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Evolution is just a theory!

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You're right, that's not a product of your imagination.



"Rewrote"? Now you're once again producing the product of your imagination.



The fact there were evil people living during Jesus' day is not surprising. I really don't see your point here.



There's no supporting evidence, based on the scientific method, for Darwinist evolution. None.



Again, a baseless claim. You'll have to prove that they "distorted their history" instead of just offering your opinion that they did.

There is plenty of evidence for evolution but when your mind is seared by the indoctrination of Bible worship you aren't allowed to think outside of the Bible bubble. You have been trained to feel guilty and lacking faith if you question the Bible.

There is certainly no evidence for the exaggerations of the Bible, NONE!
 
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There is plenty of evidence for evolution

You keep making these worthless claims with no support. There is no evidence, none, for Darwinist evolution. Simply saying "there is plenty of evidence for evolution" are just empty words.

but when your mind is seared by the indoctrination of Bible worship you aren't allowed to think outside of the Bible bubble. You have been trained to feel guilty and lacking faith if you question the Bible.

Is that what the Urantia book teaches? Are you into Urantia worship?

There is certainly no evidence for the exaggerations of the Bible, NONE!

What exaggerations?
 
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Not sure what the weather has to do with anything ...
Is that how you see it?

Just the weather?

All you see is what meets the eye.

You're not looking "under the hood," so to speak, are you?
Colter said:
... but the Urantia revelation revealed much more about the Lucifer rebellion ...
What does the Lucifer rebellion have to do with calling the Holy Spirit a "Thought Adjuster"?
 
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You keep making these worthless claims with no support. There is no evidence, none, for Darwinist evolution. Simply saying "there is plenty of evidence for evolution" are just empty words.



Is that what the Urantia book teaches? Are you into Urantia worship?



What exaggerations?

The simple proofs are the Age of the solar system, the age of the earth within the solar system, the geological history of the earth, the many layers of life that lived over many ages that are preserved in the geological record. Genesis makes no claim to have been written by God, the church government makes that claim.

Even though Biblical criticism is a relatively young discipline as the disgraceful church used to kill, torture and silence critics up until we had enough of that, we have known for a long time that the books were redacted and edited by multiple unnamed authors. But bible worshipers are not allowed to admit that.

Urantia is the heavenly name for the earth, no, I don't worship the earth.
 
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Is that how you see it?

Just the weather?

All you see is what meets the eye.

You're not looking "under the hood," so to speak, are you?
What does the Lucifer rebellion have to do with calling the Holy Spirit a "Thought Adjuster"?

The Lucifer rebellion doesn't have anything to do with calling the Holy Sprit a thought Adjuster. The Holy Spirt and God the Father are not the same. The TA's are the will of God in the heart of man. When man seeks guidance from the Father it is the thought adjuster that reciprocates.

I see the stupid exaggeration of the Hebrew redactors that had God in a [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]ing match with Pharaohs Gods, then killing every other kid, silly plagues, walls of water parting with Pharaoh going between them to retrieve some slaves, and on and on and on. All sorts of contradictions and outright porkies.
 
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[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]
Dear me!

Those Thought Adjusters have been working overtime on you, haven't they! :eek:
 
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Do me a favor, will you, Colter?

Type "The Blood of Christ".

I just want to see if you can.

"The Blood of Christ"

The Blood of Christ came about as the result of rejecting the original, pre-cross gospel of Jesus, a gospel that the Jews would be teaching today from Jerusalem had they not rejected the gospel and killed Jesus.

In the aftermath of the original gospel's rejection, the Pagan world was found to be open to the new post-cross gospel of Peter and Paul in that the Pagan world already had beliefs about human/divine sacrifice, flesh eating and blood drinking.





"The barbarous idea of appeasing an angry God, of propitiating an offended Lord, of winning the favor of Deity through sacrifices and penance and even by the shedding of blood, represents a religion wholly puerile and primitive, a philosophy unworthy of an enlightened age of science and truth. Such beliefs are utterly repulsive to the celestial beings and the divine rulers who serve and reign in the universes. It is an affront to God to believe, hold, or teach that innocent blood must be shed in order to win his favor or to divert the fictitious divine wrath.

The Hebrews believed that "without the shedding of blood there could be no remission of sin." They had not found deliverance from the old and pagan idea that the Gods could not be appeased except by the sight of blood, though Moses did make a distinct advance when he forbade human sacrifices and substituted therefor, in the primitive minds of his childlike Bedouin followers, the ceremonial sacrifice of animals." UB 1955
 
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Thank you, sir!

Just checking.

You are welcome, now, can you reciprocate in kind and type: "They had not found deliverance from the old and pagan idea that the Gods could not be appeased except by the sight of blood" ? Thanks in advance.
 
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You are welcome, now, can you reciprocate in kind and type: "They had not found deliverance from the old and pagan idea that the Gods could not be appeased except by the sight of blood" ? Thanks in advance.
Sure.

Ephesians 1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
 
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6. "The personal viewpoint of Paul of Tarsus. And it should be recorded that Mithraism was the dominant religion of Tarsus during his adolescence. Paul little dreamed that his well-intentioned letters to his converts would someday be regarded by still later Christians as the "word of God." Such well-meaning teachers must not be held accountable for the use made of their writings by later-day successors." UB1955
 
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As I understand it, theories today are not like theories of yesteryear.

Really? How about heliocentrism. That is pretty much the same as when Kepler found that planets move by elliptical orbits. Boyle's theories of gasses -- known as Boyle's Law -- is the same as it was 300 years ago.

Ever since the scientific method came out, theories have gotten a lot stronger, or have disappeared by way of exosure to being false.

Thus they were never really theories in the first place.

Ah! There's the mistake. You think theories are only the currently supported theories. No. Theories don't stop being theories because they are falsified. Geocentrism is still a theory. Proteins as the hereditary material is still a theory. Flood geology is still a theory. It was the accepted theory until 1790. Then it was in doubt for the next 40 years as more and more falsifying evidence was found. By 1831 it was a falsified theories.

Falsified theories/hypotheses don't stop being theories. They just move from the relatively short list of currently valid hypotheses/theories to the very long lists of falsified theories.

So, it's not that it is the "only surviving theory" -- it's that there were never any other theories to contest it in the first place.

As I told you, special creation was the accepted scientific theory until about 1850. Even Lyell was a special creationist.
In Volume II of his Principles of Geology (1830) Lyell talked about transformation of species and specifically about Lamarck.
"Each species 'was endowed at the time of its creation, with the attributes of organization by which it is now distinguished." Only limited variations within a type have ever occurred. Each species, itself immutable, probably takes its origin from a single pair, such pairs having "been created in succession at such times and in such places as to enable them to multiply and endure for an appointed period, and occupy an appointed place on the globe." CC Gillespie, Genesis and Geology 130-131.

So there you have the competing theory: Special Creation with species remaining constant thereafter. Notice Lyell is holding out for "successive creations" over time, instead of a single universal creative event.

That is the theory that contested evolution. If you would ever read Origin of Species, you will see that, in several places, Darwin is arguing against that theory. The data and arguments succeeded in falsifying Special Creation. That doesn't stop it from being a scientific theory. It just means it is now a falsified theory.

In the 1982 MacLean vs Arkansas trial, the state (arguing for teaching creationism) brought Dr. Wickmarasinge to testify. Wickmarasinge, along with Dr. Fred Hoyle, had a theory called "panspermia"
"pan·sper·mi·a
panˈspərmēə/
noun
the theory that life on the earth originated from microorganisms or chemical precursors of life present in outer space and able to initiate life on reaching a suitable environment."

Wickmarasinge and Hoyle theorized that panspermia not only explained the origin of life, but that, from time to time, new organisms arrived from space and these new organisms integrated into existing species, the new DNA providing the instructions for new forms of life, i.e dinosaurs and mammals. New DNA sequencing of large stretches of DNA and entire genomes have falsified the theory.

So even as late as 1982 there was a competitor for common ancestry.
 
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Even if they weren't, people are being born with genetic disorders.

Yet in Genesis 1, the gene pool was at its purest.

So what does that tell you happened between Genesis 1 and now?
What is the evidence that the gene pool in Genesis 1 was the "purest"? It says nothing about this in scripture. God did say creation was "very good", but that is a long way from saying "perfect". In fact, where in scripture does it talk at all about the human gene pool?

BTW, AV, congratulations on admitting there are 2 different creation stories! In order to have a "gene pool", you need many more than 2 individuals. And yes, Genesis 1 states that men and women, both plural, were created at the same time. However, Genesis 2 has only a single male and a single female. It could be progress on your part, but I suspect it is rationalization: pick and choose to fit the argument you are making at the time.
 
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The simple proofs are the Age of the solar system, the age of the earth within the solar system, the geological history of the earth, the many layers of life that lived over many ages that are preserved in the geological record. Genesis makes no claim to have been written by God, the church government makes that claim.

You didn't address the issue of the 'how' of Darwinist evolution which claims that a willy-nilly process produced all life we observe on earth today. You have no evidence for such a view, therefore you ignore your inability to provide proof.

Even though Biblical criticism is a relatively young discipline as the disgraceful church used to kill, torture and silence critics up until we had enough of that, we have known for a long time that the books were redacted and edited by multiple unnamed authors. But bible worshipers are not allowed to admit that.

Your claim is supported by nothing but your own fertile imagination.

Urantia is the heavenly name for the earth, no, I don't worship the earth.

If you go back and read my post, you'll find I referred to the Urantia book....which you apparently worship.
 
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