Evolution and the myth of "scientific consensus"

[HitchSlap]

Sure, but I'm only here for the lulz.

Indeed.

 

[bhsmte]

Nah. Movin' on.

How is design anything other than illusion, again?

Good call, reviewing this thread would be the equivalent of sticking needles in your eyes.

 

[HitchSlap]

A few creationists, in a flurry of internet forum posts, take down modern science.

Film at 11.

Lead article next issue SciAm!
"Cdesign proponentsists topple ToE with illusion hypothesis"

 

[Davian]

Good advice when playing chess with pigeons.

yup thats a pigeon

• Davian
• Mar 8, 2012

 

[Smidlee]

Demonstrate that that this "design" is intended, actual design.

Or, dodge, and confirm that you cannot.

I'm not the one who claiming design in nature is an illusion. I wrote if you want to believe designs in nature is an illusion it's impossible to prove to you otherwise. So I agree I can't prove to a hyperskeptic that design in nature is real or anything else about the outside world.
Designs in nature is part of the universe we live in.

 

[Oncedeceived]

From what I have observed, cdesign proponetists are never done.

It seems this proves the opposite.

 

[Oncedeceived]

yup thats a pigeon

• Davian
• Mar 8, 2012

No it is just an illusion like everything else materialists believe.

 

[Loudmouth]

Do you know that your parents didn't create you?

Then I take it you haven't learned about the birds and the bees. Your parents would be the ones to talk to about this.

And mutations are those thingies which randomly created tactile sensory units?

Already have several threads available to you to discuss the topic.

 

[Loudmouth]

No it is just an illusion like everything else materialists believe.

So you are saying that the duckies in clouds are not illusions?

 

[Loudmouth]

Duckies in clouds keep you alive?

Are these alive?

When humans design, are the designs alive?

 

[Oncedeceived]

So you are saying that the duckies in clouds are not illusions?

I don't believe in ducks made from clouds. Evidence shows that ducks are actually made up of more than water vapor. Having evidence of what ducks are in reality and what a pattern in the sky is I can correctly conclude that duckies in clouds are an illusion.

 

[Loudmouth]

I don't believe in ducks made from clouds.

So it is just an illusion?

 

[justlookinla]

Then I take it you haven't learned about the birds and the bees. Your parents would be the ones to talk to about this.

Birds and bees didn't create me. Describe the process your parents used to create you during the months from conception to birth. That should be interesting.

 

[Davian]

I'm not the one who claiming design in nature is an illusion.

I am not the one claiming is cannot be otherwise.

I wrote if you want to believe designs in nature is an illusion it's impossible to prove to you otherwise.

I know. Yet you, Once, and Justa continue to demand that negative be proven. I'm just curious to see if this realization ever happens on your part.

So I agree I can't prove to a hyperskeptic that design in nature is real or anything else about the outside world.

Personally, I do not see credulousness as a virtue.

Designs in nature is part of the universe we live in.

It may appear that way to some, but the burden is on them to demonstrate that there is intent to this alleged design, and/or an intelligence behind it.

You admit you have nothing. OnceD abdicated. What will Justa do?

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." —Winston Churchill

 

[Davian]

It seems this proves the opposite.

I dunno. How many years have you been at this, with no results?

 

[Davian]

No it is just an illusion like everything else materialists believe.

You have a poor track record of describing what others believe.

 

[Smidlee]

It may appear that way to some, but the burden is on them to demonstrate that there is intent to this alleged design, and/or an intelligence behind it.

You admit you have nothing. OnceD abdicated. What will Justa do?

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." —Winston Churchill

There is a field of science that studies design in nature to improve man-made design including improvement in computers by studying physical brains. Design in nature is not questioned and is part of nature which is part of the universe. There is no evidence that design in nature is an illusion any more than human designs are illusions.

This is why Dawkins is smart enough to know in order to be taken seriously he can't deny he "sees" design in nature but the only way around a designer is to claim he is seeing an illusion created by evolution to help pass on his genes.

 

[Loudmouth]

Birds and bees didn't create me. Describe the process your parents used to create you during the months from conception to birth. That should be interesting.

The process was started by the DNA that your parents gave you. That DNA didn't come from a creator deity. It came from your parents.

 

[Loudmouth]

There is a field of science that studies design in nature to improve man-made design including improvement in computers by studying our brains. Design in nature is not questioned and is part of nature which is part of the universe. There is no evidence that design in nature is an illusion any more than human designs are illusions.

Where is the evidence that the appearance of design was created by an intelligent designer?

 

[justlookinla]

I know. Yet you, Once, and Justa continue to demand that negative be proven. /QUOTE]

It's not a negative, it's an unsubstantiated claim.