Evolution vs. Creationism

[Arikay]

Around when did mankind stop living 800 or 900 years?

at the tail end of an age when mankind lived seven, eight and nine hundred years that little bit ain't gonna have much bearing.

 

[Pilgrim 33]

It started going down after The Flood.

 

[Arikay]

And when was that?

 

[Pilgrim 33]

Going by Jewish geneological records from Adam to Jesus somewhere about 4500 years ago--or, about 1500 or 1600 years after Adam was created..

 

[Pilgrim 33]

The problem with reconciling The Gap period as the timeframe for evolution is that everything God does is perfect therefore evolution would have been unnecessary plus, after Satan's fall which damaged the very fabric of creation beyond repair, then everything would be degenerating not progressing toward perfection as humanism's evolution and its counterparts would espouse, and that leaves the Nephilim.

 

[Arikay]

When did satan fall?

 

[Mistermystery]

Going by Jewish geneological records from Adam to Jesus somewhere about 4500 years ago--or, about 1500 or 1600 years after Adam was created..

Hah, that's even beter then my normal meteor crater challange.

 

[Pilgrim 33]

yes, it is a lovely pearl.

 

[Mistermystery]

Thanks I geuss. Tell me, do you believe that teh flood was resposible for all the layers/strata in the Earth?

 

[Pilgrim 33]

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[Herman Hedning]

It is based on the evidence for changing light-speed as presented in The Atomic Constants, Light and Time, Creation and Catastrophe, and a major scientific paper that is currently undergoing review.

That's nice. Who are doing the review?

Geologically, this event dates from the infra-Cambrian around 600 million years ago atomically. This converts to 3536 BC when the atomic clock is corrected for light-speed variation.

Amazing! Around 600 million years ago converts to exactly 3536 BCE. Do I smell some ad-hoeckery here?

The Paleozoic Era that followed saw rising land-forms, and a deposition around the edge of the super-continent. <Snip> This event dates around 230 million atomic years ago, or 3301 BC on a light-speed correction, the time of the Babel crisis.

So, the palaeozoic era lasted all of 235 years, did it? And with people present all the time?

The break-up of this planet occurred sometime immediately prior to 65 million years ago atomically, or 3005 BC on the light-speed correction. A series of impacts on these bodies on other planets and moons in the solar system has been noted. On earth the massive series of impacts closed the Mesozoic Era. The dinosaurs were decimated.

The era of the dinosaurs lasted less than 300 years? And the extinction event occured in exactly 3305 BCE? Don't we have written records from that time? What do they say?

I Can't read any more of this - please tell me it is written in jest.

 

[Pilgrim 33]

Thank you, indeed, it is a lovely pearl.

 

[Jet Black]

It is based on the evidence for changing light-speed as presented in The Atomic Constants, Light and Time, Creation and Catastrophe, and a major scientific paper that is currently undergoing review.

review by who? and who is writing it?

After creation week, the interior of the earth began to heat up due to the rapid decay of short half-life radioactive elements as a result of high light-speed values. This radioactive heating drove the water out of the minerals in the mantle towards the earth's surface. Through pores in the crust, this water came to the surface as springs and geysers and watered the ground. Indeed, the Septuagint (LXX) translation of Genesis 2:6 says that the "fountains" sprang up from the ground and watered the earth. In the ocean, this continuing water supply is called "the fountains of the deep" in the Bible.

interesting. so if the speed of light were much higher, then what happened to all the optical wavelengths? remember the relationship between c and lambda. Where is the evidence of this? do we see adjusted radioactive decay of elements in distant stars for example? how abut effects on lamb shift, the charge on an electron and so on?

can't be bothered with the rest.

 

[Mistermystery]

1) The paper talks about light speed diffrences without backing it up. This is simply a lie, there has not been found a single shred of evidence for any change.

2) You also imply by saying that physical constants have been assumed constant over billions of years (esp with radioactive dating techniques). While you've got this actually reversed: The constancy of constants is a conclusion, not an assumption. Go here http://www.spacedaily.com/news/cosmology-04i.html and here http://www.nature.com/news/2003/030428/full/030428-20.html Because your claim is again baseless.

3) http://authors.elsevier.com/SampleCopy/235/S1367-9120(99)00042-5 Olivine needs great preasures and great amounts of energy. Unlike your paper suggests this is no problem for the formation of the Earth.

4) There are numerous falsehoods in the article as a whole to which I don't have the time or puff to get into. I urge you to re-study your paper with some other sources to see if they can be falsified.. because they can.

blah blah blah, comets happening 3000 years ago.

That is unpossible with all the thermo-kinetic energy released by the comets. I've made numerous threads about it, you can read one here allthough the creationists I argued against used slightly diffrent numbers, you willg et the idea... if you want me to elaborate on this please do so.


One more thing. Ir the rridium layer was made 5000 years ago, then how do you account for more then 16 meters per year of sediment? Edit: could someone check my numbers on this? I think I made an error here.

 

[Mistermystery]

Thank you, indeed, it is a lovely pearl.

READ his post. your post needs clearification, he merely asks for it, and I fully endorse his questions. I would like the same questions because they are very vaguely explained.

 

[Herman Hedning]

Thank you, indeed, it is a lovely pearl.

The kind you throw before swine?

 

[Pilgrim 33]

again, thank you, both, for confirming these wondrous pearls.

 

[Mistermystery]

again, thank you, both, for confirming these wondrous pearls.

Elaborate.

 

[Pilgrim 33]

There ARE (3) links in the quote.

 

[Mistermystery]

There ARE (3) links in the quote.

I am honestly beginning to doubt your reasons to be here. Tell me please what you mean by this post, because I have no clue what you are trying to tell me.