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Well, you may consider yourself an ape. I'm not an ape. There are differences that make people unique amongst God's creation. Spoken language is just one.It's unclear exactly when language developed among hominids, but today only one ape species has spoken language--homo sapiens.
-CryptoLutheran
Well, you may consider yourself an ape. I'm not an ape. There are differences that make people unique amongst God's creation. Spoken language is just one.
Abysmally opposed to the blind faith bullies of macro-evolution actually.
Well, you may consider yourself an ape. I'm not an ape.
There are differences that make people unique amongst God's creation. Spoken language is just one.
This would make god a liar, god probably couldn't make adam be more then look like he was older, but there be no reason to create the entire universe looking like it's billions of years old, putting fossils in the ground making it look billions of years, put oil limestone and such that take millions of years to form. there are things in the universe and earth that would have to be lies to be there.
Your genes say otherwise.
Humans share 90% of their genes with Abyssinian cats. Also, 85% with mice, 80% with cows and 60% with a banana. My genes say that I'm bananas and that I love cats. Now I'm not sure if I should eat beef. Would that be a kind of cannibalism? Does the same apply to bananas? Or is it only 60% cannibalism, so I'm excused? I'm not about to eat a mouse, so that's irrelevant.
yeah, a lot of the genes we have are what control cells and what not, of course we would expect there to be similarities, funny of course that the amount of differences tend to line up with how distant we are from them evolutionary. And before you say, "Same design, same designer." you also have to explain the similarities that are not required, like having genes for things animals don't use and don't make much sense without being related.
Yep. It's a little hard to figure out why a "designer" would fit us out with a gene for making vitamin C, but made it broken so it doesn't work.
But if a Creator made us to evolve into a species that normally gets all the vitamin C we need from our food, that makes perfect sense.
We aren't the products of some little "designer"; we are the creatures of the all-powerful God.
well I've heard the vitamin c argued to be from the fall, but better example are things like the protein found in apes that makes their jaw strength more then ours, but it also determines how strongly the muscle tightens the skull, allowing for less brain capacity, and speech is harder. Or dolphins that don't use air scent having a huge portion of their genome devoted to it.
I liken it to a ford car being built with all the parts from a ford truck, just the parts not used are welded to the undercarriage and such.
Yes, stuff like that. The myostatin gene keeps us remarkably weak for a primate. Chimps, while much smaller than humans, are about twice as strong as most humans. There are examples of mutations of this gene in humans; such people are much stronger than normal. And there's a least one human who is the child of two olympic athletes, both with the mutation. Last I read, he was an incredibly strong baby. At that time, there seemed to be no adverse consequences.
I tend to think the "weaker muscles/larger cranium" hypothesis is wrong; as D'Arcy Thompson noted over a century ago, allometric growth leading to relatively smaller face and jaws, and relatively larger crania seems to adequately explain our differences with other apes WRT the skull. Possibly a single gene could mediate such a change:
Your "unused parts" notion would apply to things like wisdom teeth (now apparently becoming less common in humans) and the vestigial appendix. The appendix is vestigial because it no longer serves as a digestive organ, but does have a function as a refuge for symbiotic bacteria, and manufacture of some leukocytes.
I kinda like the gene examples as it's not just something that they can argue has another use. Genes that are deactivated have zero use for any form Like the gene I mentioned if it is the cause of the large brain, *just saying IF it is* are creationists going to argue that we were dumber in the past? Or what about the dolphins, it's easy to explain them having scent genes as they have ancestors on earth, what is the reason for them being there if they never lived on land heh.
Yes. Some damaged genes might have evolved functions other than protein synthesis, just as non-coding DNA sometimes mutates to form a useful new gene. And yes, olfactory genes for dolphins as well as genes for hind legs remind us that they evolved from land animals. Sometimes rear limb genes actually get expressed:
well not sure about dolphins, but whales they will argue it's for mating heh.
It is true that very few dolphins have trouble mating, even without rear limbs. Dolphins generally, are enthusiastic and frequent copulators.
And modern whales do quite well without rear legs. One transitional whale, Basilosaurus, did have vestigial legs repurposed for mating. Some whales have vestigial legs that are now entirely enclosed in the body, which seem to have no function at all. As you probably know, "vestigial" does not mean "useless"; many times (as Darwin pointed out) vestigial organs can evolve a different purpose, even if some do not.
I don't understand what you are getting at. Adam fell first, then creation followed.You are not paying attention. It doesn't matter even if we are evolved. The soul of man didn't enter this fallen reality until original sin.
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