Exactly how does greenland just lift up and flip over?
Does anyone actually believe this?
Whats next? India walking into Asia?
Does anyone actually believe this?
Whats next? India walking into Asia?
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Evolution is the Great Apostasy
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The lake introduces a steady stream of water pouring into an earthquake and volcanic activity-prone area. Deep underground super hot strata, 
that frequently pushes up to the surface 
turns the underground flow of water into steam, super hot steam. Deep under ground the steam rises. It is trapped however, and so it is pressed against the otherwise considerably cold strata, and the energy of the steam, transferrs to the strata. This in turn causes an even greater melting of the strata . . . and this causes a gradual heating up and increased melting along the surface.
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Oh, you're saying that all that water dumping from a lake, drops down deep into super heated strata below, where it produces steam - and the steam heat deep down tends to increase more ice to melt, as well as contributing to the rapid meltdown of the surface ice!
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Yes. That's it.
Elijah
that frequently pushes up to the surface turns the underground flow of water into steam, super hot steam. Deep under ground the steam rises. It is trapped however, and so it is pressed against the otherwise considerably cold strata, and the energy of the steam, transferrs to the strata. This in turn causes an even greater melting of the strata . . . and this causes a gradual heating up and increased melting along the surface. .
Oh, you're saying that all that water dumping from a lake, drops down deep into super heated strata below, where it produces steam - and the steam heat deep down tends to increase more ice to melt, as well as contributing to the rapid meltdown of the surface ice!
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Yes. That's it.
Elijah
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Jimmy The Hand
I Have Been Complexified!
Can we please stop calling Greenland a continent. I know the term continent is a relative sort of thing ( is Europe a continent or is it really Eurasia blah blah blah ) , but it's really bugging me to death!
Greenland is one big island with some danes, vikings and Richie Cunningham somewhere on an airbase on the edge!
oh. and about 4000 years ago, it was breakdancing.
Tectonic Boogaloo
Greenland is one big island with some danes, vikings and Richie Cunningham somewhere on an airbase on the edge!
oh. and about 4000 years ago, it was breakdancing.
Tectonic Boogaloo
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The Real Facts Prove - The Bible Is Right
Continental Drift Is Wrong -
And the Geological Evolutionists Loose!
By Bruce D. McKay, Elijah
This Is a Reply To einstein314c2
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You are new to this forum and you wanted to know, Exactly how does Greenland just lift up and flip over. Heres your answer. The Movement of Greenland, coming up from what is now the ocean floor Greenland basin, is based on an actual map of the South Polar region, found in almost any modern National Geographic Atlas and that map is posted in this forum. In short it breaks a long standing quarrel between Christianity and the 'carnal reason' of man. That quarrel is, of course, as old as Christianity itself. It has taken different forms in different ages. In that regard, you can read a little of it here, in terms of this being especially important to the entire world, in light of the MELTING OF THE POLAR ICE CAPS. To begin, you and everyone else should be aware of how the facts on continental drift stacked up, as reported just sixty years ago: .
"Oceanic geology is in the midst of a revolution. All the data gathered over the past 30 years 60 years - the soundings of the deep ocean, the samples and photographs of the bottom, the measurements of heat flow and magnetism - are being reinterpreted according to the concept of continental drift and two new concepts: sea-floor spreading and plate tectonics (the notion that the earth's crust consists of plates that are created at one edge and destroyed at the other). Discoveries are made and interpretations developed so often that the scientific literature cannot keep up with them; they are reported by preprint and wandering minstrel. At such a time any broad synthesis is likely to be short-lived, yet so many diverse observations can now be fitted into a coherent picture that it seems worthwhile to present it.
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Before continental drift, sea-floor spreading and plate tectonics captured the imagination of geologists, most of them conceived the earth's crust as being a fairly stable layer enveloping the earth's fluid mantle and core. The only kind of motion normally perceived in this picture was isostasy: the tendency of crustal blocks to float on a plastic mantle. The horizontal displacement of any geologic feature by as much as 100 kilometers was considered startling. This view is no longer consistent with the geological evidence. Instead each new discovery seems to favor sea-floor spreading, continental drift and plate tectonics. These concepts are described elsewhere in this book . . ." Menard, H. W., The Deep-Ocean Floor, Sept 1969, in Continents Adrift by Wilson, J. Tuzo, Ed., (Readings from Scientific American,) W. H. Freeman and Co, 1972, page 79.
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According to plate tectonics the earth's crust is divided into huge segments afloat on the mantle. When such a plate is in motion on the sphere of the earth, it describes a circle around a point termed the pole of rotation, (not to be confused with the entire earth's pole of rotation). But the profound geological effects are said to come from convection forces.
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Now comes the observation that what the geologists may have been deceived and they have been leading the everyone into viewing the ancient earth, incorrectly. Their thinking was that the continents have all moved due to "convection currents in the Earth's mantle!" As if the continents drifted apart. Their claim also - is that there was one large super continent - and it was that immense continental mass that came to be viewed as once floating all together - on an ocean covered mantle!
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In reality, the movement of Greenland proves that the whole SURFACE of the ancient earth was initially covered by, or completely composed of, most of the continents as we know them today. Moreover, it is only then that continental drift truly begins to make sense! When you take a good look at a National Graphic Atlas and the maps of the ocean floors, it is easy to see how the vast oceans DID NOT EXIST in that there was a super continent in the form of a shell over the mantle - without any vast oceans covering this world! In order to see it get a National Graphic Atlas so you can see how it all fit together and follow these basic steps:
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(1) ZIP UP THE ATLANTIC, pulling South America and Africa back together
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(2) TO LIKEWISE ZIP UP THE PACIFIC, swing the gate back, along the same curve that now forms the AEUTIAN ISLANDS, so as to close what is now the Bearing Sea; that places the Western boundary of ALASKA directly adjacent and in a line with the continental slope of the KURIL TRENCH, and against the slopes of the JAPAN TRENCH, the IZU TRENCH and the MANARIA TRENCH, with the lower Western half of North America and what is now Central America, adjacent to THE BISMARK ARCHIPEAGO and the adjacent, SMALL ISLAND CHAIN reaching towards the VITYAZ TRENCH. From that point, the VITYAZ TRENCH corresponds to the present CURVED SECTION OF THE PERU-CHILI TRENCH, adjacent to the West Side of South America, with the SAMOA ISLAND closely adjacent to BOLIVIA, and the STRAIGHT LINE of the TONGA TRENCH and the KERMADAC TRENCH, completes the match up of the STRAIGHT LINE SEGMENT OF THE PERU-CHILI TRENCH of SOUTH AMERICA. The fit is 100% complete, right down to the HIKURANGI TRENCH, the CATHAM RISE, and the CAMPBELL PLATEAU in the area ADJACENT TO NEW ZELAND as an area at one time laying beneath the FOOT OF SOUTHER AMERICA.
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(3) TO LIKEWISE ZIP UP THE INDIA OCEAN, (A) simply slide SUMATRA and JAVA back to their initial STRAIGHT LINE position, against the NINETY-EAST RIDGE. (B) ZIP UP THE ARABIAN SEA, by moving the END OF THE ARIBIAN PENINSULA and the SOMALI PENINSULA to the edge of the CHAGOS LACCA DIVIDE PLATEAU. (C) This will ZIP UP most of THE REMAINDER OF THE INDIAN OCEAN, by the moving AFRICA and MADAGASCAR and that area being fit directly adjacent to the SOUTHWEST INDIAN RIDGE. To properly fit ANARTICIA, rotate the POINT OF THE ANARTIC PENINSULA from its current, 12 oclock position, to a 10 oclock position, and then the CONTINENTAL SHELF fits along the very bottom of the FOOT OF SOUTH AMERICA and that continent forms what was THE BOTTOM or THE MOST NORTHEN CONTINENTAL FACING OF THE ANCIENT EARTH.
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In other words, the whole of the ancient world can be FITTED TOGETHER much as if one were simply closing up a fully bloomed tulip back into . . . a much smaller, tulip bud! Its still the same earth, and yet everything about it fits! And it shows how the entire planet was, or how it once existed, without any of the major oceans as we know of them today! It leaves only one major sea, and that sea turns out to be the ABYSSE! The ancient Abyss was that area in the current Indian Ocean, now called the CEYLON ABYSSE, and it is located just to the North of present day India and Ceylon! All this being obviously true, if we also PULL TOGETHER THE TOP EDGES OF THE CONTINENTS AT THE SOUTH POLE, it will be found that THERE WAS AT ONE TIME, what is now THE GREENLAND BASIN, and it did fit, too. It fit exactly. It fit perfectly. It fit precisely, right in the area in the middle of all the continents there! Hence, at the time when the inner mantle of the earth first began to very rapidly expanded, it release millions and millions of tons of water as new matter. There were vast fountains of water released, and no doubt, there were vast torrential rains that came down! At that time, what happened is, the waters covered the entire earth! But then, as the mantle itself continued and it began to rapidly expand(!), it simply caused each of the continents to move into their respective places as we find them today! In answer to your question therefore, this actually explains how Greenland was just lifted up! At the time it also slid back a few hundred miles as is clearly seen on the oceanographic maps and then it rotated to the east, just before it dropped back down into the position where we find it today.
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DEAR EINSTEIN314EMC2, WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE? The real point of this discussion is, the evolutionists claim that all of the above happened over millions and millions of years of time, and yet THAT LONG HELD THEORY CANNOT POSSIBLY BE TRUE in the face of the facts of what has most clearly and most certainly happened to Greenland! So, as you ask, does anyone actually believe this? The answer is, no, but its simply because there are many persons out there who have never been told the truth. There are many on the planet who have been deceived, and many of them lack the intelligence or the personal merit to be able to let it go. In other words, many of them are too proud to admit it. Evolution is all wrong.
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In fact, most everyone believes in a bunch of bunk, which unfairly discredits the Bible and every other history on this planet has been deliberately marked off as a myth, while everyone is told about the whole world being millions of millions of years old. Perhaps, what needs to be done next is that YOU or someone else in your generation, or some other among NASAs "earth geology animators," need to start thinking in terms making known these real views of the ancient earth! They need to indicate and to otherwise by illustration, show the proofs presented here, in that the mantle of the ancient earth has at one time rapidly expanded! It is only then that the forces of "Continental Drift" actually do make sense, because that DOES ALSO PROVIDE the forces needed, from the very rapid release of millions of tons of compressed matter from within mantle. And, such an event would of course release tons of oxygen and hydrogen atoms, rapidly flowing upward as enormous fountains of water and the release of other highly charged materials, in all, overtaking the entire world as an enormous flood. In addition, when you start looking at the MELTDOWN OF THE POLAR ICE CAPS in terms of their causing a massive global catastrophe the entire world is immediately come into a very drastic and a dangerous time and almost everyone is totally ignorant of what is going on or anything about what is actually going to happen next!
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Moreover, before I end this discussion, I promise you I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU SOME MOUTAIN SIZED PROOFS THAT ALL THIS IS INDEED, THE REAL TRUTH. But before I do that, I am sure you are able to make yourself aware of the truth, that modern day scientists have reported that the earth's mantle is mostly composed of tightly compressed atoms of oxygen, hydrogen, silica, and other small molecules. Hence, if the sudden release of vast quantities of matter, rapidly flooding upward, in the form of highly charged waters and other silica based or carbon saturated compounds, and a great quantity of slush and mud, it would seem to me, that does clearly account for THE FLOOD AS DESCRIBED IN GENESIS AND AS TOLD ABOUT IN EVERY COUNTRY ON THIS PLANET, with it all being due to a rapidly expanding mantle. Clearly, this would of course, also be sufficient to cause the continents to shift or move. Their movement(s) would also be limited by the stabilizing effects of isostatic equilibrium, which would understandably, leave the major continents in a state of balance just as we find them today! Immediately, this solves how so many animals were encased in rock. In areas such as the Agate Spring Quarry of Nebraska, as many as one hundred bones per square foot are found. It explains how the bones of a complete fossil whale were found in the Lauentide Hills near Montreal-Qubecec, at more than five hundred feet above sea level. And it clarifies even the greater of world-wide problem, that of the global spreading of biological species. In brief, the species only appear to have "crossed the oceans," since it is the oceans that moved into place. This is why one and the same species of snakes, turtles, and lizards exist on the continents of Africa and South America, for example, whose ancestors could not exist as such, according to the vast geological time frame! Nor could species like these have conceivably ever swam across the vast gulf that exists between the continents now!
Continental Drift Is Wrong -
And the Geological Evolutionists Loose!
By Bruce D. McKay, Elijah
This Is a Reply To einstein314c2
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You are new to this forum and you wanted to know, Exactly how does Greenland just lift up and flip over. Heres your answer. The Movement of Greenland, coming up from what is now the ocean floor Greenland basin, is based on an actual map of the South Polar region, found in almost any modern National Geographic Atlas and that map is posted in this forum. In short it breaks a long standing quarrel between Christianity and the 'carnal reason' of man. That quarrel is, of course, as old as Christianity itself. It has taken different forms in different ages. In that regard, you can read a little of it here, in terms of this being especially important to the entire world, in light of the MELTING OF THE POLAR ICE CAPS. To begin, you and everyone else should be aware of how the facts on continental drift stacked up, as reported just sixty years ago: .
"Oceanic geology is in the midst of a revolution. All the data gathered over the past 30 years 60 years - the soundings of the deep ocean, the samples and photographs of the bottom, the measurements of heat flow and magnetism - are being reinterpreted according to the concept of continental drift and two new concepts: sea-floor spreading and plate tectonics (the notion that the earth's crust consists of plates that are created at one edge and destroyed at the other). Discoveries are made and interpretations developed so often that the scientific literature cannot keep up with them; they are reported by preprint and wandering minstrel. At such a time any broad synthesis is likely to be short-lived, yet so many diverse observations can now be fitted into a coherent picture that it seems worthwhile to present it.
.
Before continental drift, sea-floor spreading and plate tectonics captured the imagination of geologists, most of them conceived the earth's crust as being a fairly stable layer enveloping the earth's fluid mantle and core. The only kind of motion normally perceived in this picture was isostasy: the tendency of crustal blocks to float on a plastic mantle. The horizontal displacement of any geologic feature by as much as 100 kilometers was considered startling. This view is no longer consistent with the geological evidence. Instead each new discovery seems to favor sea-floor spreading, continental drift and plate tectonics. These concepts are described elsewhere in this book . . ." Menard, H. W., The Deep-Ocean Floor, Sept 1969, in Continents Adrift by Wilson, J. Tuzo, Ed., (Readings from Scientific American,) W. H. Freeman and Co, 1972, page 79.
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According to plate tectonics the earth's crust is divided into huge segments afloat on the mantle. When such a plate is in motion on the sphere of the earth, it describes a circle around a point termed the pole of rotation, (not to be confused with the entire earth's pole of rotation). But the profound geological effects are said to come from convection forces.
.
Now comes the observation that what the geologists may have been deceived and they have been leading the everyone into viewing the ancient earth, incorrectly. Their thinking was that the continents have all moved due to "convection currents in the Earth's mantle!" As if the continents drifted apart. Their claim also - is that there was one large super continent - and it was that immense continental mass that came to be viewed as once floating all together - on an ocean covered mantle!
.
In reality, the movement of Greenland proves that the whole SURFACE of the ancient earth was initially covered by, or completely composed of, most of the continents as we know them today. Moreover, it is only then that continental drift truly begins to make sense! When you take a good look at a National Graphic Atlas and the maps of the ocean floors, it is easy to see how the vast oceans DID NOT EXIST in that there was a super continent in the form of a shell over the mantle - without any vast oceans covering this world! In order to see it get a National Graphic Atlas so you can see how it all fit together and follow these basic steps:
.
(1) ZIP UP THE ATLANTIC, pulling South America and Africa back together
.
(2) TO LIKEWISE ZIP UP THE PACIFIC, swing the gate back, along the same curve that now forms the AEUTIAN ISLANDS, so as to close what is now the Bearing Sea; that places the Western boundary of ALASKA directly adjacent and in a line with the continental slope of the KURIL TRENCH, and against the slopes of the JAPAN TRENCH, the IZU TRENCH and the MANARIA TRENCH, with the lower Western half of North America and what is now Central America, adjacent to THE BISMARK ARCHIPEAGO and the adjacent, SMALL ISLAND CHAIN reaching towards the VITYAZ TRENCH. From that point, the VITYAZ TRENCH corresponds to the present CURVED SECTION OF THE PERU-CHILI TRENCH, adjacent to the West Side of South America, with the SAMOA ISLAND closely adjacent to BOLIVIA, and the STRAIGHT LINE of the TONGA TRENCH and the KERMADAC TRENCH, completes the match up of the STRAIGHT LINE SEGMENT OF THE PERU-CHILI TRENCH of SOUTH AMERICA. The fit is 100% complete, right down to the HIKURANGI TRENCH, the CATHAM RISE, and the CAMPBELL PLATEAU in the area ADJACENT TO NEW ZELAND as an area at one time laying beneath the FOOT OF SOUTHER AMERICA.
.
(3) TO LIKEWISE ZIP UP THE INDIA OCEAN, (A) simply slide SUMATRA and JAVA back to their initial STRAIGHT LINE position, against the NINETY-EAST RIDGE. (B) ZIP UP THE ARABIAN SEA, by moving the END OF THE ARIBIAN PENINSULA and the SOMALI PENINSULA to the edge of the CHAGOS LACCA DIVIDE PLATEAU. (C) This will ZIP UP most of THE REMAINDER OF THE INDIAN OCEAN, by the moving AFRICA and MADAGASCAR and that area being fit directly adjacent to the SOUTHWEST INDIAN RIDGE. To properly fit ANARTICIA, rotate the POINT OF THE ANARTIC PENINSULA from its current, 12 oclock position, to a 10 oclock position, and then the CONTINENTAL SHELF fits along the very bottom of the FOOT OF SOUTH AMERICA and that continent forms what was THE BOTTOM or THE MOST NORTHEN CONTINENTAL FACING OF THE ANCIENT EARTH.
.
In other words, the whole of the ancient world can be FITTED TOGETHER much as if one were simply closing up a fully bloomed tulip back into . . . a much smaller, tulip bud! Its still the same earth, and yet everything about it fits! And it shows how the entire planet was, or how it once existed, without any of the major oceans as we know of them today! It leaves only one major sea, and that sea turns out to be the ABYSSE! The ancient Abyss was that area in the current Indian Ocean, now called the CEYLON ABYSSE, and it is located just to the North of present day India and Ceylon! All this being obviously true, if we also PULL TOGETHER THE TOP EDGES OF THE CONTINENTS AT THE SOUTH POLE, it will be found that THERE WAS AT ONE TIME, what is now THE GREENLAND BASIN, and it did fit, too. It fit exactly. It fit perfectly. It fit precisely, right in the area in the middle of all the continents there! Hence, at the time when the inner mantle of the earth first began to very rapidly expanded, it release millions and millions of tons of water as new matter. There were vast fountains of water released, and no doubt, there were vast torrential rains that came down! At that time, what happened is, the waters covered the entire earth! But then, as the mantle itself continued and it began to rapidly expand(!), it simply caused each of the continents to move into their respective places as we find them today! In answer to your question therefore, this actually explains how Greenland was just lifted up! At the time it also slid back a few hundred miles as is clearly seen on the oceanographic maps and then it rotated to the east, just before it dropped back down into the position where we find it today.
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DEAR EINSTEIN314EMC2, WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE? The real point of this discussion is, the evolutionists claim that all of the above happened over millions and millions of years of time, and yet THAT LONG HELD THEORY CANNOT POSSIBLY BE TRUE in the face of the facts of what has most clearly and most certainly happened to Greenland! So, as you ask, does anyone actually believe this? The answer is, no, but its simply because there are many persons out there who have never been told the truth. There are many on the planet who have been deceived, and many of them lack the intelligence or the personal merit to be able to let it go. In other words, many of them are too proud to admit it. Evolution is all wrong.
.
In fact, most everyone believes in a bunch of bunk, which unfairly discredits the Bible and every other history on this planet has been deliberately marked off as a myth, while everyone is told about the whole world being millions of millions of years old. Perhaps, what needs to be done next is that YOU or someone else in your generation, or some other among NASAs "earth geology animators," need to start thinking in terms making known these real views of the ancient earth! They need to indicate and to otherwise by illustration, show the proofs presented here, in that the mantle of the ancient earth has at one time rapidly expanded! It is only then that the forces of "Continental Drift" actually do make sense, because that DOES ALSO PROVIDE the forces needed, from the very rapid release of millions of tons of compressed matter from within mantle. And, such an event would of course release tons of oxygen and hydrogen atoms, rapidly flowing upward as enormous fountains of water and the release of other highly charged materials, in all, overtaking the entire world as an enormous flood. In addition, when you start looking at the MELTDOWN OF THE POLAR ICE CAPS in terms of their causing a massive global catastrophe the entire world is immediately come into a very drastic and a dangerous time and almost everyone is totally ignorant of what is going on or anything about what is actually going to happen next!
.
Moreover, before I end this discussion, I promise you I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU SOME MOUTAIN SIZED PROOFS THAT ALL THIS IS INDEED, THE REAL TRUTH. But before I do that, I am sure you are able to make yourself aware of the truth, that modern day scientists have reported that the earth's mantle is mostly composed of tightly compressed atoms of oxygen, hydrogen, silica, and other small molecules. Hence, if the sudden release of vast quantities of matter, rapidly flooding upward, in the form of highly charged waters and other silica based or carbon saturated compounds, and a great quantity of slush and mud, it would seem to me, that does clearly account for THE FLOOD AS DESCRIBED IN GENESIS AND AS TOLD ABOUT IN EVERY COUNTRY ON THIS PLANET, with it all being due to a rapidly expanding mantle. Clearly, this would of course, also be sufficient to cause the continents to shift or move. Their movement(s) would also be limited by the stabilizing effects of isostatic equilibrium, which would understandably, leave the major continents in a state of balance just as we find them today! Immediately, this solves how so many animals were encased in rock. In areas such as the Agate Spring Quarry of Nebraska, as many as one hundred bones per square foot are found. It explains how the bones of a complete fossil whale were found in the Lauentide Hills near Montreal-Qubecec, at more than five hundred feet above sea level. And it clarifies even the greater of world-wide problem, that of the global spreading of biological species. In brief, the species only appear to have "crossed the oceans," since it is the oceans that moved into place. This is why one and the same species of snakes, turtles, and lizards exist on the continents of Africa and South America, for example, whose ancestors could not exist as such, according to the vast geological time frame! Nor could species like these have conceivably ever swam across the vast gulf that exists between the continents now!
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I am wondering what sort of time scale you are talking about here. Also you never did state how greenland actually moved. Why did it not break apart from the massive geological forces? Are you saying it stood up on its side, or just floated? How come the continents aren't moving that fast today? Where did the material come from to make the earth expand? How does this disprove evolution? I have many more questions, but I won't write them yet.
What I believe is that the earth was about 4.5 billion years ago. When it was formed it was very close to the size it was today, and water formed over a good portion of the earth from comets and volcanos. Eventually through evolutionary proccesses life formed. Also through study of continental drift, it is obvious the Atlantic is getting larger, and the Pacific getting smaller. Because of the directions of the drifts of the continents it is also obvious that Europe and Africa, was once connect to North and South America. I see no proof what so ever for a world wide hydrualic cataclism. I suppose you are correct in saying that there was a vast continent with no water... billions of years ago before water even was present on the surface.
What I believe is that the earth was about 4.5 billion years ago. When it was formed it was very close to the size it was today, and water formed over a good portion of the earth from comets and volcanos. Eventually through evolutionary proccesses life formed. Also through study of continental drift, it is obvious the Atlantic is getting larger, and the Pacific getting smaller. Because of the directions of the drifts of the continents it is also obvious that Europe and Africa, was once connect to North and South America. I see no proof what so ever for a world wide hydrualic cataclism. I suppose you are correct in saying that there was a vast continent with no water... billions of years ago before water even was present on the surface.
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First, I want to thank you for your kind remarks and your great questions. Please let me state the rest of the facts first, and then I will answers each of your questions, so you can 'lead them.'
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For one thing you need to be sure you know this about America. (QUOTE) "Not long ago in a geological sense, the flat plain from New Jersey to Florida was under the sea. THE OCEAN SURF BROKE DIRECTLY ON THE OLD APPLACHIAN MOUNTAINS. Previously the south eastern part of the mountain structure had sunk below the sea, and become covered with a layer of sand and mud, thickening seaward. The wedge-like mass of marine sediments was then uplifted and cut into by rivers, giving the Atlantic coastal plain of the United States. Why was it uplifted?" I CAN HAZZARD A GUESS! IT WAS UPLIFTED BECAUSE THE MANTLE BELOW THIS AREA RAPIDLY EXPANDED! AND ANOTHER EVIDENCE OF THIS FACT FOLLOWS! "To the westward are the Appalachians. The geologist tells us of the stressful times when a belt of rocks extending from Alabama to Newfoundland was jammed, thrust together, to make this mountain system. Why? How was it done? In former times the sea flooded the region of the Great Plains from Mexico to Alaska, and then withdrew. Why this change?" (R. A. Daly, Our Mobile Earth, 1962, page 90.)
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There can only be one answer! the wedge-like mass of marine sediments that now forms the coastal plain of the United States, was very suddenly uplifted - by the same internal forces that pushed the mountains skyward, in other continents in many other areas across the surface of the entire earth.
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So it is that by way of these same forces, we find the remains of everything from ice encased mammoths, to tropical forests and tropical plants and trees, warm water corals, and many tens of thousands of other frozen animals across the region of the South Pole, "overcome in midsummer by a cold blast with temperatures lower than minus 150 degrees!" (Dillow, Joseph C., The Waters Above, Chicago: Moody Press, 1981, page 396).
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Moreover it also explains the miles and miles of sea floors around the world, filled with splendidly preserved fishes, and the rocks that are filled with the skeletons of even birds and complete land animals. All that is what remains - of what was at one time rapidly covered by newly released matter! And that matter now appears to us as mere sediment! It was laid down rapidly, and it immediately hardened so fast, that no fish were there to destroy the cadavers. No normal waters ever had a chance to separate the skeletal bones! And even while the theory of evolution can be traced back to Aristotle, to the teachings of Charles Lyell and Darwin, have always held that no widespread catastrophes have ever disrupted, but that everything on this planet has supposedly emerged as some very 'slow and steady process.' Hence, you need to look back at what "the fathers" did when they conspired to set up this whole system of logic! They obviously had it all wrong and by they sorceries were all nations deceived. Clearly, evolution is decidedly, NOT what took place.
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Still unconvinced? You may be, but now just consider what follows as the first part of those mountain sized proofs I promised you! If the concept of the earth's mantle expanding is incorrect, how did it otherwise happen that sedimentary rocks came to cover high mountains - and they are even found on the Himalayans, the highest of all. And not only rocks are found there, but also the shells and skeletons of marine life, then surely it is true that the forces of an expanding mantle, in many cases, broke through those areas weakened by way of their being inland seas teaming with fishes - and the expanding matter below the surface caused the mountains to rise. In fact, the same forces pushing from within and twisting on the sides is the only possible explanation for the birth of the Cordilleras, as well as the Himalayans, and it moved the once flat plain from New Jersey to Florida, which was once under the sea. And when the Appalachian Mountains went upward, the ocean surf rolled back, and this entire wedge like layer of sand and mud, once thickening seaward rapidly shifted. The run off created the "Natural Chimneys of Virginia," and the "Natural Bridge of Virginia," as well as thrusting and jamming together of massive continent-wide rock belts from Alabama to Newfoundland! And all this also left behind the fossil filled caves that exist today, twenty miles or so inland, along the Florida panhandle.
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Still don't believe that the earth's mantle expanded and released such great fountains of new water? Well last but surely not least just as I promised you, it also solves the whole problem of how all the mountain ranges in the world came to be tangentially compressed - and why they are all like that, all over the entire world. I mean, I must most respectfully point out that what the geologists could never explain about mountain making - always centered on how the mountains of today are "composed of tangentially compressed and over thrust rocks that indicate scores of miles of circumferential shortening in the Earth's crust." Hence the real answer to this is simply, that the Continents were more curved, before the mantle explanded - because that is when they were floating on a much smaller surface with a far greater declining angle to it. In other words, the continents made up the outer skin of a globe the size of a soft ball - and the globe expanded to something more of the size of a socker ball! And WHAT IS NOW the current mantle of the earth, is actually that much greater than it was! Hence, it expanded to the size we find it today, and as it expanded, it expanded so much that it caused a great amount of horizontal compression to occur across the face of EACH CONTINENT. In brief, this was the exact force that has obviously caused entire mountain ranges all over the world to became much more flattened out; therefore, this explains why all the mountains have become tangentially compressed; it is a direct result of the earth's mantle having so greatly expanded! And this becomes perfectly clear once you simply re-read what was noted by F. K. Mather in his "Review of Biography of the Earth," by G. Gamnow, (Science, January 16, 1942.) "Radical shrinkage is woefully inadequate to cause the observed amount of horizontal compression. Therein lies the real perplexity of the problem of mountain-making. Geologists have not yet found a satisfactory escape from this dilemma." Ergo, herein is the solution to the "real perplexity of mountain making." In other words, the mountains of this world even prove that the earth's mantle, has very rapidly expanded. And at the same time, the release of new matter also produced those areas now know as the Atlantic Ocean, the Pacific Ocean, and the Indian Ocean - and these very same (new) areas yet hold that vast amount of newly formed waters, that once covered the entire earth . . . just as it has always been described in the book of Genesis. So, did the mantle within the earth expand significantly, all at one time? The answer is a definite yes - and all the mountain ranges of the world have been "horizontally compressed" as a result of that period of the mantle's expanshion!
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In the final analysis it becomes evident that it is time for us all to get together and try to correct all the harm that has been generated by what the Fathers have done. After all, the Bible and the ancient history as concerns every religion have all been deliberately marked off as myths in regard to whatever they have to say concerning the flood, all around the world, and they were correct all along. Moreover, what they (the Fathes) were trying to do is, wipe out the Bible itself, as if it was all wrong but it has truly, never been in error. It was right all along. In reply to your questions therefore, the time scale I am talking about is a literal one, and this is truly a young earth. Greenland actually moved due to the time when the mantle was expanding. As the whole earth opened up, it can be compared to being like a small tulip bud, that opened up into a regular size tulip! When that happened, Greenland popped up, rocked or actually bumped its way back a few hundred miles, and then rotated to the east as it came crashing down.
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A Few Questions and Answers:
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Why did Greenland not break apart from the massive geological forces? Good question! From the evidencs that are yet visible, it would appear that the area was not YET frozen over, as it is now. In addition, Greenland was a very warm place, and when it happened or it popped up on end, just prior to the thermal reaction talking place, which rapidly drew so much heat out that it solidly froce most the water then covering the polar regions. Are you saying it stood up on its side, or just floated? I am saying it popped up, something like a tiddily wink! In fact, I have often referred to it as Gods Tiddily Wink! How come the continents aren't moving that fast today? They arent moving like they once were, today, because the whole face of nature changed. That is, all the newly introduced matter solidified, after mixing in with the matter on the surface of the planet - and it is obviously true that there were nany molecules that were evidently, for a time, far more fluid or more flexible, in a manner of speaking. You could say, everything was inherently, much wetter; as this molecular wetness began to decline, along with the decline of vast amounts of water that was pouring into the oceans, it rapidly stabilized the positions of the continents (and their mountains) much as we yet find them today.
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Where did the material come from to make the earth expand? The material that made the earth expand, all came from the interior of the earth. It, the earth's interior, is composed of highly compressed matter. That is the exact truth, according to those expert scientists who study the mantle. It is mostly tightly compressed atoms of hydrogen and oxygen, and other small atoms. As these tightly compressed atoms chamged in state, from that state to this, we find that once on the surface of the planet, they obviously DREW IN a lot of heat! In other words, they were VERY, VERY COLD and even to a significant degree super cold! They were so cold that the thermal change immediately blasted through the polar regions, leaving behind enormous iceburgs and vast ice flows as well. Entire mammoths, large numbers of them, were flash frozen so completely when recovered their flesh has often been descried as being, as fresh as well frozen beef! In addition, there are also leaves and twigs that are found flash frozen in their stomachs - and in between their teeth; they are found in a state not decomposed, but as with the bodies of other animals, well preserved in blocks of ice!
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How does this disprove evolution? Alas, it would be strictly impossible for Greenland to have moved like it has obviously moved, in any way but by way of its being, a very rapid occurrence! Moreover, if the fact is true that Greenland did move, as it clearly did, then the entire concept of geological time must be absolutely wrong! In addition, there is one other very stark tell-tale sign that cleary proves that all this is in fact, true. That is, the northern part of Greenland - according to the concerted opinion of the glaciologists, was never glaciated! What that means is, it was, and it had to be in fact true, that the continent (Greenland) standing up on one end, just as the glaciation of the rest of the South Pole hit! It is that, and only that, which could allow Greenly to be in such a position so as to shield the northern most end of the whole continent of Greenland at that time when the whole area suddenly dropped down to lower than minus 150 degrees! Just at the point when that final blast of coldness took over - thats when Greenland turned to the east, and as the cold wave passed it neatly dropped into its current position.
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For one thing you need to be sure you know this about America. (QUOTE) "Not long ago in a geological sense, the flat plain from New Jersey to Florida was under the sea. THE OCEAN SURF BROKE DIRECTLY ON THE OLD APPLACHIAN MOUNTAINS. Previously the south eastern part of the mountain structure had sunk below the sea, and become covered with a layer of sand and mud, thickening seaward. The wedge-like mass of marine sediments was then uplifted and cut into by rivers, giving the Atlantic coastal plain of the United States. Why was it uplifted?" I CAN HAZZARD A GUESS! IT WAS UPLIFTED BECAUSE THE MANTLE BELOW THIS AREA RAPIDLY EXPANDED! AND ANOTHER EVIDENCE OF THIS FACT FOLLOWS! "To the westward are the Appalachians. The geologist tells us of the stressful times when a belt of rocks extending from Alabama to Newfoundland was jammed, thrust together, to make this mountain system. Why? How was it done? In former times the sea flooded the region of the Great Plains from Mexico to Alaska, and then withdrew. Why this change?" (R. A. Daly, Our Mobile Earth, 1962, page 90.)
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There can only be one answer! the wedge-like mass of marine sediments that now forms the coastal plain of the United States, was very suddenly uplifted - by the same internal forces that pushed the mountains skyward, in other continents in many other areas across the surface of the entire earth.
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So it is that by way of these same forces, we find the remains of everything from ice encased mammoths, to tropical forests and tropical plants and trees, warm water corals, and many tens of thousands of other frozen animals across the region of the South Pole, "overcome in midsummer by a cold blast with temperatures lower than minus 150 degrees!" (Dillow, Joseph C., The Waters Above, Chicago: Moody Press, 1981, page 396).
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Moreover it also explains the miles and miles of sea floors around the world, filled with splendidly preserved fishes, and the rocks that are filled with the skeletons of even birds and complete land animals. All that is what remains - of what was at one time rapidly covered by newly released matter! And that matter now appears to us as mere sediment! It was laid down rapidly, and it immediately hardened so fast, that no fish were there to destroy the cadavers. No normal waters ever had a chance to separate the skeletal bones! And even while the theory of evolution can be traced back to Aristotle, to the teachings of Charles Lyell and Darwin, have always held that no widespread catastrophes have ever disrupted, but that everything on this planet has supposedly emerged as some very 'slow and steady process.' Hence, you need to look back at what "the fathers" did when they conspired to set up this whole system of logic! They obviously had it all wrong and by they sorceries were all nations deceived. Clearly, evolution is decidedly, NOT what took place.
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Still unconvinced? You may be, but now just consider what follows as the first part of those mountain sized proofs I promised you! If the concept of the earth's mantle expanding is incorrect, how did it otherwise happen that sedimentary rocks came to cover high mountains - and they are even found on the Himalayans, the highest of all. And not only rocks are found there, but also the shells and skeletons of marine life, then surely it is true that the forces of an expanding mantle, in many cases, broke through those areas weakened by way of their being inland seas teaming with fishes - and the expanding matter below the surface caused the mountains to rise. In fact, the same forces pushing from within and twisting on the sides is the only possible explanation for the birth of the Cordilleras, as well as the Himalayans, and it moved the once flat plain from New Jersey to Florida, which was once under the sea. And when the Appalachian Mountains went upward, the ocean surf rolled back, and this entire wedge like layer of sand and mud, once thickening seaward rapidly shifted. The run off created the "Natural Chimneys of Virginia," and the "Natural Bridge of Virginia," as well as thrusting and jamming together of massive continent-wide rock belts from Alabama to Newfoundland! And all this also left behind the fossil filled caves that exist today, twenty miles or so inland, along the Florida panhandle.
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Still don't believe that the earth's mantle expanded and released such great fountains of new water? Well last but surely not least just as I promised you, it also solves the whole problem of how all the mountain ranges in the world came to be tangentially compressed - and why they are all like that, all over the entire world. I mean, I must most respectfully point out that what the geologists could never explain about mountain making - always centered on how the mountains of today are "composed of tangentially compressed and over thrust rocks that indicate scores of miles of circumferential shortening in the Earth's crust." Hence the real answer to this is simply, that the Continents were more curved, before the mantle explanded - because that is when they were floating on a much smaller surface with a far greater declining angle to it. In other words, the continents made up the outer skin of a globe the size of a soft ball - and the globe expanded to something more of the size of a socker ball! And WHAT IS NOW the current mantle of the earth, is actually that much greater than it was! Hence, it expanded to the size we find it today, and as it expanded, it expanded so much that it caused a great amount of horizontal compression to occur across the face of EACH CONTINENT. In brief, this was the exact force that has obviously caused entire mountain ranges all over the world to became much more flattened out; therefore, this explains why all the mountains have become tangentially compressed; it is a direct result of the earth's mantle having so greatly expanded! And this becomes perfectly clear once you simply re-read what was noted by F. K. Mather in his "Review of Biography of the Earth," by G. Gamnow, (Science, January 16, 1942.) "Radical shrinkage is woefully inadequate to cause the observed amount of horizontal compression. Therein lies the real perplexity of the problem of mountain-making. Geologists have not yet found a satisfactory escape from this dilemma." Ergo, herein is the solution to the "real perplexity of mountain making." In other words, the mountains of this world even prove that the earth's mantle, has very rapidly expanded. And at the same time, the release of new matter also produced those areas now know as the Atlantic Ocean, the Pacific Ocean, and the Indian Ocean - and these very same (new) areas yet hold that vast amount of newly formed waters, that once covered the entire earth . . . just as it has always been described in the book of Genesis. So, did the mantle within the earth expand significantly, all at one time? The answer is a definite yes - and all the mountain ranges of the world have been "horizontally compressed" as a result of that period of the mantle's expanshion!
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In the final analysis it becomes evident that it is time for us all to get together and try to correct all the harm that has been generated by what the Fathers have done. After all, the Bible and the ancient history as concerns every religion have all been deliberately marked off as myths in regard to whatever they have to say concerning the flood, all around the world, and they were correct all along. Moreover, what they (the Fathes) were trying to do is, wipe out the Bible itself, as if it was all wrong but it has truly, never been in error. It was right all along. In reply to your questions therefore, the time scale I am talking about is a literal one, and this is truly a young earth. Greenland actually moved due to the time when the mantle was expanding. As the whole earth opened up, it can be compared to being like a small tulip bud, that opened up into a regular size tulip! When that happened, Greenland popped up, rocked or actually bumped its way back a few hundred miles, and then rotated to the east as it came crashing down.
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A Few Questions and Answers:
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Why did Greenland not break apart from the massive geological forces? Good question! From the evidencs that are yet visible, it would appear that the area was not YET frozen over, as it is now. In addition, Greenland was a very warm place, and when it happened or it popped up on end, just prior to the thermal reaction talking place, which rapidly drew so much heat out that it solidly froce most the water then covering the polar regions. Are you saying it stood up on its side, or just floated? I am saying it popped up, something like a tiddily wink! In fact, I have often referred to it as Gods Tiddily Wink! How come the continents aren't moving that fast today? They arent moving like they once were, today, because the whole face of nature changed. That is, all the newly introduced matter solidified, after mixing in with the matter on the surface of the planet - and it is obviously true that there were nany molecules that were evidently, for a time, far more fluid or more flexible, in a manner of speaking. You could say, everything was inherently, much wetter; as this molecular wetness began to decline, along with the decline of vast amounts of water that was pouring into the oceans, it rapidly stabilized the positions of the continents (and their mountains) much as we yet find them today.
.
Where did the material come from to make the earth expand? The material that made the earth expand, all came from the interior of the earth. It, the earth's interior, is composed of highly compressed matter. That is the exact truth, according to those expert scientists who study the mantle. It is mostly tightly compressed atoms of hydrogen and oxygen, and other small atoms. As these tightly compressed atoms chamged in state, from that state to this, we find that once on the surface of the planet, they obviously DREW IN a lot of heat! In other words, they were VERY, VERY COLD and even to a significant degree super cold! They were so cold that the thermal change immediately blasted through the polar regions, leaving behind enormous iceburgs and vast ice flows as well. Entire mammoths, large numbers of them, were flash frozen so completely when recovered their flesh has often been descried as being, as fresh as well frozen beef! In addition, there are also leaves and twigs that are found flash frozen in their stomachs - and in between their teeth; they are found in a state not decomposed, but as with the bodies of other animals, well preserved in blocks of ice!
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How does this disprove evolution? Alas, it would be strictly impossible for Greenland to have moved like it has obviously moved, in any way but by way of its being, a very rapid occurrence! Moreover, if the fact is true that Greenland did move, as it clearly did, then the entire concept of geological time must be absolutely wrong! In addition, there is one other very stark tell-tale sign that cleary proves that all this is in fact, true. That is, the northern part of Greenland - according to the concerted opinion of the glaciologists, was never glaciated! What that means is, it was, and it had to be in fact true, that the continent (Greenland) standing up on one end, just as the glaciation of the rest of the South Pole hit! It is that, and only that, which could allow Greenly to be in such a position so as to shield the northern most end of the whole continent of Greenland at that time when the whole area suddenly dropped down to lower than minus 150 degrees! Just at the point when that final blast of coldness took over - thats when Greenland turned to the east, and as the cold wave passed it neatly dropped into its current position.
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This will be short. There are a few closing notes here, the details about a vast, "spiritual city," that is historically known as Babylon. A few choice, closing scriptures of note are included as well.
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Overall, I think there was, possibly, something about the newly released matter which caused it to readily draw the heat energy out of the sufface matter, from each end of the earth, or the earth's polar regions! In that regard, It is usually said that in ages past the climate all over the world was the same, or that a characerstic of the warm periods which have formed the major part of the geological time was the small temperature differences between equatorial and polar regions, according to the scientific reports that are cited by Velikovsky. In any event, it can be absolutely proven that Greenland was in fact, far, far warmer than it is now. The proof of this is in the fact that when O. Heet of Zurich published his classic work on the fossil plants of the Artic, in 1960, (QUOTE) he identified the plant remains of the northern parts of Greenland as MAGNOLIA and FIG TREES, among other species. Forests of exotic trees and groves of juicy subtropical plants grew in the land that lies deep in the cold Artic . . . (This is according to what Immanuel Velikovsky wrote in, Earth In Upheaveal.) There are many other details and clues in the books written by Velikovsky, but he unfortunately became convinced at some early point, that all the effects (at both the North Pole and the South Pole, etc.) had been the brought about by a near, brush with this earth and a fast moving comet!
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Personally, if you go back and read about what Velikovsky has uncovered in terms of the earths mantle expanding to some degree, from time to time, you will find more than ample proof for a world wide cataclism - and it was at one time of a hydrualic nature - and so vast that it covered the entire earth, in its tulip bud form, with a great amount of water being released!
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I am of course very happy that you have the wisdom to agree with me, that I am correct in saying that there was a vast continent, with little no water as we know it today. In that regard let me add that all the ancient records and the scriptures say that this next run is not going to bring water again, but the release of energy as fire! Moreover, it is very easy to prove that none of this has happened billions of years ago, before any water even was present on the surface. For one thing, do you think that MAGNOLIA and FIG TREES are modern day plants, or not? Also, look and hunt for it closely and you will even find it mentioned in one of the books by Immanuel Velikovsky, that according to those living in Greenland today, or in comparatively recent times, they say there was a time the entire world turned upside down. It apparently did, at least, from their point of view! Incredibly, if that was what happened to those people whose ancestors are yet alive today, the fact that were even some persons who obviously lived on the continent of Greenland when it happened throws the whole debate of "evolution" out the window! And in Greeland they even say when it happened, it caused some of them to became what they can only describe as - antipoles!
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As for all the unprecidented heat that is now overtaking and melting the ice of the polar ice caps and those regions, in Velikovsky's book, Worlds In Collision, he writes under the title of The World Ages, that The Stoics generally believed in periodic conflagrations (i.e., meaning, everything begins to suddenly and spontaneously burst into flames,) by which the world was consumed, to be shaped anew. This is due to the forces of ever-active fire (i.e., energy) which exists in all things and in the course of long cycles of time resolves everything into itself and out of it is constructed a reborn world, so Philo presented the notion of the Stoics that our world is refashioned in periodic confragrations. Velikovsky also writes: The Greeks had similar traditions. There is a period wrote Censorinus, called the supreme year by Aristotle, at the end of which the sun, moon, and all the planets return to their original positions. This supreme year has a great (i.e., very eventful) winter and a great (i.e., very eventful) sumer, called by the Greeks kataklysmos, which means deluge, and a great (i.e., very eventful) summer, called by the Greeks ekpyrosis, or combustion of the world. The world actually, seems to be inundated and burned alternately in each of these epoches..
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The Little Book Is Now Opened!
Now, I will also share that with you, not that I rely on the the Greeks or the Stoics! I would suggest, however, if you truly want to see where I am coming from then you need to make it a point to go back and download each of the discussions that have been posted in this forum. Then print them up and when you put them together you will find that they are all connected, and the various entries that have been posted, will even form a "little book!" This "little book" is a telling one. It's all about Him that liveth for ever and ever, about the things that therein are, and it is about the sea, and the things which are therein, and in the earth,(Rev10:6) and so 'the mystery of God' is hereby finished 'just as he hath declared to his servants, the prophets!'(Rev 10:7) If you are understanding of this, you are to follow Rev 10:11. To all others, I want to declare unto you that this is the end of the ancient mystery of Babylon! That city, the city of Babylon, is a vast spiritual city and Babylon has fallen! It's father has a name I choose not to include here; it is clearly stated in the OT, that he is the Head of the city of Babylon. It is a city of many walls, rooms, and doors - and a city of one mystery after another mystery - but that once great city is now fallen! It is has also been portrayed as 'the woman, drunken with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus.'(Rev 17:6) You are being called "out of her," 'for her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.'(Rev 18:5) Nor ask of you, what to do or what to say . . . for those who have a mind for mysteries can understand it. Moreover, you are told to 'Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double, according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled, fill to her double. How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her . . .'(Rev 18:6,7)
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'Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.'(Rev 18:20) 'And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all, in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee; for thy merchands were the great men of the earth; for by thy soceries were all the nations, deceived. And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.'(Rev 18:23,24)
Elijah
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Overall, I think there was, possibly, something about the newly released matter which caused it to readily draw the heat energy out of the sufface matter, from each end of the earth, or the earth's polar regions! In that regard, It is usually said that in ages past the climate all over the world was the same, or that a characerstic of the warm periods which have formed the major part of the geological time was the small temperature differences between equatorial and polar regions, according to the scientific reports that are cited by Velikovsky. In any event, it can be absolutely proven that Greenland was in fact, far, far warmer than it is now. The proof of this is in the fact that when O. Heet of Zurich published his classic work on the fossil plants of the Artic, in 1960, (QUOTE) he identified the plant remains of the northern parts of Greenland as MAGNOLIA and FIG TREES, among other species. Forests of exotic trees and groves of juicy subtropical plants grew in the land that lies deep in the cold Artic . . . (This is according to what Immanuel Velikovsky wrote in, Earth In Upheaveal.) There are many other details and clues in the books written by Velikovsky, but he unfortunately became convinced at some early point, that all the effects (at both the North Pole and the South Pole, etc.) had been the brought about by a near, brush with this earth and a fast moving comet!
.
Personally, if you go back and read about what Velikovsky has uncovered in terms of the earths mantle expanding to some degree, from time to time, you will find more than ample proof for a world wide cataclism - and it was at one time of a hydrualic nature - and so vast that it covered the entire earth, in its tulip bud form, with a great amount of water being released!
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I am of course very happy that you have the wisdom to agree with me, that I am correct in saying that there was a vast continent, with little no water as we know it today. In that regard let me add that all the ancient records and the scriptures say that this next run is not going to bring water again, but the release of energy as fire! Moreover, it is very easy to prove that none of this has happened billions of years ago, before any water even was present on the surface. For one thing, do you think that MAGNOLIA and FIG TREES are modern day plants, or not? Also, look and hunt for it closely and you will even find it mentioned in one of the books by Immanuel Velikovsky, that according to those living in Greenland today, or in comparatively recent times, they say there was a time the entire world turned upside down. It apparently did, at least, from their point of view! Incredibly, if that was what happened to those people whose ancestors are yet alive today, the fact that were even some persons who obviously lived on the continent of Greenland when it happened throws the whole debate of "evolution" out the window! And in Greeland they even say when it happened, it caused some of them to became what they can only describe as - antipoles!
.
As for all the unprecidented heat that is now overtaking and melting the ice of the polar ice caps and those regions, in Velikovsky's book, Worlds In Collision, he writes under the title of The World Ages, that The Stoics generally believed in periodic conflagrations (i.e., meaning, everything begins to suddenly and spontaneously burst into flames,) by which the world was consumed, to be shaped anew. This is due to the forces of ever-active fire (i.e., energy) which exists in all things and in the course of long cycles of time resolves everything into itself and out of it is constructed a reborn world, so Philo presented the notion of the Stoics that our world is refashioned in periodic confragrations. Velikovsky also writes: The Greeks had similar traditions. There is a period wrote Censorinus, called the supreme year by Aristotle, at the end of which the sun, moon, and all the planets return to their original positions. This supreme year has a great (i.e., very eventful) winter and a great (i.e., very eventful) sumer, called by the Greeks kataklysmos, which means deluge, and a great (i.e., very eventful) summer, called by the Greeks ekpyrosis, or combustion of the world. The world actually, seems to be inundated and burned alternately in each of these epoches..
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The Little Book Is Now Opened!
Now, I will also share that with you, not that I rely on the the Greeks or the Stoics! I would suggest, however, if you truly want to see where I am coming from then you need to make it a point to go back and download each of the discussions that have been posted in this forum. Then print them up and when you put them together you will find that they are all connected, and the various entries that have been posted, will even form a "little book!" This "little book" is a telling one. It's all about Him that liveth for ever and ever, about the things that therein are, and it is about the sea, and the things which are therein, and in the earth,(Rev10:6) and so 'the mystery of God' is hereby finished 'just as he hath declared to his servants, the prophets!'(Rev 10:7) If you are understanding of this, you are to follow Rev 10:11. To all others, I want to declare unto you that this is the end of the ancient mystery of Babylon! That city, the city of Babylon, is a vast spiritual city and Babylon has fallen! It's father has a name I choose not to include here; it is clearly stated in the OT, that he is the Head of the city of Babylon. It is a city of many walls, rooms, and doors - and a city of one mystery after another mystery - but that once great city is now fallen! It is has also been portrayed as 'the woman, drunken with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus.'(Rev 17:6) You are being called "out of her," 'for her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.'(Rev 18:5) Nor ask of you, what to do or what to say . . . for those who have a mind for mysteries can understand it. Moreover, you are told to 'Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double, according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled, fill to her double. How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her . . .'(Rev 18:6,7)
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'Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.'(Rev 18:20) 'And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all, in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee; for thy merchands were the great men of the earth; for by thy soceries were all the nations, deceived. And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.'(Rev 18:23,24)
Elijah
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Captain_Jack_Sparrow
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Not only is this hard on the eyes - it's a complete load of garbage.
What did I say earlier - 'CRANK ALERT'.
What did I say earlier - 'CRANK ALERT'.
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Captain_Jack_Sparrow
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Just for fun - calculate the energy required to 'flip' Greenland as you put it.
Roughly, the mass of Greenland is 2.5 X 10^20 Kg.
Thus to flip (your words) I estimate about 1.1 X 10^27 Joules of energy.
Now whatever process drives this cannot be 100% efficient in flipping so let's assume an equipartition so 50% goes into flipping which leaves an equal amount of 1.1 X 10^27 Joules goes elsewhere.
i.e. boils the oceans off or since reading your stuff where you don't seem to have oceans then the atmosphere heats up pretty hot in the vicinity of Greenland.
Also what happens when Greenland falls back down?
WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS NOT A MECHANISM FOR BIBLICAL FLOODS OR PLATE TECTONICS BUT A STERILISATION OF THE ENTIRE PLANET!
Don't you think about basic physics before postulating these flights of fancy?
This material of yours is garbage!
Roughly, the mass of Greenland is 2.5 X 10^20 Kg.
Thus to flip (your words) I estimate about 1.1 X 10^27 Joules of energy.
Now whatever process drives this cannot be 100% efficient in flipping so let's assume an equipartition so 50% goes into flipping which leaves an equal amount of 1.1 X 10^27 Joules goes elsewhere.
i.e. boils the oceans off or since reading your stuff where you don't seem to have oceans then the atmosphere heats up pretty hot in the vicinity of Greenland.
Also what happens when Greenland falls back down?
WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS NOT A MECHANISM FOR BIBLICAL FLOODS OR PLATE TECTONICS BUT A STERILISATION OF THE ENTIRE PLANET!
Don't you think about basic physics before postulating these flights of fancy?
This material of yours is garbage!
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Just one of you out there go get an atlas with ocean floor maps in it, and see if it all matches up - just as I have noted it, or not. Then decide!
Is that too hard!!!!
Elijah
Is that too hard!!!!
Elijah
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Captain_Jack_Sparrow
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Bruce D McKay said:
WOW - what a retort.
Please tell me where the energy goes?
What happens when Greenland collapses back down?
Why don't you understand basic physics?
Are you a crank? Ahh - don't bother answering this one - I already have it figured out.
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CApn' Jack, how does that compare to say, the amount of energy released by the impact that killed the dinosaurs?
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Captain_Jack_Sparrow
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Jet Black said:
Off the top of my head I would say that it's about 2000 times greater.
I think the KT event is usually quoted at 100 million megatons of TNT.
A megaton of TNT is 4.5 X 10^15 Joules so 1.1 X10^27/4.5 X 10^15
gives 2.75 X 10^11 Megatons. Divide by 10^8 Megatons for KT event gives 2750 times greater.
My initial calc. was very rough. I just took the mass of Greenland and raised that by 400 kilometres in the Earth's potential. It was just meant to give an idea of the scale of things.
A quick KT calc is.
Mass of asteroid = 4/3 Pi (5,000m)^3 * (3000 Kg/m^3) = 1.57 X 10^15 Kg.
Kinetic energy = 0.5 * 1.57X10^15 * (30,000 m/s)^2 = 7.1 X 10^23 Joules.
=7.1X10^23 J/ 4.5 X10^15 J = 157 million megatons. Close to my original guess.
Note I chose 30 km/s velocity as that is approx. Earth velocity in it's orbit which would a typical relative velocity for a colliding object. I made the asteroid 10 km diameter which is what is usually quoted for KT impactor.
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An energy release 2000 times greater than the KT impact would probably shatter the whole crust.Captain_Jack_Sparrow said:
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I have done just that. Sure, that hole in the Artic looks somewhat like Greenland, but so did that potato chip I had last night. Its a coincidence. That line where greenland supposedly was when it stood up is just a mid oceanic ridge, like any other. As for how it got the energy to move, it breaks just about every law of thermodynamics. I also did some rough calculations. The earth would have increased in volume by six times, meaning the earth would have had to have been six times more dense. As I understand what your saying, the reason for this denseness is that it is cold. This not only would not be a plausible explanation, the heat required for it to expand would be very tremenddous. Also, how would greenland stay together. If it moved slowly, then when it stood up on end it would immediately collapse under its own weight. it it was moving fast enough tokeep this from happening, this difference in mommentum would tear it apart when it stopped. Any geological event on this scale would certainly wipe out all life on earth. Plus, about 70% of the earths crust would be new igneous rock, its age being however long ago the earth expanded.Bruce D McKay said:
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AFTER having been twice driven back by heavy southwestern gales, Her Majesty's ship Beagle, a ten-gun brig, under the command of Captain Fitz Roy, R. N., sailed from Devonport on the 27th of December, 1831. The object of the expedition was to complete the survey of Patagonia and Tierra del Fuego, commenced under Captain King in 1826 to 1830, -- to survey the shores of Chile, Peru, and of some islands in the Pacific -- and to carry a chain of chronometrical measurements round the World. On the 6th of January we reached Teneriffe, but were prevented landing, by fears of our bringing the cholera: the next morning we saw the sun rise behind the rugged outline of the Grand Canary island, and suddenly illuminate the Peak of Teneriffe, whilst the lower parts were veiled in fleecy clouds. This was the first of many delightful days never to be forgotten. On the 16th of January, 1832, we anchored at Porto Praya, in St. Jago, the chief island of the Cape de Verd archipelago.
The neighbourhood of Porto Praya, viewed from the sea, wears a desolate aspect. The volcanic fires of a past age, and the scorching heat of a tropical sun, have in most places rendered the soil unfit for vegetation. The country rises in successive steps of table-land, interspersed with some truncate conical hills, and the horizon is bounded by an irregular chain of more lofty mountains. The scene, as beheld through the hazy atmosphere of this climate, is one of great interest; if, indeed, a person, fresh from sea, and who has just walked, for the first time, in a grove of cocoa-nut trees, can be a judge of anything but his own happiness. The island would generally be considered as very uninteresting, but to anyone accustomed only to an English landscape, the novel aspect of an utterly sterile land possesses a grandeur which more vegetation might spoil. A single green leaf can scarcely be discovered over wide tracts of the lava plains; yet flocks of goats, together with a few cows, contrive to exist. It rains very seldom, but during a short portion of the year heavy torrents fall, and immediately afterwards a light vegetation springs out of every crevice. This soon withers; and upon such naturally formed hay the animals live. It had not now rained for an entire year. When the island was discovered, the immediate neighbourhood of Porto Praya was clothed with trees [note 1], the reckless destruction of which has caused here, as at St. Helena, and at some of the Canary islands, almost entire sterility. The broad, flat-bottomed valleys, many of which serve during a few days only in the season as water-courses, are clothed with thickets of leafless bushes. Few living creatures inhabit these valleys. The commonest bird is a kingfisher (Dacelo Iagoensis), which tamely sits on the branches of the castor- oil plant, and thence darts on grasshoppers and lizards. It is brightly coloured, but not so beautiful as the European species: in its flight, manners, and place of habitation, which is generally in the driest valley, there is also a wide difference.
One day, two of the officers and myself rode to Ribeira Grande, a village a few miles eastward of Porto Praya. Until we reached the valley of St. Martin, the country presented its usual dull brown appearance; but here, a very small rill of water produces a most refreshing margin of luxuriant vegetation. In the course of an hour we arrived at Ribeira Grande, and were surprised at the sight of a large ruined fort and cathedral. This little town, before its harbour was filled up, was the principal place in the island: it now presents a melancholy, but very picturesque appearance. Having procured a black Padre for a guide, and a Spaniard who had served in the Peninsular war as an interpreter, we visited a collection of buildings, of which an ancient church formed the principal part. It is here the governors and captain-generals of the islands have been buried. Some of the tombstones recorded dates of the sixteenth century [note 2].
The heraldic ornaments were the only things in this retired place that reminded us of Europe. The church or chapel formed one side of a quadrangle, in the middle of which a large clump of bananas were growing. On another side was a hospital, containing about a dozen miserable-looking inmates.
We returned to the Venda to eat our dinners. A considerable number of men, women, and children, all as black as jet, collected to watch us. Our companions were extremely merry; and everything we said or did was followed by their hearty laughter. Before leaving the town we visited the cathedral. It does not appear so rich as the smaller church, but boasts of a little organ, which sent forth singularly inharmonious cries. We presented the black priest with a few shillings, and the Spaniard, patting him on the head, said, with much candour, he thought his colour made no great difference. We then returned, as fast as the ponies would go, to Porto Praya.
Another day we rode to the village of St. Domingo, situated near the centre of the island. On a small plain which we crossed, a few stunted acacias were growing; their tops had been bent by the steady trade-wind, in a singular manner -- some of them even at right angles to their trunks. The direction of the branches was exactly N. E. by N., and S. W. by S., and these natural vanes must indicate the prevailing direction of the force of the trade-wind. The travelling had made so little impression on the barren soil, that we here missed our track, and took that to Fuentes. This we did not find out till we arrived there; and we were afterwards glad of our mistake. Fuentes is a pretty village, with a small stream; and everything appeared to prosper well, excepting, indeed, that which ought to do so most -- its inhabitants. The black children, completely naked, and looking very wretched, were carrying bundles of firewood half as big as their own bodies.
Near Fuentes we saw a large flock of guinea-fowl -- probably fifty or sixty in number. They were extremely wary, and could not be approached. They avoided us, like partridges on a rainy day in September, running with their heads cocked up; and if pursued, they readily took to the wing.
The scenery of St. Domingo possesses a beauty totally unexpected, from the prevalent gloomy character of the rest of the island. The village is situated at the bottom of a valley, bounded by lofty and jagged walls of stratified lava. The black rocks afford a most striking contrast with the bright green vegetation, which follows the banks of a little stream of clear water. It happened to be a grand feast-day, and the village was full of people. On our return we overtook a party of about twenty young black girls, dressed in excellent taste; their black skins and snow-white linen being set off by coloured turbans and large shawls. As soon as we approached near, they suddenly all turned round, and covering the path with their shawls, sung with great energy a wild song, beating time with their hands upon their legs. We threw them some vintems, which were received with screams of laughter, and we left them redoubling the noise of their song.
One morning the view was singularly clear; the distant mountains being projected with the sharpest outline on a heavy bank of dark blue clouds. Judging from the appearance, and from similar cases in England, I supposed that the air was saturated with moisture. The fact, however, turned out quite the contrary. The hygrometer gave a difference of 29.6 degs., between the temperature of the air, and the point at which dew was precipitated. This difference was nearly double that which I had observed on the previous mornings. This unusual degree of atmospheric dryness was accompanied by continual flashes of lightning. Is it not an uncommon case, thus to find a remarkable degree of aerial transparency with such a state of weather?
Generally the atmosphere is hazy; and this is caused by the falling of impalpably fine dust, which was found to have slightly injured the astronomical instruments. The morning before we anchored at Porto Praya, I collected a little packet of this brown-coloured fine dust, which appeared to have been filtered from the wind by the gauze of the vane at the masthead. Mr. Lyell has also given me four packets of dust which fell on a vessel a few hundred miles northward of these islands. Professor Ehrenberg [note 3] finds that this dust consists in great part of infusoria with siliceous shields, and of the siliceous tissue of plants. In five little packets which I sent him, he has ascertained no less than sixty-seven different organic forms! The infusoria, with the exception of two marine species, are all inhabitants of fresh-water. I have found no less than fifteen different accounts of dust having fallen on vessels when far out in the Atlantic. From the direction of the wind whenever it has fallen, and from its having always fallen during those months when the harmattan is known to raise clouds of dust high into the atmosphere, we may feel sure that it all comes from Africa. It is, however, a very singular fact, that, although Professor Ehrenberg knows many species of infusoria peculiar to Africa, he finds none of these in the dust which I sent him. On the other hand, he finds in it two species which hitherto he knows as living only in South America. The dust falls in such quantities as to dirty everything on board, and to hurt people's eyes; vessels even have run on shore owing to the obscurity of the atmosphere. It has often fallen on ships when several hundred, and even more than a thousand miles from the coast of Africa, and at points sixteen hundred miles distant in a north and south direction. In some dust which was collected on a vessel three hundred miles from the land, I was much surprised to find particles of stone above the thousandth of an inch square, mixed with finer matter. After this fact one need not be surprised at the diffusion of the far lighter and smaller sporules of cryptogamic plants. The geology of this island is the most interesting part of its natural history. On entering the harbour, a perfectly horizontal white band, in the face of the sea cliff, may be seen running for some miles along the coast, and at the height of about forty-five feet above the water. Upon examination this white stratum is found to consist of calcareous matter with numerous shells embedded, most or all of which now exist on the neighbouring coast. It rests on ancient volcanic rocks, and has been covered by a stream of basalt, which must have entered the sea when the white shelly bed was lying at the bottom. It is interesting to trace the changes produced by the heat of the overlying lava, on the friable mass, which in parts has been converted into a crystalline limestone, and in other parts into a compact spotted stone Where the lime has been caught up by the scoriaceous fragments of the lower surface of the stream, it is converted into groups of beautifully radiated fibres resembling arragonite. The beds of lava rise in successive gently-sloping plains, towards the interior, whence the deluges of melted stone have originally proceeded. Within historical times, no signs of volcanic activity have, I believe, been manifested in any part of St. Jago. Even the form of a crater can but rarely be discovered on the summits of the many red cindery hills; yet the more recent streams can be distinguished on the coast, forming lines of cliffs of less height, but stretching out in advance of those belonging to an older series: the height of the cliffs thus affording a rude measure of the age of the streams.
The neighbourhood of Porto Praya, viewed from the sea, wears a desolate aspect. The volcanic fires of a past age, and the scorching heat of a tropical sun, have in most places rendered the soil unfit for vegetation. The country rises in successive steps of table-land, interspersed with some truncate conical hills, and the horizon is bounded by an irregular chain of more lofty mountains. The scene, as beheld through the hazy atmosphere of this climate, is one of great interest; if, indeed, a person, fresh from sea, and who has just walked, for the first time, in a grove of cocoa-nut trees, can be a judge of anything but his own happiness. The island would generally be considered as very uninteresting, but to anyone accustomed only to an English landscape, the novel aspect of an utterly sterile land possesses a grandeur which more vegetation might spoil. A single green leaf can scarcely be discovered over wide tracts of the lava plains; yet flocks of goats, together with a few cows, contrive to exist. It rains very seldom, but during a short portion of the year heavy torrents fall, and immediately afterwards a light vegetation springs out of every crevice. This soon withers; and upon such naturally formed hay the animals live. It had not now rained for an entire year. When the island was discovered, the immediate neighbourhood of Porto Praya was clothed with trees [note 1], the reckless destruction of which has caused here, as at St. Helena, and at some of the Canary islands, almost entire sterility. The broad, flat-bottomed valleys, many of which serve during a few days only in the season as water-courses, are clothed with thickets of leafless bushes. Few living creatures inhabit these valleys. The commonest bird is a kingfisher (Dacelo Iagoensis), which tamely sits on the branches of the castor- oil plant, and thence darts on grasshoppers and lizards. It is brightly coloured, but not so beautiful as the European species: in its flight, manners, and place of habitation, which is generally in the driest valley, there is also a wide difference.
One day, two of the officers and myself rode to Ribeira Grande, a village a few miles eastward of Porto Praya. Until we reached the valley of St. Martin, the country presented its usual dull brown appearance; but here, a very small rill of water produces a most refreshing margin of luxuriant vegetation. In the course of an hour we arrived at Ribeira Grande, and were surprised at the sight of a large ruined fort and cathedral. This little town, before its harbour was filled up, was the principal place in the island: it now presents a melancholy, but very picturesque appearance. Having procured a black Padre for a guide, and a Spaniard who had served in the Peninsular war as an interpreter, we visited a collection of buildings, of which an ancient church formed the principal part. It is here the governors and captain-generals of the islands have been buried. Some of the tombstones recorded dates of the sixteenth century [note 2].
The heraldic ornaments were the only things in this retired place that reminded us of Europe. The church or chapel formed one side of a quadrangle, in the middle of which a large clump of bananas were growing. On another side was a hospital, containing about a dozen miserable-looking inmates.
We returned to the Venda to eat our dinners. A considerable number of men, women, and children, all as black as jet, collected to watch us. Our companions were extremely merry; and everything we said or did was followed by their hearty laughter. Before leaving the town we visited the cathedral. It does not appear so rich as the smaller church, but boasts of a little organ, which sent forth singularly inharmonious cries. We presented the black priest with a few shillings, and the Spaniard, patting him on the head, said, with much candour, he thought his colour made no great difference. We then returned, as fast as the ponies would go, to Porto Praya.
Another day we rode to the village of St. Domingo, situated near the centre of the island. On a small plain which we crossed, a few stunted acacias were growing; their tops had been bent by the steady trade-wind, in a singular manner -- some of them even at right angles to their trunks. The direction of the branches was exactly N. E. by N., and S. W. by S., and these natural vanes must indicate the prevailing direction of the force of the trade-wind. The travelling had made so little impression on the barren soil, that we here missed our track, and took that to Fuentes. This we did not find out till we arrived there; and we were afterwards glad of our mistake. Fuentes is a pretty village, with a small stream; and everything appeared to prosper well, excepting, indeed, that which ought to do so most -- its inhabitants. The black children, completely naked, and looking very wretched, were carrying bundles of firewood half as big as their own bodies.
Near Fuentes we saw a large flock of guinea-fowl -- probably fifty or sixty in number. They were extremely wary, and could not be approached. They avoided us, like partridges on a rainy day in September, running with their heads cocked up; and if pursued, they readily took to the wing.
The scenery of St. Domingo possesses a beauty totally unexpected, from the prevalent gloomy character of the rest of the island. The village is situated at the bottom of a valley, bounded by lofty and jagged walls of stratified lava. The black rocks afford a most striking contrast with the bright green vegetation, which follows the banks of a little stream of clear water. It happened to be a grand feast-day, and the village was full of people. On our return we overtook a party of about twenty young black girls, dressed in excellent taste; their black skins and snow-white linen being set off by coloured turbans and large shawls. As soon as we approached near, they suddenly all turned round, and covering the path with their shawls, sung with great energy a wild song, beating time with their hands upon their legs. We threw them some vintems, which were received with screams of laughter, and we left them redoubling the noise of their song.
One morning the view was singularly clear; the distant mountains being projected with the sharpest outline on a heavy bank of dark blue clouds. Judging from the appearance, and from similar cases in England, I supposed that the air was saturated with moisture. The fact, however, turned out quite the contrary. The hygrometer gave a difference of 29.6 degs., between the temperature of the air, and the point at which dew was precipitated. This difference was nearly double that which I had observed on the previous mornings. This unusual degree of atmospheric dryness was accompanied by continual flashes of lightning. Is it not an uncommon case, thus to find a remarkable degree of aerial transparency with such a state of weather?
Generally the atmosphere is hazy; and this is caused by the falling of impalpably fine dust, which was found to have slightly injured the astronomical instruments. The morning before we anchored at Porto Praya, I collected a little packet of this brown-coloured fine dust, which appeared to have been filtered from the wind by the gauze of the vane at the masthead. Mr. Lyell has also given me four packets of dust which fell on a vessel a few hundred miles northward of these islands. Professor Ehrenberg [note 3] finds that this dust consists in great part of infusoria with siliceous shields, and of the siliceous tissue of plants. In five little packets which I sent him, he has ascertained no less than sixty-seven different organic forms! The infusoria, with the exception of two marine species, are all inhabitants of fresh-water. I have found no less than fifteen different accounts of dust having fallen on vessels when far out in the Atlantic. From the direction of the wind whenever it has fallen, and from its having always fallen during those months when the harmattan is known to raise clouds of dust high into the atmosphere, we may feel sure that it all comes from Africa. It is, however, a very singular fact, that, although Professor Ehrenberg knows many species of infusoria peculiar to Africa, he finds none of these in the dust which I sent him. On the other hand, he finds in it two species which hitherto he knows as living only in South America. The dust falls in such quantities as to dirty everything on board, and to hurt people's eyes; vessels even have run on shore owing to the obscurity of the atmosphere. It has often fallen on ships when several hundred, and even more than a thousand miles from the coast of Africa, and at points sixteen hundred miles distant in a north and south direction. In some dust which was collected on a vessel three hundred miles from the land, I was much surprised to find particles of stone above the thousandth of an inch square, mixed with finer matter. After this fact one need not be surprised at the diffusion of the far lighter and smaller sporules of cryptogamic plants. The geology of this island is the most interesting part of its natural history. On entering the harbour, a perfectly horizontal white band, in the face of the sea cliff, may be seen running for some miles along the coast, and at the height of about forty-five feet above the water. Upon examination this white stratum is found to consist of calcareous matter with numerous shells embedded, most or all of which now exist on the neighbouring coast. It rests on ancient volcanic rocks, and has been covered by a stream of basalt, which must have entered the sea when the white shelly bed was lying at the bottom. It is interesting to trace the changes produced by the heat of the overlying lava, on the friable mass, which in parts has been converted into a crystalline limestone, and in other parts into a compact spotted stone Where the lime has been caught up by the scoriaceous fragments of the lower surface of the stream, it is converted into groups of beautifully radiated fibres resembling arragonite. The beds of lava rise in successive gently-sloping plains, towards the interior, whence the deluges of melted stone have originally proceeded. Within historical times, no signs of volcanic activity have, I believe, been manifested in any part of St. Jago. Even the form of a crater can but rarely be discovered on the summits of the many red cindery hills; yet the more recent streams can be distinguished on the coast, forming lines of cliffs of less height, but stretching out in advance of those belonging to an older series: the height of the cliffs thus affording a rude measure of the age of the streams.
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That sound from the inner darkness is a little more closely akin to hacking up a hair ball than dignified hissing and growling.
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