"Embedded Age" Requires Fake Fossils

[Subduction Zone]

Exactly. When you can't even come up with an invalid point you duck and dodge like crazy. At least you are beginning to spot your errors.

 

[dad]

How can redshift be explained besides by the Big Bang theory?

Easy. We simply cease to limit the causes of it to earth zone and earth time and earth timespace causes. I mean what is it we have? Light getting shifted. Whoopee doo.

And of course there is more evidence. The cosmic background energy is extremely strong evidence of the Big Bang as is the distribution of light elements.

The transfer of energy in a wave -or electromagnetic radiation is something we see from here. We have no way of knowing what energy might be like in space where say, no time as we know it existed. Here, in time and our timespace, we see the waves and assume that they had to originate a certain way. We assume that they represent certain things.

When we realize that all distances are actually totally unknown in deep space, because they depend on time existing and that is only assumed---then we must realize all sizes are not known either. Space is not what you thought!

Currently there are no other scientific explanations.

That says precious little. That is like saying thet the village idiot has only three guesses as to what something is!

 

[Subduction Zone]

Easy. We simply cease to limit the causes of it to earth zone and earth time and earth timespace causes. I mean what is it we have? Light getting shifted. Whoopee doo.

So you have nothing. Thanks for admitting defeat dad.

The transfer of energy in a wave -or electromagnetic radiation is something we see from here. We have no way of knowing what energy might be like in space where say, no time as we know it existed. Here, in time and our timespace, we see the waves and assume that they had to originate a certain way. We assume that they represent certain things.

And once again we have no reason to believe that it is any different. Once again since you are making the claim the burden of proof is upon you. If you can't provide evidence then you once again admit defeat.

When we realize that all distances are actually totally unknown in deep space, because they depend on time existing and that is only assumed---then we must realize all sizes are not known either. Space is not what you thought!


That says precious little. That is like saying thet the village idiot has only three guesses as to what something is!

And more nonsense that you have no evidence for. Once again the burden of proof is upon you.

It looks to me like you are admitting defeat three times in this once post alone. Congratulations dad, I do believe that is a record even for you!

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

Being true to my Christian belief is not evidence of failure.

The evidence of failure occurs when you reject the findings of science. Something failed then, and it wasn't science.

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

People who argue FOR evolution today are just as foolish as those who argued against Galileo.

The above assertion against evolution was written by a human with a vestigial tail . . . the coccyx.

 

[dad]

And once again we have no reason to believe that it is any different.

Who cares what you believe? You are grounded on earth. What you believe about things out of your world doesn't matter.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Who cares what you believe? You are grounded on earth. What you believe about things out of your world doesn't matter.

Who cares? People that accept reality care. Sadly no one cares what you believe, neither realists nor creationists.

 

[JasonClark]

Jesus Christ did believe that Adam and Eve were real individuals created by God.

This is something we all know is not true, how does anyone know what Jesus believed or felt about anything when everything we know about him was written at least 50 years after he is said to have died by people who didn't even know him? everything Jesus is supposed to have said was made up and written down by people who hadn't even met the man. The same myths and stories told about Jesus had been told about a dozen other gods for thousands of years before.

 

[JasonClark]

I highly, highly doubt that.

My wife is a secretary of a Fortune 100 company, and I can ASSURE you, if she "makes it up," she'll be working in the mail room (if she's lucky).

There are people reading what your wife writes and can check she has written it correctly, there was no one watching over the writers of the bible so they could write what ever they liked just as long as it was a good story.
It amazes me how religious people are able to twist things to suit what they want to believe and still believe it, it's as if they were not around when the brain was doing it.

 

[AV1611VET]

There are people reading what your wife writes and can check she has written it correctly,

Your point?

 

[JasonClark]

Your point?

What ever my point is I now feel it would be a waste of time trying to make it.

You seem very much like Oncedeceived or dad, you must all have an instant wall reflex that falls when ever something appears before you that might make you think outside of your comfort zone, alarm bells ring and you instinctively pull away, I should think that required a lot of training in order to overcome mans natural inquisitive nature.

 

[AV1611VET]

What ever my point is I now feel it would be a waste of time trying to make it.

You seem very much like Oncedeceived or dad, you must all have an instant wall reflex that falls when ever something appears before you that might make you think outside of your comfort zone, alarm bells ring and you instinctively pull away, I should think that required a lot of training in order to overcome mans natural inquisitive nature.

Welcome to the world of faith, my friend.

A world where people believe things, even when evidence says otherwise.

And faith is alive and well on the earth; and won't be going anywhere soon.

Unless, of course, Jesus returns -- then, as the song goes, our faith will end in sight.

 

[JasonClark]

Welcome to the world of faith, my friend.

*A world where people believe things, even when evidence says otherwise.

And faith is alive and well on the earth; and won't be going anywhere soon.

Unless, of course, Jesus returns -- then, as the song goes, our faith will end in sight.

That is just sad.. living in a world of make believe because reality is just too horrible to contemplate.
You have all just been added to my list of people I feel sorry for, the sick the destitute and now the religious.

*Highlights mine.

 

[AV1611VET]

You have just been added to my list of people I feel sorry for, the sick the destitute and now the religious.

Does that mean you'll pray for me?

 

[Mr Strawberry]

Welcome to the world of faith, my friend.

A world where people believe things, even when evidence says otherwise.

That is not faith. Faith is belief without evidence.

What you are describing is psychosis.

 

[AV1611VET]

That is not faith.

Yes, it is.

Faith is belief without evidence.

Indeed ... that too.

And just out of curiosity, how does that differ from an axiom?

What you are describing is psychosis.

I somehow don't think you're qualified to make that assessment.

 

[Mr Strawberry]

And just out of curiosity, how does that differ from an axiom?

You know exactly how it differs.

I somehow don't think you're qualified to make that assessment.

Look, I can't stop you misdefining faith, but your fellow christians might not be too thrilled that you want to run with a definition that describes psychosis rather than religious faith.

 

[AV1611VET]

Look, I can't stop you misdefining faith, but your fellow christians might not be too thrilled that you want to run with a definition that describes psychosis rather than religious faith.

Interesting.

I thought I said I agreed with your definition?

Did I not?

 

[Mr Strawberry]

Interesting.

I thought I said I agreed with your definition?

Did I not?

Don't be disingenuous.

 

[Nic Samojluk]

Let's see your math.

I did the math and I discovered my mistake: It was not one trillion but rather ten trillions!