amoebas into whales.

 

[GREG]

Last chance or this room is closed.......

 

[Arikay]

I think you should go read the rules, as unless they have changed, its against the rules to attack another christians beliefs and call them non christian.

Then you are not a true Christian who believes in the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob.

 

[Steve_Graham]

The Bible says a lot of things, it doesn't mean it is all literal.

Do you also believe in magical fire breathing sea serpents, flat earth, that "all the world" was taxed by the Romans, etc?

Yes the bible is to be taken literal.