Evidence of Purgatory?

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1 Peter 3:18 - 20

'For Christ died for sins once and for all, a good man on behalf of sinners, in order to lead you to God. He was put to death physically, but made alive spiritually and in his spiritual existence he went to preach to imprisoned spirits. These were the spirits of those who had not obeyed God when he waited patiently during the days that Noah was building his boat.

This means these imprisoned spirits could still repent, that's why he preached to them
 

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I agree, for until then they had no way to accept or reject Christ. But I don't believe in a waiting place now, at least for the righteous. I believe when he ascended to present himself to the Father (John 20:17), he took these souls with him (Psalms 68:18)
 
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1 Peter 3:18 - 20

'For Christ died for sins once and for all, a good man on behalf of sinners, in order to lead you to God. He was put to death physically, but made alive spiritually and in his spiritual existence he went to preach to imprisoned spirits. These were the spirits of those who had not obeyed God when he waited patiently during the days that Noah was building his boat.

This means these imprisoned spirits could still repent, that's why he preached to them


JS: Purgatory should be common sense for a truly merciful L-rd. We need to be Holy to go into heaven. Evil cannot exist there. Yet many who hunger for heaven fall short.

By LAW, they should go to hell, but mercy demands otherwise. Purgatory is where one who died and fell short of holiness gets a second chance for becoming holy. This is why its mercy.
 
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1 Peter 3:18 - 20

'For Christ died for sins once and for all, a good man on behalf of sinners, in order to lead you to God. He was put to death physically, but made alive spiritually and in his spiritual existence he went to preach to imprisoned spirits. These were the spirits of those who had not obeyed God when he waited patiently during the days that Noah was building his boat.

This means these imprisoned spirits could still repent, that's why he preached to them
Another way of interpreting this scripture, the Spirit of Christ was testifying through Noah during that day. Other than the eight, the rest were imprisoned in their sin. Peter continues with the "antitype" of the Holy Spirit that dwells in us today. Blessings.
 
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JS: Purgatory should be common sense for a truly merciful L-rd. We need to be Holy to go into heaven. Evil cannot exist there. Yet many who hunger for heaven fall short.
Prior to one's death, perhaps. But when it comes to Purgatory, that comes (if it does) after the person has been justified and forgiven.

The alleged purpose of Purgatory is not to make the person "holy," but to punish him for having been evil at any time in the past, even if he's now been saved. All the souls in Purgatory are, in theory, those who are saved.

By LAW, they should go to hell
No. That's not what Purgatory is all about.

Purgatory is where one who died and fell short of holiness gets a second chance for becoming holy.
An even more emphatic NO! According to the church that invented Purgatory, everyone who is sent to Purgatory has been forgiven his sins, is justified, saved, and is heaven-bound. But he still needs to be punished for what he did before.
 
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There's no repentance in hell, He won't preach to souls in there[/QUOTE]

That's true. The usual thinking is that Jesus preached to the souls in Abraham's Bosom, a certain kind of Limbo. However, there are several different theories as to what category of souls that is.
 
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JS: Purgatory should be common sense for a truly merciful L-rd. We need to be Holy to go into heaven. Evil cannot exist there. Yet many who hunger for heaven fall short.

By LAW, they should go to hell, but mercy demands otherwise. Purgatory is where one who died and fell short of holiness gets a second chance for becoming holy. This is why its mercy.
God’s righteousness is not earned, it is given through exchange. Here is how the exchange works: Christ takes on our sin, in fact he became our sin and in exchange for our sin we receive his righteousness. To be declared righteous in God’s sight you must be willing to put all your sin on Christ and take up his righteousness. I know sometimes that is hard to grasp because it sounds too good to be true, but thankfully it is true. If you will allow him, God will take your sin and exchange it for his righteousness. 3 Truths to Know about the Righteousness of God
 
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It doesn't have anything to do with Purgatory, one way or the other!


John 5:24 'Whoever hears my word and believe in He who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has passed over from death to life'

Those imprisoned spirits were judged in the flesh for their unbelief and imprisoned, Jesus went and preached to them because they still have a chance to live godly lives in the spirit. Do spirits/souls in hell fire still have a chance of redemption?
 
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John 5:24 'Whoever hears my word and believe in He who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has passed over from death to life'
Those imprisoned spirits were judged in the flesh for their unbelief and imprisoned, Jesus went and preached to them because they still have a chance to live godly lives in the spirit. Do spirits/souls in hell fire still have a chance of redemption?
Those spirits were not in Purgatory, not even according to the denomination that created Purgatory. And the usual belief is that they were not in Hell, either, but in Abraham's Bosom.
 
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1 Peter 3:18 - 20

'For Christ died for sins once and for all, a good man on behalf of sinners, in order to lead you to God. He was put to death physically, but made alive spiritually and in his spiritual existence he went to preach to imprisoned spirits. These were the spirits of those who had not obeyed God when he waited patiently during the days that Noah was building his boat.

This means these imprisoned spirits could still repent, that's why he preached to them

I don't think the Bible supports that amount of inference poured into the text.

Heb 9 "it is appointed unto man once to die - and then comes the judgment" - no second chance in death.

Peter declares that the Spirit of Christ was actively working with OT saints - in real life -- not after their death.

1 Peter 1
10 As to this salvation, the prophets who prophesied of the grace that would come to you made careful searches and inquiries, 11 seeking to know what person or time the Spirit of Christ within them was indicating as He predicted the sufferings of Christ and the glories to follow. 12 It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves, but you, in these things which now have been announced to you through those who preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven—things into which angels long to look.

1 Peter 3
18 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, 19 by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison, 20 who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water. 21 There is also an antitype which now saves us—baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,


1 Peter 3 is very specifically talking about the work of the Spirit preaching to those who lived at the time the ark was being built by Noah with the result that 8 were SAVED and the rest perished.

No mention at all of being purged of their sins after death -- via torment and suffering - in a place called purgatory.

no mention of Jesus going some place like Purgatory "while dead to preach to spirits in purgatory waiting to be purged of their venial sins and then be transferred into Heaven".
 
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Those spirits were not in Purgatory, not even according to the denomination that created Purgatory. And the usual belief is that they were not in Hell, either, but in Abraham's Bosom.


Purgatory is not a human or denomination creation, it's God's creation
 
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Those spirits were not in Purgatory, not even according to the denomination that created Purgatory. And the usual belief is that they were not in Hell, either, but in Abraham's Bosom.


Purgatory is not a human or denomination creation, it's God's creation. If you reread the initial scripture I quoted, you will notice that these imprisoned souls were the people physically killed during the flood in Noah's time, they were guilty of all kinds of abominations and even unbelief, yet they were imprisoned in spirit and God Himself went to preach to them many centuries after their physical death.
 
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I don't think the Bible supports that amount of inference poured into the text.

Heb 9 "it is appointed unto man once to die - and then comes the judgment" - no second chance in death.

Peter declares that the Spirit of Christ was actively working with OT saints - in real life -- not after their death.

1 Peter 1
10 As to this salvation, the prophets who prophesied of the grace that would come to you made careful searches and inquiries, 11 seeking to know what person or time the Spirit of Christ within them was indicating as He predicted the sufferings of Christ and the glories to follow. 12 It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves, but you, in these things which now have been announced to you through those who preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven—things into which angels long to look.

1 Peter 3
18 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, 19 by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison, 20 who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water. 21 There is also an antitype which now saves us—baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,


1 Peter 3 is very specifically talking about the work of the Spirit preaching to those who lived at the time the ark was being built by Noah with the result that 8 were SAVED and the rest perished.

No mention at all of being purged of their sins after death -- via torment and suffering - in a place called purgatory.


Which version of the Bible are you using? I'm using Good news, and it's a bit different from yours. If you read the text I quoted in my first post, it says Jesus Christ was put to death physically but was made alive in spirit and in His spiritual existence He went to preach to imprisoned souls. I think this event occurred before His physical resurrection
 
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Purgatory is not a human or denomination creation, it's God's creation

And just where is there a Greek word for Purgatory in the bible , there is NONE as I could not find one in STRONG'S nor in VINE'S dictionary .

I will say it is a MADE up word

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