Only if you ignore 2 Timothy 4:1, and Matthew 25:31-46, and Revelation 11:18.
We have the judgment of both the living and the dead at His return.
Matthew 25:31-46 leaves no millennial mortals.
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But Rev 19 leads seamlessly into the defeat of the beast & false prophet, chaining of Satan, and Millennium
It was when God sent them into Assyrian and Babylonian captivity. And still is.The physical State of Israel is not biblical Israel.
Read Romans 11 carefully. God removed the unbelievers from Israel and will graft them back in only through faith in Christ. Today's State of Israel exists only because of their hatred and rejection of Christ. And have been cursed of God ever since. The rest of Israel accepted Christ and entered the New Covenant.It was when God sent them into Assyrian and Babylonian captivity. And still is.
Dave, you have some flawed theology that since 1948, them holding your theology have been in denial.
You have it completely mis-explained. The state of Israel, the Jews brought back into the land, is part of God's plan to bring them to Christ. The end times prophecies in the bible cannot take place without Israel being a nation and in the land again.Today's State of Israel exists only because of their hatred and rejection of Christ.
Only if you ignore 2 Timothy 4:1, and Matthew 25:31-46, and Revelation 11:18.
We have the judgment of both the living and the dead at His return.
Matthew 25:31-46 leaves no millennial mortals.
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the "first resurrection" at onset of Millennium = "Christians && martyrs && beheaded"
such would include St. Paul, beheaded (as a Roman citizen) in about 65 AD...
how many other Christian martyrs were beheaded ?
St. Paul in 65 AD, Justin Martyr + 6 companions in 165 AD...
How many total? I think if people realized just how select a group get the "special treatment" in Rev 20:1-6 then they wouldn't try to "balloon" the 1st resurrection into some sort of general resurrection of the Righteous.
If I read Rev 20:1-6 correctly, not even St. Peter or St. James the Just are included in the 1st Resurrection... because they were crucified (upside down) and stoned (after surviving being thrown from the temple), not beheaded
One of my main issues with you in particular is not so much that you are Amil, but that you claim it's everyone else that are ignoring Scriptures, as if you yourself aren't.
You indicate----Matthew 25:31-46 leaves no millennial mortals.
That is if you ignore the following Scripture though.
Zechariah 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
This is clearly meaning a time post the 2nd coming. No way are any of the above meaning the saved who have put on immortality at the last trump. The saved that put on immortality at the last trump can never be punished from that time forth, nor ever be threatened with punishment ever again for forever. What does that logically make these above in this passage if not mortals?
Not so. For one they are not Biblical Jews. Jesus said they claim to be Jews and are lying. They are the synagogue of Satan.You have it completely mis-explained. The state of Israel, the Jews brought back into the land, is part of God's plan to bring them to Christ. The end times prophecies in the bible cannot take place without Israel being a nation and in the land again.
You have it completely mis-explained. The state of Israel, the Jews brought back into the land, is part of God's plan to bring them to Christ. The end times prophecies in the bible cannot take place without Israel being a nation and in the land again.
Not so. For one they are not Biblical Jews. Jesus said they claim to be Jews and are lying. They are the synagogue of Satan.
“‘I know the distress you are suffering and your poverty (but you are rich). I also know the slander against you by those who call themselves Jews and really are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.” (Revelation 2:9)
This is fine but you are missing the point. The point is there are no physical Jews today. If they claim to be, they are Satan worshipers.Jesus also said something similar in the following passage as well.
Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Why not interpret this part, too?-----I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. What is your interpretation of that? But if you have no interpretation of that part, why do you appear to have an interpretation of this part then?-----them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie.
Your original argument written in a previous post -->1229 [1232] --- was that there is no 8 TH Trumpet IN THE BIBLE.I have done the count.
There is no 8th trumpet in the Book of Revelation.
Rev 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
Eph_5:32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
The "mystery" of God is finished at the sounding of the 7th trump.
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This is fine but you are missing the point. The point is there are no physical Jews today. If they claim to be, they are Satan worshipers.
Your original argument written in a previous post --- was that there is no 8 TH Trumpet IN THE BIBLE.
Obviously Matthew 24:29-31 talk about that 8Th Trumpet who will sound AFTER THE TRIBULATION.
Are you arguing that the 7 Trumpets of Revelation are not 7 Trumpets plagues who will happen DURING THE TRIBULATION ?
Do you know what will be the FIRST ACTION THAT JESUS WILL DO AS SOON THAT HE WILL RECEIVE FULL POWER AND AUTHORITY AT THE 7 TH TRUMPET ?
The 7 Trumpets of Revelation [Revelation 8 ...Revelation 9....Revelation 11:14-15]]are plagues who will happen before the 7 Vials of the Wrath of God [Revelation 16]I think the point is perhaps this. There are only 7 trumpets in Revelation. According to Paul there is also the last trump. Many of us then conclude the 7th trumpet and the last trump, these are one and the same.
The 7 Trumpets of Revelation [Revelation 8 ...Revelation 9....Revelation 11:14-15]]are plagues who will happen before the 7 Vials of the Wrath of God [Revelation 16]
So ,The LAST TRUMP/The TRUMP OF GOD, THAT PAUL TALK ABOUT IS NOT THE 7 TH TRUMPET .
But a TRUMP that will sound AFTER THE TRIBULATION OF THOSE DAYS ...AND IS CITED IN MATTHEW 24:29-31
At the Coming of Jesus there are only 2 who are cited to be cast ALIVE into the Lake Of Fire Revelation 19:20 -The Beast and the False Prophet -Do you think Jesus was wrong in Matthew 25:31-46?
In fact the 7TH TRUMPET IS THE THIRD WOE [Revelation 11:14-15] DURATION 42 MONTHS ..Who will effectively include the 7 Vials of the Wrath Of God[Revelation 16] upon those who will have taken the mark and who will worship the Beast and his Image.Per my understanding, right or wrong, the 7th trumpet leads to the unleashing of the 7 last vials of wrath.
Jesus did not say all Jews were of the synagogue of Satan. What was being said is that some Jews were doing Satan's work in opposing the gospel and Christians.Not so. For one they are not Biblical Jews. Jesus said they claim to be Jews and are lying. They are the synagogue of Satan.
That's a totally ridiculous claim.Also, circumcision made one a Jew and member of Israel. Christ abolished circumcision on the cross forever removing the people to whom the physical promises applied. Today's State of Israel are gentiles who trod down Jerusalem until the time of the gentiles are fulfilled.
At the Coming of Jesus there are only 2 who are cited to be cast ALIVE into the Lake Of Fire Revelation 19:20 -The Beast and the False Prophet -
The others [good or bad] who are not part of the First Resurrection Reward for the Saints Martyrs [Revelation 20:4-6] will be Judged at the Great White Throne Judgment 1,000 years later....Remember PETER tell us that the DAY OF THE LORD LAST 1,000 years.
At the Coming of Jesus there are only 2 who are cited to be cast ALIVE into the Lake Of Fire Revelation 19:20 -The Beast and the False Prophet -
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