embed radio frequency identification chips in license plates coming to the United Sta

[bigat]

"A controversial plan to embed radio frequency identification chips in license plates in the United Kingdom also may be coming to the United States, experts told UPI's Wireless World. "


http://washingtontimes.com/upi/20050812-082018-4885r.htm

What do you guys think of this? Too much?

 

[MadeInOz]

like anything, it has it's uses, for sure, but there are also the potential abuses... hmmm

 

[OhhJim]

What do you guys think of this? Too much?

Too useless. If I were going to drive somewhere I didn't want people to know about, I'd get a friend to borrow his mother's car, and let me drive it. Or, I'd steal my roommate's car while he/she was asleep. Or I'd take an ax, and give the RFID forty whacks.

Useless.

 

[Quantos]

Why go through all that trouble, just take the plate off, put it in the microwave for a few seconds Zappp, dead chip.

 

[OhhJim]

Why go through all that trouble, just take the plate off, put it in the microwave for a few seconds Zappp, dead chip.

Whacking it with an ax would be more fun!

 

[one love]

'may be comming to the US'? It's already been here for a while, just the media doesn't want you to know.

Sec. 601.507. SPECIAL INSPECTION CERTIFICATES.

(a) Commencing not later than January 1, 2006, the department shall issue or contract for the issuance of special inspection certificates to be affixed to motor vehicles that are inspected and found to be in proper and safe condition under Chapter 548.

(b) An inspection certificate under this section must contain a tamper-resistant transponder, and at a minimum, be capable of storing:

(1) the transponder's unique identification number; and

(2) the make, model, and vehicle identification number of the vehicle to which the certificate is affixed.

(c) In addition, the transponder must be compatible with:

(1) the automated vehicle registration and certificate of title system established by the Texas Department of Transportation; and

(2) interoperability standards established by the Texas Department of Transportation and other entities for use of the system of toll roads and toll facilities in this state.


http://www.infowars.com/articles/bb/rfid_tx_considers_tags_in_all_cars.htm

 

[Norseman]

'may be comming to the US'? It's already been here for a while, just the media doesn't want you to know.

Sec. 601.507. SPECIAL INSPECTION CERTIFICATES.

(a) Commencing not later than January 1, 2006, the department shall issue or contract for the issuance of special inspection certificates to be affixed to motor vehicles that are inspected and found to be in proper and safe condition under Chapter 548.

(b) An inspection certificate under this section must contain a tamper-resistant transponder, and at a minimum, be capable of storing:

(1) the transponder's unique identification number; and

(2) the make, model, and vehicle identification number of the vehicle to which the certificate is affixed.

(c) In addition, the transponder must be compatible with:

(1) the automated vehicle registration and certificate of title system established by the Texas Department of Transportation; and

(2) interoperability standards established by the Texas Department of Transportation and other entities for use of the system of toll roads and toll facilities in this state.


http://www.infowars.com/articles/bb/rfid_tx_considers_tags_in_all_cars.htm

It sounds like that only applies to Texas. As to the posts above, yes, using your friend's mother's car would be a good way to avoid surveilance. No, whacking the chip wouldn't work too well. If they make police cars that can identify the chips, they could probably spot cars that don't have working chips. If there's evidence of tampering you'd probably be fined. I suspect the chips will be used to keep people from speeding, but maybe not.

As far as I'm concerned, this is no better than sticking chips in people.

 

[Quantos]

Though if anyone ever watched the 5th element, I would support somthing like the driver licnese system they had.

I.E. a way for the Car to verrify that you'r using a Valid Driver Licnse, If not, the car would still run (Covering any "emergency" use), but would have an automated flashig light to identify it as opperating without a valid licnes.

 

[Vylo]

Microwave is prolly overkill (your microwave prolly wouldn't survive), I wonder if a few magnets would do the trick.

 

[Norseman]

Though if anyone ever watched the 5th element, I would support somthing like the driver licnese system they had.

I.E. a way for the Car to verrify that you'r using a Valid Driver Licnse, If not, the car would still run (Covering any "emergency" use), but would have an automated flashig light to identify it as opperating without a valid licnes.

Cut the wires to the lights. Problem solved.

 

[Redneck]

Sounds like another Law Enforcement for Revenue scam to me.

 

[one love]

It sounds like that only applies to Texas. As to the posts above, yes, using your friend's mother's car would be a good way to avoid surveilance. No, whacking the chip wouldn't work too well. If they make police cars that can identify the chips, they could probably spot cars that don't have working chips. If there's evidence of tampering you'd probably be fined. I suspect the chips will be used to keep people from speeding, but maybe not.

As far as I'm concerned, this is no better than sticking chips in people.

And you think Texas will be the only state?

 

[Norseman]

And you think Texas will be the only state?

No. I'm just saying it hasn't hit all of the US, yet. And if it goes badly in Texas, it may never go to the rest of the US.

 

[Quantos]

Microwave is prolly overkill (your microwave prolly wouldn't survive), I wonder if a few magnets would do the trick.

na unless you have access to Very High field electro magnets.

You need some way to burn out the coil/chip in the RFDI tag, Your standard Strong magnets wouldnt burn it out.

 

[Norseman]

na unless you have access to Very High field electro magnets.

You need some way to burn out the coil/chip in the RFDI tag, Your standard Strong magnets wouldnt burn it out.

I agree. The objective is to induce an electrical current in the chip. Just holding a magnet near it won't do the trick.

 

[mnphysicist]

The microwave would take it out... the ones in the UK are active tags, they have batteries, and as a result, getting hit with microwaves will ruin them.

In the US, if they became widespread, hackers would have a field day changing them, or even changing them on the fly. No need to take your mom's car, just reprogram your rfid module.
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Ron