Evidence of miracles.

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Is this because you're a geneticist (or something) and claim that we mere plebes will never understand. (We've had those types here before...)

Is this some sort of odd UKer dialect I don't know: "You will not make a scientist unless you can research it from there." If I understand correctly my response (in dialect) should be:

"I already make a scientist. Research it many things I have."

No, it's not a UK thing. It's a him thing.

 

[partinobodycular]

Reality is you would not know a myocardial tissue section if hit you on the head, nor a mitichondrial haplogroup.

You're no doubt correct, but I'm also old enough and smart enough to know that one shouldn't be mislead by headlines, or claims that haven't been authenticated by anyone other than the one making them. Your experts claim that there are certain inexplicable and unusual anomalies, well show me an independent review that corroborates this, otherwise its inexplicability is just rhetoric from someone who wants to interpret it as such. You may be perfectly willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, but I'm not.

You're not preaching to the choir...we're skeptics...you need to do better than unverified claims.

 

[drtime]

I personally couldn't care less about constructing yet another fantasy.
How about you try explaining how this 'evidence' was collected, in order to attract more serious attention?
Science is defined by its process, ie: the 'how'.
That's what makes any evidence collected in the first place 'CREDIBLE'.

Nothing spiritual can be or ever was collected by science. Nothing spiritual was ever seen or can be seen by science. So when looking for evidence of miracles we would not invite science any more than we would ask a kangaroo.

 

[partinobodycular]

There are plenty of tesoriero interviews even "blood of christ" videos out on the web.

Okay, I had a few free hours, so I figured that I might as well go watch one of those videos. Just go to Youtube and search "cochabamba bleeding statue". Guess what...nothing. Google it, nothing but a preview for a video, but no actual video. Search "tesoriero interview"...still nothing.

So I did make an effort...again. But still nothing. If you know of such a video, a little help would be appreciated.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

Nothing spiritual can be or ever was collected by science. Nothing spiritual was ever seen or can be seen by science. So when looking for evidence of miracles we would not invite science any more than we would ask a kangaroo.

The purpose of science right up to Darwin's theories, was to discover the complexities of God's creation upon the basis that the Cosmos, this world, and everything in it was created by God. Therefore science had a creationist foundation. Since Darwin, science has an evolutionary foundation that erases God from the picture.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

The purpose of science right up to Darwin's theories, was to discover the complexities of God's creation upon the basis that the Cosmos, this world, and everything in it was created by God. Therefore science had a creationist foundation. Since Darwin, science has an evolutionary foundation that erases God from the picture.

Yeah... no.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Here is a relevant paper. You will not understand it.

Very Short Mitochondrial DNA Fragments and Heteroplasmy in Human Plasma

You have to accept that credible labs state that mitochondrial heteroplasmy is normal in trauma particularly heart.

Some level of mitochondrial heteroplasmy is found in most, if not all cells. High levels are associated with a number of different diseases, including cardiac. But so what?

 

[drtime]

The purpose of science right up to Darwin's theories, was to discover the complexities of God's creation upon the basis that the Cosmos, this world, and everything in it was created by God. Therefore science had a creationist foundation. Since Darwin, science has an evolutionary foundation that erases God from the picture.

Great. Too bad the building on that foundation was moved to another foundation

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

Great. Too bad the building on that foundation was moved to another foundation

Yep. Just like the house built on the foundation of rock was moved to a foundation of sand. Then the rain and floods came...

 

[drtime]

Yep. Just like the house built on the foundation of rock was moved to a foundation of sand. Then the rain and floods came...

Right. Man's wisdom is not all it's cracked up to be

 

[Tinker Grey]

Right. Man's wisdom is not all it's cracked up to be

See the problem is is that is all there is. That and a bunch of self-important self-righteous martyr-wanna-bes who claim to know what their god's wisdom actually is. (And how amusing it is when they disagree.)

If there is a god and there is "god's wisdom", you don't know what it is.

 

[drtime]

See the problem is is that is all there is. That and a bunch of self-important self-righteous martyr-wanna-bes who claim to know what their god's wisdom actually is. (And how amusing it is when they disagree.)

If there is a god and there is "god's wisdom", you don't know what it is.

A vote against God's wisdom then?

 

[Tinker Grey]

A vote against God's wisdom then?

A vote against YOUR idea of god's wisdom.

 

[drtime]

A vote against YOUR idea of god's wisdom.

Did I even say what that was? Or does it matter?

 

[AV1611VET]

See the problem is is that is all there is. That and a bunch of self-important self-righteous martyr-wanna-bes who claim to know what their god's wisdom actually is. (And how amusing it is when they disagree.)

If there is a god and there is "god's wisdom", you don't know what it is.

Can you list two things your dad was wise in?

 

[AV1611VET]

A vote against YOUR idea of god's wisdom.

You were born wise, weren't you?

(Note: Think before you answer. This is a science question.)

 

[Tinker Grey]

Did I even say what that was? Or does it matter?

Reread what I wrote in post 471

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

See the problem is is that is all there is. That and a bunch of self-important self-righteous martyr-wanna-bes who claim to know what their god's wisdom actually is. (And how amusing it is when they disagree.)

If there is a god and there is "god's wisdom", you don't know what it is.

If you don't think there is a God, then you are not even in the ball park and don't even have a bat to bat with.

 

[drtime]

There I pointed out man's wisdom is less than perfect. So?

 

[SelfSim]

You were born wise, weren't you?

(Note: Think before you answer. This is a science question.)