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Looks like it to me. So what's the problem?
LittleLambofJesus said: ↑
What if the 5 months symbolized just the "half time"?
Fair enough.What if it's not ?
Scripture indicates that a 'half a time' is equal to half a year , but the scripture about locusts tormenting men happens for a period of time designated as 5 months........
The Seventh Seal is a half hour of heavenly time. Which is not the same as earthly time and we are given the formula for the difference; Psalms 90:4 and 2 Peter 3:8.Does a half hour mean literally a half hour in Reve 8:1?
The resurrection will provide you a immortal physical body...thus you will live in a physical place ...not in Heaven.
How do you interpret Matthew 6:9-13 if you believe that is not talking about the Kingdom YET TO COME...
Matthew 6:9-13 King James Version (KJV)
9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
What about the texts you say I am ignoring? The texts I have presented, why don't you feel they prove what I allege? How can Daniel 7:22 be meaning after the time of the beast in Revelation 13, but that Revelation 20:4 can't? Do not both texts involve being overcome, and in some cases, killed by this same beast in Revelation 13? Is or is not that beast this same little horn in Daniel 7?
Fair enough.
Does a half hour mean literally a half hour in Reve 8:1?
Interesting.The Seventh Seal is a half hour of heavenly time. Which is not the same as earthly time and we are given the formula for the difference; Psalms 90:4 and 2 Peter 3:8.
Therefore; 1/48th of a day in heaven equals 1/48th of 1000 years on earth. Which is about 20 years, that is around the time needed for all that is prophesied to happen from the Sixth seal until Jesus Returns.
Fair enough.
Does a half hour mean literally a half hour in Reve 8:1?
Is there scripture that says that it cannot be that ?Interesting.
So would that also mean 1 hour would equal 40yrs as in these verses?
LittleLambofJesus said: ↑
Interesting.
So would that also mean 1 hour would equal 40yrs as in these verses?
Nope.Is there scripture that says that it cannot be that ?
Dan 7:27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.
"Everlasting" is a lot longer than 1,000 years.
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If someone pointed to a hot rod car and said "isn't that cool ?"Nope.
So what to you and/or others think of that 1 hour I posted? I really would like to hear from others........
A certitude ….as final achievement...Like saying that the SAINTS will inherit the KingdomVerse 13: "...thine is the kingdom..."
Present tense. Present reality.
Didn't answer the question....Let me post the verses again for the benefit of our viewers here which I was discussing with another member:If someone pointed to a hot rod car and said "isn't that cool ?"
would you think they meant the temperature of the car to the touch ?
It include the 1,000 years ….Revelation 20 precede Revelation 21.Dan 7:27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.
"Everlasting" is a lot longer than 1,000 years.
No; it would not mean that.Interesting.
So would that also mean 1 hour would equal 40yrs as in these verses?
Just trying to follow you on this. Thks for your patience....
Any other views on this?
Ah, thanks for clarifying that. In that case, I would think the half hour would be 21 months...........No; it would not mean that.
We can't just apply the 1000 years on earth = 1 day in heaven randomly. It also is not the other way, as some others like to twist it.
Like the 1 day for a year in Ezekiel 4:4-6, that cannot be used as a general formula.
The 'one hour' as you quote from Rev 17:12, we know is actually 42 months; Rev 13:5
Rev 18, just refers to a short time, maybe exactly sixty minutes.
I do not see any reference that it would mean 40 years - , but it be just suppositionDidn't answer the question....Let me post the verses again for the benefit of our viewers here which I was discussing with another member:
https://www.christianforums.com/thr...-their-problems.8071615/page-47#post-72955511
So would that also mean 1 hour would equal 40yrs as in these verses?
Just trying to follow you on this. Thks for your patience....
Any other views on this?
Revelation 17:
12
“The ten horns which you saw are ten Kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the Beast.
16
“And the ten Horns which you saw, and the Beast, these will hate the Harlot and will make Her desolate<2049> and naked,
and will eat Her flesh and will burn Her up with fire.
Revelation 18:
10
“standing at a distance for fear of Her torment,
saying, ‘Alas, alas, that great City Babylon, that mighty City!
For in one hour Thy judgment has come.'
17
‘For in one hour was desolated<2049> such great riches.'
Every shipmaster, all who travel by ship, sailors,
and as many as trade on the sea, stood at a distance
19
“They threw dust on their heads and cried out, weeping and wailing, and saying, ‘Alas, alas, that great City, in which all who had ships on the sea became rich by Her wealth!
For in one hour She is made desolate<2049>.'
Keras is the one that brought up theIs there scripture that can't be an hour in human time ?
I do not see any reference that it would mean 40 years - but that does not mean it cannot be , but it be just supposition
Do you agree with keras on his hour and the half hour theory? Argue about it with him......Is there scripture that can't be an hour in human time ?
I do not see any reference that it would mean 40 years - , but it be just supposition
keras said: ↑
The Seventh Seal is a half hour of heavenly time. Which is not the same as earthly time and we are given the formula for the difference; Psalms 90:4 and 2 Peter 3:8.
Therefore; 1/48th of a day in heaven equals 1/48th of 1000 years on earth. Which is about 20 years, that is around the time needed for all that is prophesied to happen from the Sixth seal until Jesus Returns.
No; it would not mean that.
We can't just apply the 1000 years on earth = 1 day in heaven randomly. It also is not the other way, as some others like to twist it.
Like the 1 day for a year in Ezekiel 4:4-6, that cannot be used as a general formula.
The 'one hour' as you quote from Rev 17:12, we know is actually 42 months; Rev 13:5
Rev 18, just refers to a short time, maybe exactly sixty minutes.
not necessarily but it cannot be known at this time , but then You asked me twice about it , why did you ask me twice and not willing to give your own view about it?Keras is the one that brought up the
Do you agree with keras on his half hour theory? Argue about it with him......
So what is your view of the hour and half hour?no but You asked me twice about , , why did you ask me twice and not willing to give your own view about it?
Why don't you just say what it is that you are leading to.....So what is your view of the hour and half hour?
And is the "rapture" showing in Revelation?..........
Revelation 8:1
When He opened the seventh seal,
and became a hush/silence/sigh<4602> in the Heaven for about half an hour.
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