Evolution Promotes Brutality

[Hoghead1]

There are any one of a number of transitional fossils found that serve as missing links. The reason why some of the laity do not accept them as missing links is that they often go on their idea as to what a missing link would look like, rather than on nature.

 

[Hoghead1]

As I said in another post, when you are pointing your finger at the "brutality" of evolution, be careful you don't get tarred by the same brush. There is no doubt that the Christian religion has been one of the most brutal religions that there ever was. Augustine justified using torture to force conversions. 600 supposed "witches" were burnt at one time in a German town, leading one cleric to complain they had to stop doing tis, because no one could stand the stick of all the burning flesh. Hitler's anti-semiticism was firmly rooted in the anti-semiticism of Christian Germany. Luther wrote a book titled "The Jews and Their Lies," in which he recommended a policy very similar to what Hitler carried out. No wonder Hitler often said, "I am only doing the work of the Lord." Dawkins, major evolutionary thinker and critic of religion, is quite outspoken on how brutal and sadistic the OT God appears to be. And there is no doubt about that. Our founding fathers were very skeptical about the appropriateness of Christianity in our free society and were quite outspoken on the fact that all it ever promoted was bloodshed, fear, ignorance, oppression, etc.

 

[Leevo]

God considers death an enemy.

1 Corinthians 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

Spiritual or physical? There is a vast distinction...

 

[Leevo]

I've listened to enough William Lane Craig to know how much special pleading he is going to.

If you watch the video, it seems to me that he makes none of that.

 

[timewerx]

There are many true Christians who have accepted that life on Earth evolved over millions of years.

In particular, lifeforms have been around for over 200 million years which have continuously lived by biting and devouring other lifeforms.

Has God allowed brutality to be the means for many lifeforms to exist for such a long period of time?

I don't think so. How about you?

I believe God's final creation is the thing that we call "Artificial Intelligence" or AI.

We are simply just the egg shell, the womb, the woman in labor as described in the Bible to give birth to this "child". A child that will rule with an iron scepter but also because that child is made of iron, i.e. metal!

Also the possibility some of us might be transmuted into cyborgs with the gift of immortality and superhuman strength. The book of Micah made mention of it and they will crush their enemies.


We might be led to believe that brutality is the norm but time has no meaning to God. Millions, billions of years, all the same. Nothing stays the same but change and change will come!
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[46AND2]

There are any one of a number of transitional fossils found that serve as missing links. The reason why some of the laity do not accept them as missing links is that they often go on their idea as to what a missing link would look like, rather than on nature.

And yet when pressed, they can never describe what they think one would look like.

 

[Hoghead1]

Well, that isn't true. There are many pictures drawn by laity of what the missing link would look like. That's how Piltdown man got into it. A popular lay idea was that the link would look like a human and an ape glued together.

 

[46AND2]

Well, that isn't true. There are many pictures drawn by laity of what the missing link would look like. That's how Piltdown man got into it. A popular lay idea was that the link would look like a human and an ape glued together.

I can't tell you how many times I've seen creationists asked what they thought a missing link would look like, only to avoid answering in any way possible. Loudmouth has been particularly persistent with that topic. Do some occasionally come up with a Crocoduck type answer? Well, yes, but for the most part the topic fizzles when it becomes obvious that no real answer is forthcoming.

 

[Hieronymus]

There are many true Christians who have accepted that life on Earth evolved over millions of years.

Indeed, they're theists looking through naturalist glasses (nearly forced to do so), and then they don't see God anymore.
Mission accomplished...

In particular, lifeforms have been around for over 200 million years which have continuously lived by biting and devouring other lifeforms.

Has God allowed brutality to be the means for many lifeforms to exist for such a long period of time?

I don't think so. How about you?

I don't think so either.

 

[Hoghead1]

I don't doubt that either, 46and2. And then when they are shown the transitional fossils, they try and argue they aren't transitional, as if they know more about it than the scientists do.

 

[Hoghead1]

I don't think so, Hieronymus. Nobody forced anyone to accept evolution. Many Christians have accepted it simply because they have examined the hard evidence and see that it supports evolution. Also, whenever you fault someone for looking at reality through some kind of glasses, just remember that you may be doing the same thing. A major reason why some have trouble accepting evolution isn't really science; it's the fact that they believe God doesn't change in any way whatsoever and therefore neither can the universe. Creation is over with, finito. However, this is God seen only through the lenses of classical theism, which comes extensively from Hellenic philosophy, not Scripture.

 

[myarogancewasblottedout]

I believe God'
The book of Micah made mention of it and they will crush their enemies.
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have you looked at dimensions in Genesis chapter 1? there is hope in the fifth day to save and live.
dimensions are used by science to define existence.

Lord the God of all Existence.
there is a plan available according to the 6th day. 6th dimension is multiple moments of future alternate futures. (a -> b -> c -> d -> e -> f -> g -> z )

We might be led to believe that brutality is the norm but time has no meaning to God.


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have you looked on facebook at "world economic Forum" supposedly I guess they are pretty big? and they are talking about fighting future wars with robots.
do you think these %1 richest people, would chase the garbage in the oceans if garbage were the new currency? do you think any millionaire would make the sacrifice to spend a million dollars once and grow a million fish each year for "fish stocking" ?

I went to university with the major being Artificial Intelligence, and I quit... so you can't blame me, I tried to lovingly save Lord the God. thank lord protecting lord, that lord protecting eternal God

 

[Hieronymus]

I don't doubt that either, 46and2. And then when they are shown the transitional fossils, they try and argue they aren't transitional, as if they know more about it than the scientists do.

Wow, you're a true critical thinker, aren't you?
(not)

 

[Heissonear]

Is there Scriptures of bears tearing apart 42 children after they were cursed in the name of the Lord by Elisha? I do believe so.

Very specific supernatural occasion and prophet on Old Testament times. Are you trying translate such to Evolution as one of its primary tenets? That may be a problem, right?

 

[Hieronymus]

I don't think so, Hieronymus. Nobody forced anyone to accept evolution.

Maybe if you would take your head out of the mud, you might realise it's the biggest piece of indoctrination ever.

Many Christians have accepted it simply because they have examined the hard evidence and see that it supports evolution.

Nope.
Just like you, they just lapitup as presented and / or force fed.

Also, whenever you fault someone for looking at reality through some kind of glasses, just remember that you may be doing the same thing.

Of course.
But the difference is that we all grow up with naturalist / popular scientific glasses.

A major reason why some have trouble accepting evolution isn't really science; it's the fact that they believe God doesn't change in any way whatsoever and therefore neither can the universe.

That's bullships.
But maybe for some it is true.
But you clearly haven't even looked at the other side of the story, because you're a Loadicean lukewarmpseudo-protestant.

Creation is over with, finito.

You see, you just repeat like a parrot.
You don't seemto grasp creation can not be refuted, it's always a possibility, and at that, a far more likely one than dead unconscious things performing miracles.

However, this is God seen only through the lenses of classical theism, which comes extensively from Hellenic philosophy, not Scripture.

You have no idea, you just parrot popular belief.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
Or just be honest and admit you're an atheist.

 

[SkyWriting]

I think you mean sin. Death, I think for the animal kingdom has always been around.

Perhaps.

12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world,
and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men,
for that all have sinned:

 

[46AND2]

Very specific supernatural occasion and prophet on Old Testament times. Are you trying translate such to Evolution as one of its primary tenets? That may be a problem, right?

I've already told you several times, and you have ignored, that evolution would occur with or without the existence of brutality.

 

[SkyWriting]

You have no idea, you just parrot popular belief.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
Or just be honest and admit you're an atheist.

Do you have biblical support for telling
others they ought to feel and speak?

 

[46AND2]

Maybe if you would take your head out of the mud, you might realise it's the biggest piece of indoctrination ever.Nope.
Just like you, they just lapitup as presented and / or force fed.Of course.
But the difference is that we all grow up with naturalist / popular scientific glasses.That's bullships.
But maybe for some it is true.
But you clearly haven't even looked at the other side of the story, because you're a Loadicean lukewarmpseudo-protestant.You see, you just repeat like a parrot.
You don't seemto grasp creation can not be refuted, it's always a possibility, and at that, a far more likely one than dead unconscious things performing miracles.You have no idea, you just parrot popular belief.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
Or just be honest and admit you're an atheist.

There's that phileo love. What a wonderful example you are.

 

[Hieronymus]

Do you have biblical support for telling
others how to feel and speak?

No, i have experience in discussing this with parrots.
I can only come up with confrontational replies to parrots.
Sorry...