Evolution and the myth of "scientific consensus"

[The Cadet]

Do you recognize the similarity between the two?

Not really, no. Not any more than I recognize similarity between these two:

Edit: better example: any more than I see analogy between a grappling hook and HIV's retractable spear proteins.

 

[Loudmouth]

Do you recognize the similarity between the two?

There are many natural features that have similarity to human designs. Hasn't anyone pointed that out to you? Didn't you read "Climbing Mt. Improbable", or is that one quote the extent of your reading?

 

[Oncedeceived]

There are many natural features that have similarity to human designs. Hasn't anyone pointed that out to you? Didn't you read "Climbing Mt. Improbable", or is that one quote the extent of your reading?

What evidence other than the general mix large amounts of time add step by step speculations = any known system or feature?

 

[Loudmouth]

What evidence other than the general mix large amounts of time add step by step speculations = any known system or feature?

Where is the evidence for ID? Do you have something more than pareidolia?

 

[Oncedeceived]

Not really, no. Not any more than I recognize similarity between these two:

Edit: better example: any more than I see analogy between a grappling hook and HIV's retractable spear proteins.

Hmmmm.

 

[Oncedeceived]

Where is the evidence for ID? Do you have something more than pareidolia?

Loudmouth, you haven't provided evidence for your position. If you claim that this appearance of design is an illusion it is up to YOU to provide evidence of that claim.

 

[Loudmouth]

Hmmmm.

Stac Levenish Island

 

[Loudmouth]

Loudmouth, you haven't provided evidence for your position. If you claim that this appearance of design is an illusion it is up to YOU to provide evidence of that claim.

It is up to you to provide real objective evidence for design, not subjective appearances.

 

[HitchSlap]

Loudmouth, you haven't provided evidence for your position. If you claim that this appearance of design is an illusion it is up to YOU to provide evidence of that claim.

How much evidence would it take for you to accept Leprechauns do not exist.

You can't take a positive position, then expect someone else to provide negative evidence. You're the one making the assertion that appearance is obvious, it's up to you, then, to provide evidence.

 

[Oncedeceived]

It is up to you to provide real objective evidence for design, not subjective appearances.

I have to wonder and I am sure there are others as well how there is always the claim that there is mountains of evidence for evolution and how it explains how life is how it is, but when it is time to present said evidence for those claims nothing is presented. If you are so confident of your position why do you say that there is no evidence and we shouldn't expect any considering the problems of no fossil evidence, no genetic evidence, and millions of years between then and now? How if there is no fossil evidence, no genetic evidence, and millions of years between now and then do you explain you being an Empiricalist who only believes what can be shown with empirical evidence?

 

[Oncedeceived]

How much evidence would it take for you to accept Leprechauns do not exist.

You can't take a positive position, then expect someone else to provide negative evidence. You're the one making the assertion that appearance is obvious, it's up to you, then, to provide evidence.

So you deny that there is an appearance of design in living things?

 

[Oncedeceived]

Stac Levenish Island

Nice picture of the sea!

 

[RickG]

It is the fact that living things have elements that do have this design inference and design like features that humans recognize as design.

Why would the entity need to be identified? There is no reason that in the far far future that if all records were unavailable to those observing that they would need to know who the artist was for Mount Rushmore to know it was designed.

Because to verify that it was indeed designed by an entity you need to show a connection. You are not showing a connection to a designer.

 

[RickG]

Sooooo.....the identification of the designer is not required to determine the item in the photo was designed.

If you are looking for a specific individual no. However, you need to show a connection.

 

[HitchSlap]

I have to wonder and I am sure there are others as well how there is always the claim that there is mountains of evidence for evolution and how it explains how life is how it is, but when it is time to present said evidence for those claims nothing is presented. If you are so confident of your position why do you say that there is no evidence and we shouldn't expect any considering the problems of no fossil evidence, no genetic evidence, and millions of years between then and now? How if there is no fossil evidence, no genetic evidence, and millions of years between now and then do you explain you being an Empiricalist who only believes what can be shown with empirical evidence?

I can only speak for myself, but I'm familiar with the mountains of evidence, which is why I accept ToE.

 

[bhsmte]

Stac Levenish Island

That was done by aliens, I can tell by the appearance.

 

[bhsmte]

How much evidence would it take for you to accept Leprechauns do not exist.

You can't take a positive position, then expect someone else to provide negative evidence. You're the one making the assertion that appearance is obvious, it's up to you, then, to provide evidence.

Why do that, when it is simpler to shift the burden?

 

[Loudmouth]

I have to wonder and I am sure there are others as well how there is always the claim that there is mountains of evidence for evolution and how it explains how life is how it is, but when it is time to present said evidence for those claims nothing is presented.

29+ evidences of evolution.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/

 

[Loudmouth]

Nice picture of the sea!

Need to purchase any tank tops?

 

[Loudmouth]

So you deny that there is an appearance of design in living things?

Do you deny the appearance of the face on that cliff?

Do you have something other than subjective appearances?