Evidence for Design (3)

[Ursus scientia]

Is that on Youtube or something? I'd love to see it.

It is! Will edit the link into this post when I've found it.

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I still don’t understand what you believe

From 2009. There's definitely a youtube video where he specifically says he doesn't understand evolution, and many, many videos where he isn't able to explain terms like "species".

 

[createdtoworship]

The point is that the crocoduck, as well as the argument from bananas - and Comfort having admitted several times during interviews that he doesn't understand evolution - show quite clearly that Comfort has no useful opinions regarding any scientific matter.

okay so even if your right,

are you kidding?

person A does not know evolution,

therefore I conclude that person A is not knowledgeable on any thing scientific.

Is that a bad case of poisoning the well?

 

[createdtoworship]

It is! Will edit the link into this post when I've found it.

EDIT:



From 2009. There's definitely a youtube video where he specifically says he doesn't understand evolution, and many, many videos where he isn't able to explain terms like "species".

wow a source of quote mines, therefore.

I conclude,

since you quote mined once,

that therfore you quote mine everything and I shall not listen any longer.

See how it sounds?
OBsurd.

 

[Kylie]

It is! Will edit the link into this post when I've found it.

EDIT:



From 2009. There's definitely a youtube video where he specifically says he doesn't understand evolution, and many, many videos where he isn't able to explain terms like "species".

That just takes me to the home page. :S

 

[Ursus scientia]

wow a source of quote mines, therefore.

I conclude,

since you quote mined once,

that therfore you quote mine everything and I shall not listen any longer.

See how it sounds?
OBsurd.

As the quote is in context, and I've linked to the original article, this is not a quote mine.

 

[Ursus scientia]

That just takes me to the home page. :S

Odd. Works well enough for me. The blog entry is from 03/11/2009

URL: Words of Comfort -- Ray Comfort's Blog: A Genuine Apology

 

[Ursus scientia]

okay so even if your right,

are you kidding?

person A does not know evolution,

therefore I conclude that person A is not knowledgeable on any thing scientific.

Is that a bad case of poisoning the well?

Ordinarily, yes. But in this case his way of thinking is unscientific, he CONSTANTLY misrepresents a number of scientific theories and holds no scientific qualifications.

"Evolution is unobservable. It's based on blind faith in a few dry bones and on unreliable dating systems in which the gullible trust." - Ray Comfort

The above quote is demonstrably false.

Now: where's that evidence for design I've been hoping for?

 

[Kylie]

Odd. Works well enough for me. The blog entry is from 03/11/2009

URL: Words of Comfort -- Ray Comfort's Blog: A Genuine Apology

That still isn't working for me. Just takes me to The Comfort Zone

 

[Ursus scientia]

That still isn't working for me. Just takes me to The Comfort Zone

I have javascript blocked. That could be the difference. Here's a screengrab.

 

[Kylie]

What can I do to block that? I tried doing a search on the site and I got nothing. Thanks for the screenshot though.

 

[Ursus scientia]

I use a plugin called Noscript. Re-enabled javascript and I get redirected too: what a pain.

 

[Dave Ellis]

iow, it's wrong because it hurt your feelings.

get over it, it's a tough world out there.

If you don't have any real arguments can we look at the other quotes I gave, we have followed this red herring far enough.

okay okay, once again for the crowd.....

if you say there is a quote mine, you must prove it out of context. (because thats the only argument that actually exists, as quote mining is arbitrary and doesn't exist as a term. )

okay so on to quoting out of context,

again this is a big grey area, not a lot of people will honor even this argumetn, but I have for sake of the goodness in my heart for your feelings.

but quoting out of context is only wrong if you can prove that it was not a tangeant, or not a change of subjects of the author.

this is very hard to do.

posting the entire dialogue is not good enough, you must state which sentences that violate or in your terms, quote mine the original quotes.

you see?

good luck with that.

My feelings aren't hurt at all man, I'm simply pointing out your lack of credibility on these matters. You have proven yourself to be wilfully dishonest... so why should we trust what you have to say about anything else?

 

[Dave Ellis]

it is difficult for athiests to reconcile science and faith as being mutually exclusive and yet still be adhered to.


something like that.

(not that the Bible isn't scientific, it definately has some science in it)

That's because faith is the antithesis of science, and many aspects of the Christian religion stand in direct opposition to science.

And the bible has absolutely zero science in it.

 

[Dave Ellis]

I've tried, it doesn't work that good.

but there is a book by ray comfort about science and the Bible.

Does it have anything to do with Bananas?

 

[Dave Ellis]

He is pretty good.

Good for a laugh maybe, that's about it....

 

[Kylie]

I use a plugin called Noscript. Re-enabled javascript and I get redirected too: what a pain.

For firefox?

 

[createdtoworship]

My feelings aren't hurt at all man, I'm simply pointing out your lack of credibility on these matters. You have proven yourself to be wilfully dishonest... so why should we trust what you have to say about anything else?

nope, (you are dishonest even insinuating I am dishonest)

 

[Dave Ellis]

nope, (you are dishonest even insinuating I am dishonest)

lol, thank you for the early morning laugh.

 

[Ursus scientia]

For firefox?

Yes! I'm sure there're equally good versions for other browsers though.

In the meantime, I'm getting a terrible thirst for evidence for design over here.

 

[mzungu]

Yes! I'm sure there're equally good versions for other browsers though.

In the meantime, I'm getting a terrible thirst for evidence for design over here.

Me too; perhaps the only place we can quench that thirst is at the Restaurant at the end of the universe?