Evidence for Design (3)

[OllieFranz]

Then you are off topic, aren't you?

Yes and no. Gradyll started a side branch of the thread which drifted from the topic. My posts to him had resulted in the termination of that OT branch, until you decided to revive it.

 

[createdtoworship]

But look who I used that reasoning with.....

When in Rome, learn to speak Italian.

Besides, I am one Christian talking to another about an area of theology. I use quite different arguments concerning science.

it is difficult for athiests to reconcile science and faith as being mutually exclusive and yet still be adhered to.


something like that.

(not that the Bible isn't scientific, it definately has some science in it)

 

[createdtoworship]

obviosly not complete but that the ALL major phyla showed up from no where, and have not gone away since.

its' a problem because of this:

Dr. Paul Chien is chairman of the biology department at the University of San Francisco. He has extensively explored the mysteries of the marvelous Cambrian fossils in Chengjiang, China. Moreover, Chien possesses the largest collection of Chinese Cambrian fossils in North America. In an interview with Real Issue he remarked, “A simple way of putting it is that currently we have about 38 phyla of different groups of animals, but the total number of phyla discovered during that period of time (including those in China, Canada, and elsewhere) adds up to over 50 phyla. That means [there are] more phyla in the very, very beginning, where we found the first fossils [of animal life], than exist now. Stephen J. Gould, [a Harvard University evolutionary biologist], has referred to this as the reverse cone of diversity. The theory of evolution implies that things get more and more complex and get more and more diverse from one single origin. But the whole thing turns out to be reversed. We have more diverse groups in the very beginning, and in fact more and more of them die off over time, and we have less and less now.”- from genesispark.com

Darwin's Dilemma - YouTube

gonna finish watching later, watched first 30 min.

 

[bhsmte]

it is difficult for athiests to reconcile science and faith as being mutually exclusive and yet still be adhered to.


something like that.

(not that the Bible isn't scientific, it definately has some science in it)

I disagree. Atheists typically claim that scientific findings have nothing to do with whether their is a God or not and science is not concerned with this question.

Certainly, a guy like Francis Collins, who is a devout christian, has no problem stating science does not interfere with faith and can still state he is convinced the evidence to support evolution is staggering.

Scientist Francis Collins on evolution science faith religion genome gene language of God - Beliefnet.com

 

[createdtoworship]

I disagree. Atheists typically claim that scientific findings have nothing to do with whether their is a God or not and science is not concerned with this question.

Certainly, a guy like Francis Collins, who is a devout christian, has no problem stating science does not interfere with faith and can still state he is convinced the evidence to support evolution is staggering.

Scientist Francis Collins on evolution science faith religion genome gene language of God - Beliefnet.com

what I meant was that athiests think religious are unscientific. But both can be believed, and sometimes overlap.

 

[Golan]

what I meant was that athiests think religious are unscientific.

There's a very easy way to stop Atheists thinking that, tell them how religions are scientific.

 

[createdtoworship]

There's a very easy way to stop Atheists thinking that, tell them how religions are scientific.

I've tried, it doesn't work that good.

but there is a book by ray comfort about science and the Bible.

 

[Golan]

I've tried, it doesn't work that good.

but there is a book by ray comfort about science and the Bible.

Ray Comfort??? you just lost any credibility you had.
This is the last you will hear from me.

 

[biggles53]

Ray Comfort??? you just lost any credibility you had.
This is the last you will hear from me.

Yep....you're beyond help Grady.....

 

[OllieFranz]

I've tried, it doesn't work that good.

but there is a book by ray comfort about science and the Bible.

Ray Comfort??!

Ray "Banana Man" Comfort???!!

Seriously?

 

[createdtoworship]

Ray Comfort??!

Ray "Banana Man" Comfort???!!

Seriously?

He is pretty good.

 

[createdtoworship]

Ray Comfort??? you just lost any credibility you had.
This is the last you will hear from me.

see ya

 

[createdtoworship]

Yep....you're beyond help Grady.....

good I am glad you all don't like my main man comfort.

at least I know I am doing something right,

lol

 

[OllieFranz]

He is pretty good.

Even Ray Comfort has admited that Ray Comfort's argument is ridiculous.

 

[Black Akuma]

I've tried, it doesn't work that good.

but there is a book by ray comfort about science and the Bible.

Dude, you're in danger of going full crocoduck.


You never go full crocoduck.

 

[createdtoworship]

Dude, you're in danger of going full crocoduck.


You never go full crocoduck.

whats that mean?

lol

 

[Ursus scientia]

whats that mean?

lol

It means you never go full crocoduck.

 

[createdtoworship]

It means you never go full crocoduck.

I think I seen one of them,

jk

 

[Ursus scientia]

The point is that the crocoduck, as well as the argument from bananas - and Comfort having admitted several times during interviews that he doesn't understand evolution - show quite clearly that Comfort has no useful opinions regarding any scientific matter.

 

[Kylie]

The point is that the crocoduck, as well as the argument from bananas - and Comfort having admitted several times during interviews that he doesn't understand evolution - show quite clearly that Comfort has no useful opinions regarding any scientific matter.

Is that on Youtube or something? I'd love to see it.