"Embedded Age" Requires Fake Fossils

[Nic Samojluk]

No evidence has been presented. Science can only consider evidence that does exist, not evidence that only exists in your head.

My head is too small for that! The evidence is extremely large.

 

[JasonClark]

The belief that we are here by chance is pure nonsense. It is equivalent to winning the lottery a trillion times in a row.

I agree, it's much easier to believe that a magic man in the sky was the creator of everything and then refuse to confront the problem of where he came from,
yes it's much easier to believe that, if you're a child that is.

 

[AV1611VET]

I agree, it's much easier to believe that a magic man in the sky was the creator of everything and then refuse to confront the problem of where he came from,

'Magic man in the sky' aside ... what problem are you talking about?

Where God came from?

God is self-existent.

There -- "problem" confronted and dealt with.

 

[Doveaman]

Now you are merely rationalizing a deceptive behavior.

It is you who is rationalizing the "deceptive" behavior of nature/redshift by claiming that empty space can expand (embedded expansion).

Why is nature deceiving us into believing the universe is expanding faster than light-speed?

 

[Nic Samojluk]

What about it?

Some years ago, Dr. Francis Collins, the renowned scientist who was in charge of the Human Genome Project, was invited to speak at the Loma Linda University graduating ceremony. He made the following observation about the human DNA:

“I was tempted to read to you this morning the entire DNA sequence, but changed my mind when I discovered that it would take me 32 years of non stop reading.”

I have no idea how can highly intelligent scientists assume that the intricate design of the human DNA has been the product of unguided chance.

When I was working on my doctoral program, I decided to take a class in computer programming, and a little mistake in my programming design would ruin my work, yet these apparently smart scientists have no problem teaching that the Human DNA was the result of chance, all because they are unwilling to admit that such a marvelous accomplishment was the result of a the supernatural activity by the one who created both the universe and life on it.

A true wise scientists will have no problem giving credit where credit belongs.

 

[lasthero]

Some years ago, Dr. Francis Collins, the renowned scientist who was in charge of the Human Genome Project, was invited to speak at the Loma Linda University graduating ceremony. He made the following observation about the human DNA:

“I was tempted to read to you this morning the entire DNA sequence, but changed my mind when I discovered that it would take me 32 years of non stop reading.”

I have no idea how can highly intelligent scientists assume that the intricate design of the human DNA has been the product of unguided chance.

Why don't you ask them?

 

[Doveaman]

Yes, the expansion of space is well observed. If you wish to ignore it, so be it.

I don't wish to ignore it. I wish to see it, just as dad does.

No, your ignorance of how the expansion of space is observed has you making acquisitions to suit your own preconceived unsupported ideas.

I always believed some humans have a sixth sense through which we can observe things that others can't. That's why some of us can observe God and other can't.

 

[Doveaman]

How can redshift be explained besides by the Big Bang theory? And of course there is more evidence. The cosmic background energy is extremely strong evidence of the Big Bang as is the distribution of light elements. Currently there are no other scientific explanations.

This is total hogwash.

Doppler redshift has been empirically demonstrated (light can shift to the red as objects move away from us). Tired-light redshift has been empirical demonstrated (light can shift to the red as it loses energy traveling through a medium). Space-expansion redshift has never been empirically demonstrated in any form or fashion. How do we even begin to demonstrate space-expansion redshift without first showing that empty space can expand?

Your faith in unseen entities is far stronger than mine.

 

[JasonClark]

'Magic man in the sky' aside ... what problem are you talking about?

Where God came from?

God is self-existent.

There -- "problem" confronted and dealt with.

Where did the magic man in the sky come from? the thing you prefer to call god.

Luckily for me I can not disregard things just because they are inconvenient, I can not say 'it didn't happen' when my brain tells me it really did,
either I have something that you don't or you have something that I don't, I know what you think you have and I'm grateful that I don't have it.

Where do you draw the line as to what you are willing to accept, is it possible for your preacher to say something that you just will not believe?

 

[AV1611VET]

Where did the magic man in the sky come from?

'Magic man in the sky' aside, God is self-existent.

 

[JasonClark]

I always believed some humans have a sixth sense through which we can observe things that others can't. That's why some of us can observe God and other can't.

Problem is you are not observing a god you just think you are, do you observe things that you know are not from god?
if you do how can you tell which is and which isn't from god?

 

[JasonClark]

'Magic man in the sky' aside, God is self-existent.

Yes you keep saying that but it's still not true, nor will it ever be no matter how many time you say it.
I was abducted by aliens, I was abducted by aliens, I was abducted by aliens, I was abducted by aliens, I was abducted by aliens,
how many times must I say it before it becomes true?

 

[AV1611VET]

Yes you keep saying that but it's still not true, nor will it ever be no matter how many time you say it.
I was abducted by aliens, I was abducted by aliens, I was abducted by aliens, I was abducted by aliens, I was abducted by aliens,
how many times must I say it before it becomes true?

As long as you believe that, I have a feeling you will condemn yourself to searching for where God came from for the rest of your life.

Perhaps the next time you ask a valid question, you would care to include the kind of answers you won't accept?

 

[JasonClark]

As long as you believe that, I have a feeling you will condemn yourself to searching for where God came from for the rest of your life.

Perhaps the next time you ask a valid question, you would care to include the kind of answers you won't accept?

I am not religious so I will accept any valid answer that is backed by something more than, 'because it just is'.

 

[AV1611VET]

I am not religious so I will accept any valid answer that is backed by something more than, 'because it just is'.

Will "self existent" do?

If not ... what would?

 

[JasonClark]

Will "self existent" do?

Do you also believe in a 'perpetual motion machine'?

 

[AV1611VET]

Do you also believe in a 'perpetual motion machine'?

I'm on record as stating I think the universe may have run on perpetual motion before the Fall.

So YES.

(For now.)

 

[JasonClark]

I'm on record as stating I think the universe may have run on perpetual motion before the Fall.

So YES.

(For now.)

That wasn't my question but never mind I've heard enough.

 

[dad]

Who cares? People that accept reality care. Sadly no one cares what you believe, neither realists nor creationists.

Your opinion, while highly esteemed by yourself, opposes something more esteemed to billions. Scripture. That means you have but one alternative here, make a clear concise case packed with real facts and evidences to try to support your godless chirping.

 

[Doveaman]

Problem is you are not observing a god you just think you are

You can only know that if you had the sixth sense to see or not see what I see or not see.

do you observe things that you know are not from god?

Yes, atheism.

if you do how can you tell which is and which isn't from god?

Atheists don't believe in God, so I know atheism is not from God.