Evolution is proven false!

[SkyWriting]

Whether you pray to a deity, or a jug of milk.

At first glance. But in action the result is quite different.
As long as your need is real and not superfluous, you will
actually get what is needed the very instant that you
surrender the need and stop "asking".

It's a very difficult task to have a need and surrender the
need as well. But the results are amazing to watch.

The jug of milk...not so much.

 

[SkyWriting]

Does it matter what you believe?

It is critical. You have no future with some beliefs.
With others, an eternity of benefits.

 

[JacksBratt]

If it is false, then it is a lie. Do you disagree?

I agree. However, in our scenario we presented both possibilities, if it was true or false, did I not?

The burden of proof, in this case, is on you to prove it is untruth if you want to call it a lie.

There are very, very few active biologists (doing research) who are YECs. That is the reality. Look at the people who are members of the ICR or AIG. Do they do actual research? For the most part, no.



Not really. It is very hard to be someone actively doing research in either biology or geology who is a YEC. The evidence you find just doesn't match up with YEC dogma. That is why most creationists with degrees in biology or geology don't do scientific research... they preach to their followers and do apologetics instead. There are exceptions, but they are few.

You use the fact that there are FEW as a meaningful fact. In all actuality, the number of biologists and or geologists that follow a certain belief has absolutely no bearing on the credibility of the belief.

What evidence that contradicts it? Show it to me.

Evidence against Evolution (concise and short)

Why does reality contradict your religious dogma if it represents the truth?

Because your reality is fabricated by the masses that propagate the lie of the TOE. They are duped by the greatest deceiver of the universe, Satan, and have swallowed it hook, line, and sinker.

 

[SkyWriting]

But Satan allows for the science of semiconductors to proceed so that you personally can get on the internet to tell us all of the Satan-created conspiracy that buries the truth that the theory of evolution is actually wildly inaccurate, which it needs to be for your beliefs to be true.

Amiright?

No. Satan is a destroyer. He helps the hackers not the engineers.....except
to the extent he allows the engineers to create things he can later destroy.

 

[JacksBratt]

Sorry but this is absolute garbage. I am a scientists. I would know.


Nothing but assertion and rhetoric based on your religious dogma... which I am sure, you never question.

Condescension, Sneers, and Outright Misrepresentations of Intelligent Design Pass For Scholarship in <i>Synthese</i> - Evolution News & Views

The scientific community is at war with the creationist camp and, with their position of power stop at nothing to keep the YEC scientists at bay using condensation, bullying, and threats of discredit.

 

[JacksBratt]

But Satan allows for the science of semiconductors to proceed so that you personally can get on the internet to tell us all of the Satan-created conspiracy that buries the truth that the theory of evolution is actually wildly inaccurate, which it needs to be for your beliefs to be true.

Amiright?

Satan allows only what God allows him to. God created all science and the laws that define it. Satan tells you just enough truth to cover his lie. Satan had nothing to do with the creation and functional properties of semiconductors.

 

[SkyWriting]

Condescension, Sneers, and Outright Misrepresentations of Intelligent Design Pass For Scholarship in <i>Synthese</i> - Evolution News & Views

The scientific community is at war with the creationist camp and, with their position of power stop at nothing to keep the YEC scientists at bay using condensation, bullying, and threats of discredit.

And this has nothing to do with any true concern for their field of work. Nay sayers are a normal part of the job and challenging of theories is actually the only way for science to proceed.

This is strictly a spiritual war.

 

[SkyWriting]

So the results from prayer are no different to not praying at all. Some people will get worse, some will get better and some will die.

When you pray for others, the results can be very dramatic...for you.
God does not appreciate being tested though, so all tests are non-conclusive.
If you are looking to see how much man can influence God, the results will
always be zero. That's all we need is the Pope directing God what to do.

 

[Mr Strawberry]

At first glance. But in action the result is quite different.
As long as your need is real and not superfluous, you will
actually get what is needed the very instant that you
surrender the need and stop "asking".

It's a very difficult task to have a need and surrender the
need as well. But the results are amazing to watch.

The jug of milk...not so much.

Did any of these people "get what is needed", or were their prayers as useful as imploring a milk jug to save them?

Poverty.com - Hunger and World Poverty

...which in their case would be an empty milk jug.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

Did any of these people <edit>

No-one can possibly know every story, every heart, every life. Very often the stories that mean anything are only told long after terrible catastrophes.

The reality is that we are all tossed into this hot place, and I've yet to read a cogent argument that makes total sense of suffering and evil -- here or in the supposed next event.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Satan allows only what God allows him to.

Satan gets His orders from God.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

Satan gets His orders from God.

That idea is extracted from a poem about a man called Job. If it's a theological constant, who can say? Who can even accurately say if there is this mythical super-crone -- it's more likely that he's some diminutive lower ranking ex-angel. Some assume he was a BIG OLD powerful arch-angel or guard of the Shekinah* -- but it's a matter of theological speculation and spurious verse choices.



---
* Shekhinah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Mr Strawberry]

No-one can possibly know every story, every heart, every life. Very often the stories that mean anything are only told long after terrible catastrophes.

Well, the bottom line is, does any child deserve to die of a poverty related illness? And the only sane answer is 'no'. However, some whacky believers will try and persuade you otherwise.

The reality is that we are all tossed into this hot place, and I've yet to read a cogent argument that makes total sense of suffering and evil -- here or in the supposed next event.

Actually, the only scenario that makes complete sense of it is what I suppose you'd call the naturalistic explanation. It may not do much in the warm and fuzzy stakes, but it fits completely with what we observe, which isn't surprising because observation was how it was arrived at.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

Well, the bottom line is, does any child deserve to die of a poverty related illness? And the only sane answer is 'no'. However, some whacky believers will try and persuade you otherwise.

There are some days when I feel the weight of these words, more than others.
The simple answer is that no-one should die, but this is the dying zone -- until we figure out a way to stay-off our worst enemy. We suffer loss by the hand of friends, foes and people we've never met.
Innocents are killed in the wars we fight, both out there on in the war zone and in the home. It's full scale physical war -- be it bombers or some crazy kid who steals Dad's hunting rifle and shoots the next door neighbors cat!!!
We can blame whoever we want to, but it always comes back to us.
GK Chesterton got that one dead right!

Actually, the only scenario that makes complete sense of it is what I suppose you'd call the naturalistic explanation. It may not do much in the warm and fuzzy stakes, but it fits completely with what we observe, which isn't surprising because observation was how it was arrived at.

I dunno -- there is a hollow thump about it, that fails to answer a question that is genuinely addressed in the account of one apocalyptic prophet (some say legend) who apparently has figured out a way to reverse the situation by making all our problems his solitary mission. I dunno what you think of Jesus, but that's where I have laid my hat -- until someone can show that he was no-one unique.

 

[bhsmte]

Oh good grief!

So the results from prayer are no different to not praying at all. Some people will get worse, some will get better and some will die.

As George Carlin put it; if it's God's will, then why bother praying in the first place?

 

[SkyWriting]

As George Carlin put it; if it's God's will, then why bother praying in the first place?

Because it changes the person who prays.
The results are proven to be dramatic.
George may have a new opinion today.

 

[SkyWriting]

There are some days when I feel the weight of these words, more than others.
The simple answer is that no-one should die, but this is the dying zone

Everyone deserves to die.
A much easier stand to defend.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Because it changes the person who prays.
The results are proven to be dramatic.
George may have a new opinion today.

So prayer isn't about God, it's about the person doing it?

 

[bhsmte]

Because it changes the person who prays.
The results are proven to be dramatic.
George may have a new opinion today.

Praying does have a psychological impact on a person, I would agree, which is completely independent on any results from praying.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

Everyone deserves to die.
A much easier stand to defend.

Perhaps for you.