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Remember, no flood, so nothing to impress me here as far as that goes. Seriously, combined with the excess of rotting material, the only things in the water that would likely survive is bacteria, making the oceans into a festering mess of biohazard.

Probably not. Quick beer math gives me about 1Kg of biomass per square meter of surface area for the earth. Only a small fraction of that will be animal mass. Dilute that through a water column and you can see how much of a non issue it would be. One big thing to consider is how much water you would need to add to flood the earth. Seriously, orders of magnitude more water than exists on earth as I recall.
 
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there is also the phenomonon of cities sinking ie. Atlantis. This give me the idea that perhaps there was more than an axis shift but even a relocation of poles as well resulting in an entirely different world map.

Alright. I have to ask.

Do you think Atlantis was a real place?
 
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But they DID survive (well some anyway) - amazing eh?

And the ice at the South Pole survived, as did the ice at Greenland.

Now THAT was . . . not going to happen in a global flood. So the global flood didn't happen.
 
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[serious];65830404 said:
Probably not. Quick beer math gives me about 1Kg of biomass per square meter of surface area for the earth. Only a small fraction of that will be animal mass. Dilute that through a water column and you can see how much of a non issue it would be. One big thing to consider is how much water you would need to add to flood the earth. Seriously, orders of magnitude more water than exists on earth as I recall.

Of course many Flood advocates try to claim all fossils are from the Flood.

Fossils are a HUGE problem for Flood advocates. If there was a Flood today the result would be a thin veneer of fossils. There is not very much life on the surface of the Earth at any one point in time. In fact even if by some miracle no life decayed after death there still would not be enough time for there to have all of the fossil life we see build up in the short history of the Earth that they believe in.

It was fairly obvious to even the Earliest of geologists that there was no Flood. And they tended to be pro-Flood before they started to look for evidence for the Flood.
 
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Of course many Flood advocates try to claim all fossils are from the Flood.

Fossils are a HUGE problem for Flood advocates. If there was a Flood today the result would be a thin veneer of fossils. There is not very much life on the surface of the Earth at any one point in time. In fact even if by some miracle no life decayed after death there still would not be enough time for there to have all of the fossil life we see build up in the short history of the Earth that they believe in.

It was fairly obvious to even the Earliest of geologists that there was no Flood. And they tended to be pro-Flood before they started to look for evidence for the Flood.

I was initially wondering if the density of fossils would really be a problem, then I remembered limestone.
 
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The "Cambrian" layer is a good pointer to a global flood as it is seen worldwide with the same fossil characteristics.

So is the KT boundary layer, with all that iridium. It's also seen worldwide and is associated with the same kinds of fossils. Is that also evidence of a global flood? Was it a different flood, or did the one flood just last a really long time?
 
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Probably not. Quick beer math gives me about 1Kg of biomass per square meter of surface area for the earth. Only a small fraction of that will be animal mass. Dilute that through a water column and you can see how much of a non issue it would be. One big thing to consider is how much water you would need to add to flood the earth. Seriously, orders of magnitude more water than exists on earth as I recall.

Ocean currents unfortunately would make areas of absolute festering mass, while leaving other places bare.
 
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I have no more knowledge than just reading general press. I though I remember seeing something about a sunken city in the mediterranian.

There's a a fair few sunken archaeological sites. Off the coast of England, in the Mediterranean etc... Its a pretty interesting area of archaeology.
 
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So is the KT boundary layer, with all that iridium. It's also seen worldwide and is associated with the same kinds of fossils. Is that also evidence of a global flood? Was it a different flood, or did the one flood just last a really long time?
There could only possibly be one global flood and here seems no tangible evidence that it lasted more than 1 year
 
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There could only possibly be one global flood and here seems no tangible evidence that it lasted more than 1 year

There seems to be no tangible evidence that one lasted for less than a year, either.
 
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There could only possibly be one global flood and here seems no tangible evidence that it lasted more than 1 year

No.

You would have to explain where the water came from and where it went to and why there is no evidence of that flood.
 
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