You initially stated that financial aid is a problem of equity, is that no longer the case, or did I mistake your explanation (you pointed to links without explanation)? I support using a holistic approach to college admissions that uses multiple factors. Many people speak of merit, yet they don't seem to really support everything based on merit alone. Nonetheless, was the purpose of this thread to discuss college admissions or what are the meanings of equality and equity?I'm fine with financial aid and scholarship programs. Do you think those things should be based on race? If so, why?
That doesn't appear in the dictionary, so you can't use that definition.
Short enough to fit on a bumpersticker and wrong enough to pull in “the usual suspects”!Equality: equal opportunity for everyone
Equity: equal outcomes for everyone
Please cease attempting to turn this into a “race thread”, thanks.Too much attention paid to race, not enough to culture. But if your race defines your culture and vice versa then both can be addressed as one.
Oh, so when people argue that racism doesn't exist because of a dictionary definition they're using, then we can acknowledge how it may be defined used in other fields and forms besides what is explicitly written in the dictionary?
It's understandable that words, practices, and usage change over time, and that may not be necessarily reflected in texts like the dictionary. However, many fall back hard on the narrow and/or outdated definition of racism, yet we're supposed to swallow your redefinition of equity?
Short enough to fit on a bumpersticker and wrong enough to pull in “the usual suspects”!
Being male is entirely merit based, eh?College Admissions: A Lesson in History | Western Association for College Admission Counseling
Appears things used to be completely merit based.
It was used to keep people out.The problem is using immutable traits to permit entry or receive special treatment.
She’s wrong. So sez I.
Being male is entirely merit based, eh?
It was used to keep people out.
Five billion for black farmers, nothing for other farmers?OK, but how would that work out in practice? Is it reverse discrimination to devote extra resources' to physically handicapped children? Children who have demonstrable learning disabilities? To ESL assistance for children who are growing up in a home where English is not much spoken?
Equality: equal opportunity for everyone
Equity: equal outcomes for everyone
Which, in practice, results in inequality in order to achieve an equalness of outcome; and the approach is partially dealing with immutable qualities of the students. They want to address the issues of poverty, drop out rates, and lack of proficiency, but will not acknowledge or address that the problems with those things are a direct result of parental encouragement and involvement at home. As my wife is an ex-teacher in an inner city school, you knew which kids had parents that fostered educational achievements and priorities versus those who did not; and this spanned race, gender and economic status.
Which is fair? Which is right and just? But most importantly, which path will America take into the future?
You initially stated that financial aid is a problem of equity, is that no longer the case, or did I mistake your explanation (you pointed to links without explanation)? I support using a holistic approach to college admissions that uses multiple factors. Many people speak of merit, yet they don't seem to really support everything based on merit alone. Nonetheless, was the purpose of this thread to discuss college admissions or what are the meanings of equality and equity?
You've got those terms confused. Equity is just a fancy word for justice or fairness.
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