What has convinced you that Messianics in this forum don't believe the days and years are connected to the motions of the luminaries in heaven? It does seem as if you have been accusing Messianic Judaism for being ignorant of the Word of YHWH. What Messianic in this forum is yet to disagree with your following explanation of the motions of the heavens ...
12 Constellations
12 Months
12 Hours
360 Degrees
360 Days
36 Moments
1 Week = 7 Days
Pleiades = 7 Sisters
4 Winds of Heaven
4 Corners of the Earth
4 Cardinal Directions
4 Seasons
Circle of the earth (see Isaiah)
Compass on the face of the deep (see Proverbs)
I quoted your previous post word for word as follows. If this isn't what you mean you can go back and edit it to express your true intent. It's found in your post #52 within lines 11-13 ...
I've previously indicated that by age 6, it was my understanding that a 12 hr day was from sunrise to sunset. Fortunately my Mother was an excellent teacher that didn't mix light and darkness together as did Babylon and Egypt.
My Mother taught her children at an early age to believe what you also believe properly interrupting the Word of God and not disagreeing, but rather agreeing with what you posted in your #1 reply shown below ...
"God tells us plainly through Moses that He separated the Light from the Darkness: this is to indicate that these two periods of time are never to be mixed. In Genesis 1:14-19 we read that the sun rules over the day and the moon and stars rule over the night and, they divide the light from the darkness (cf. Psalms 136:7-9). The sun rules the day meaning that the morning is when the Sun rises from the east to mark the beginning of the day; noon is when the Sun is at its highest point in the sky to mark the middle of the day in the north; and, evening is when the Sun sets in the west to mark the end of the day: therefore Evening and Morning are only part of the time when the Sun is out. By the time the Sun is completely gone then it is no longer evening (i.e. the day time) but, night time."
By the time my sister and i (we are twins) attended the one room rural school house we generally understood what you have shown below. However, as a child i remember during certain months of the year when i could faintly see the moon during the day and sometimes even high in the sky during daytime. I'd assumed that all Messianics also believe the same as what you've previously posted with the exception being your definition of
Moonrise as the
(Beginning of Night) and
Moonset being the
(End of Night) as further shown by that link at the bottom of this page post ...
Day
Morning (Beginning of Day)
Noon (Middle of Day)
Evening (End of Day)
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Night
Moonrise (Beginning of Night)
Midnight (Middle of Night)
Moonset (End of Night)
Moonrise and Moonset occurs at different times throughout the
12 Months. According to
Moonrise (Beginning of Night) on July 30, Night is forecast to begin in Jerusalem at 12:44 pm and
Moonset (End of Night) is forecast to occur at 12:17 am on July 31.
Moonrise, Moonset, and Moon Phase in Jerusalem, July 2017