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Evolution and Morality just isn't logical

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Do any other animals enforce punishments on members of the groups that violate norms and standards of behavior? If you can answer that question, then you have the answer on non-human animal moral systems.
Hey, Fido, come over here boy. Hans has a question for you. Oh, you can't read. Then I'll read it for you then.

Sorry, Hans. Fido's answer is the same for you as it was for me.
 
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Essence isnt an act so how are you equivocating that idea to impersonal features.

The Essence is God being not an energy of God, Gods will is an energy not an essence they are distinct.
Nah you seem to think the essence is a force and not what God being is
You haven’t explained how God’s existence births this sort of essence that objectively grounds morality. You’ve just declared that it’s so. What is it about God’s essence that allows it to ground morality in this way?
 
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You haven’t explained how God’s existence births this sort of essence that objectively grounds morality.
What?? I have never separate Gods essence from God as Gods essence is him, Gods essence is what is pure light and anything the opposite of him is darkness which is how we understand that isn't a determined view but rather what he is.
hat is it about God’s essence that allows it to ground morality in this way?
His essence is pure light to distinguish darkness from light we separate good and evil essentially, anything that is light(good) is Gods essence, anything that is darkness(evil) is what we determine as wrong or sin.
 
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Hey, Fido, come over here boy. Hans has a question for you. Oh, you can't read. Then I'll read it for you then.

Sorry, Hans. Fido's answer is the same for you as it was for me.
This is the same method I used to determine that my deaf neighbors had no concept of anything either.
 
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What?? I have never separate Gods essence from God as Gods essence is him, Gods essence is what is pure light and anything the opposite of him is darkness which is how we understand that isn't a determined view but rather what he is.
His essence is pure light to distinguish darkness from light we separate good and evil essentially, anything that is light(good) is Gods essence, anything that is darkness(evil) is what we determine as wrong or sin.
Then this is just a matter of definitions. You’ve arbitrarily labeled God’s essence as the foundation of morality because you define morality according to God’s presence and absence. I could do the same with my cat.
 
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Hey, Fido, come over here boy. Hans has a question for you. Oh, you can't read. Then I'll read it for you then.

Sorry, Hans. Fido's answer is the same for you as it was for me.

It's not my problem you can't communicate with your son, or grandson, I can't tell.
 
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Then this is just a matter of definitions. You’ve arbitrarily labeled God’s essence as the foundation of morality because you define morality according to God’s presence and absence. I could do the same with my cat.
bro...
 
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It doesn’t establish the existence of objective morality,
Two exist because these establish the code differences between one another in Christian theology we have a nature given two distinguish right from wrong, as already stated the differences are opposites between Gods essence and the opposite of it darkness or aka sin
 
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Two exist because these establish the code differences between one another in Christian theology we have a nature given two distinguish right from wrong, as already stated the differences are opposites between Gods essence and the opposite of it darkness or aka sin
I understand. And your justification for this isn’t any stronger than “because I say so.”
 
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I understand. And your justification for this isn’t any stronger than “because I say so.”
In Christian theology they believe the code of conduct was given by God, the origin of it stems from the opposite of God himself. Simple terms, whatever the opposite is what we see wrong and whatever isn't the opposite is what we see right.
Its a thing we have by nature which stems from existence itself.
 
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In Christian theology they believe the code of conduct was given by God, the origin of it stems from the opposite of God himself. Simple terms, whatever the opposite is what we see wrong and whatever isn't the opposite is what we see right.
Its a thing we have by nature which stems from existence itself.
Right, so God tells us who he is, and that everything opposite that is morally wrong. Arbitrary, but coherent. How do you square this with your subsequent declaration that morality is something we have by nature stemming from the universe? Are God, nature, and the universe all the same thing to you?
 
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so God tells us who he is
False we dont know what God is ever. Nor does he tells us who he is. He establish the Code of conduct from what is the opposite of him.

How do you square this with your following declaration that morality is something we have by nature
Our human nature is what I mean by nature.
stemming from the universe?
existence a thing is understood to be something in the nature of things
Are God, nature, and the universe all the same thing to you?
No thats hinduism
 
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False we dont know what God is ever. Nor does he tells us who he is. He establish the Code of conduct from what is the opposite of him.
How is this code of conduct given to us if it’s based on God and his opposites, and we don’t get to know what God (and thus, his opposites) is?
 
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Couldn’t you logically deduce what he is if you’re able to know his opposite?
No not the case Gods essence is incomprehensible, but his energies(acts) are. The opposite of him are mutual opposites of his essence his essence is more than just light but a mystery on just what it is. A simple term we Orthodox says is that he is light
 
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No not the case Gods essence is incomprehensible, but his energies(acts) are. The opposite of him are mutual opposites of his essence his essence is more than just light but a mystery on just what it is. A simple term we Orthodox says is that he is light
“Incomprehensible and mysterious essence” doesn’t sound like a reliable basis for anything but a scam.
 
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“Incomprehensible and mysterious essence” doesn’t sound like a reliable basis for anything but a scam.
Its Christian Theology which isnt even the basis of the thread. Just my beliefs
 
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Its Christian Theology which isnt even the basis of the thread. Just my beliefs
It’s true we’ve gone on a tangent, but ultimately your thread means to contrast Christian Theology with evolutionary psychology as competing explanations for our moral intuitions, and while you reject the latter in the title, you don’t seem interested in making the former appear any more convincing.
 
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