Eve came from Adam, evolution does not allow this

[-57]

Not up to me to do your research for you.

Cop out. Got it, you don't have an answer.

Why don't you reply in the thread I just started. I'm guessing you won't because you don't really have an answer. You want to hide behind 623 post.

 

[Archivist]

Cop out. Got it, you don't have an answer.

Why don't you reply in the thread I just started. I'm guessing you won't because you don't really have an answer. You want to hide behind 623 post.

You don’t want to do your research, am I’m the one coping out? I don’t think so. Now, if you want me to reply, what is the thread and where is it located?

 

[Cis.jd]

How did the fall happen? When did the fall happen? Why did the fall happen?

Do you know why you won't answer the question? YOU CAN'T.

You see, I can. I can read Genesis 3

Did you not read my example of the metaphor with the "top dog"? Can't you see how questions of "why/how/when it happened" makes no sense to ask?

The only reason why you claim "I can't answer" is because you don't know the meaning of the word, therefore you can't determine when an answer is given. Why are you being so obnoxious that you refuse to look up the word "metaphor"?

 

[Cis.jd]

Cop out. Got it, you don't have an answer.

Why don't you reply in the thread I just started. I'm guessing you won't because you don't really have an answer. You want to hide behind 623 post.

How about this "the land flowing with milk and honey".. do you think challenging that demands an answer as to when/how/why did it happen"? come on -57, you can't be serious here.

 

[Cis.jd]

I guess it all depends on who the rushing fools are and what they believe.

God says that the wise will be shown to be foolish...

The YEC view, or the "theological Evolution" view..is a simple basic fact that some believe the bible as it is and some believe men know better..

Who are the fools? Would angels tread down that path of spontaneous changes in plants and animals.. for millennia?

I doubt it.

You are the fools because you are simply pressing on your lack of academical knowledge and making your own claims that the Bible supports you when an amount of evidence and basic reasoning disputes you.

 

[dad]

That is highly false because i've given links from protestant, catholics, and even creation.org.

As I said, no bible believer. In case this is news most churches are in apostasy and unbelief. When you cited the various churches, and I clarified I meant bible believers you should have clued in.

 

[dad]

Astronomers paid more attention to the House of the Zodiac in which a star appeared, and other details like the timing and where the moon and sun happened to be.

Totally clueless and off target then. Ok. The Zodiak does not hover over houses.

 

[dad]

Another false claim on your part. No, you did not say “bible believers.” You said “believers.” Last time I checked Christians are believers.

I meant believers in the bible and God of the bible. Today the word christian is meaningless. That includes believing in Jesus by the way, the Jesus I know created all things. The jesus that christian evos believe in is unknown to me...or the bible!

 

[-57]

You don’t want to do your research, am I’m the one coping out? I don’t think so. Now, if you want me to reply, what is the thread and where is it located?

Are you a rookie?

I made a link. All you had to do was click on it. I don't really expect an answer from you.

 

[-57]

Did you not read my example of the metaphor with the "top dog"? Can't you see how questions of "why/how/when it happened" makes no sense to ask?

The only reason why you claim "I can't answer" is because you don't know the meaning of the word, therefore you can't determine when an answer is given. Why are you being so obnoxious that you refuse to look up the word "metaphor"?

Top dog has nothing to with Adam

 

[Cis.jd]

Top dog has nothing to with Adam

right.. it's an example of a metaphor so that you can finally get what the word means. Everything is flying over your head (<--another example)

 

[Cis.jd]

As I said, no bible believer. In case this is news most churches are in apostasy and unbelief. When you cited the various churches, and I clarified I meant bible believers you should have clued in.

Unless you provide theologians, apologists and apologetic websites to back up your statement here then you are making stuff up.

 

[The Barbarian]

Totally clueless and off target then.

You are. You don't understand what the Magi had found. They assumed, from whatever the new star indicated in astrological terms, that meant Bethleham.

 

[dad]

Unless you provide theologians, apologists and apologetic websites to back up your statement here then you are making stuff up.

Believe what you like, we already had a sample of what you believe.

 

[dad]

You are. You don't understand what the Magi had found. They assumed, from whatever the new star indicated in astrological terms, that meant Bethleham.

Oh? You know what they assumed...how? They sure didn't find the house Jesus was in by assuming anything, they were led there. By the way the house was not in Bethlehem perhaps...

"Many commentators merely have Jesus staying in Bethlehem, but Dale suggests a better interpretation that fits with both the Matthew account and the Luke account.

Matthew 2:11 says the Magi saw Jesus as a “young child” and found him in ”the house,” where ”they fell down and worshiped him.” At the very least, it eliminates the possibility that this was at his birth at a manger scene in Bethlehem. That would also mean that the typical nativity scene is inaccurate.

Notice that Luke’s account has them leaving Bethlehem for Jerusalem to be presented in the Temple. Then Luke 2:39 says that after Jesus is presented in the Temple, the family returns to Nazareth. That is where Dale believes the Magi found Jesus and his family.

Notice that Matthew 2 gives an impression of a hurried, immediate escape to Egypt. Nothing like that is mentioned in Luke 2:39. Instead we have them returning to Nazareth.

Therefore, it is possible that the family returned to Bethlehem when Jesus was perhaps 1-2 years old. Matthew 2 then appears to be picking up the story where they escape during the night.

I think this interpretation also helps make sense of King Herod’s command to kill all male children “two years old and under.” Remember earlier asked ”the exact time the star had appeared” in Matthew 2:7. That would mean that at the time of the king’s order, Jesus was not a newborn, but a toddler, ”the young child.”


“How Could the Wise Men Have Found Baby Jesus in Nazareth?”

 

[dad]

You are the fools because you are simply pressing on your lack of academical knowledge and making your own claims that the Bible supports you when an amount of evidence and basic reasoning disputes you.

Only in your mind does reason or evidence dispute God's word.

 

[trophy33]

How do you read the words of Genesis and NOT take away a six literal day creation. Then, reading further, have it confirmed in later scripture?

By understanding that its not a scientific language, but the writers thought differently, like people in their era.

 

[trophy33]

So I guess the fish are from dust too. Ha.

Yes, fish are mortal too.

 

[trophy33]

So the correction is that we should not believe Eve was real and taken from a man by God, and believe that man descended from simple life forms, right?

Not sure why Eve should not be a real person, but taking her from one side of a man is not something you must believe to be literal. It represents something - closeness to man and primacy of man.

 

[trophy33]

When will you explain the fall?

What do you need to explain?