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Drunkeness is a sin, and it can easily lead to other sins. However, most people can enjoy a few drinks without becoming drunk. Those who drink need to know their limit and if they cannot practice self control, they should abstain. Underage drinking is a sin because we are to obey the laws of the land. I believe that as a responsible adult, who knows my limit, I can have a few glasses of wine, all the while not worrying about sin.
 
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How do you know your limit? What if you can't control it? Alcohol is a desire of the flesh. I'm not saying its a sin, but it can lead to some bad things. Real bad things. Do the best you can to deny your fleshly desires. Trust me, its not easy, but I work at it everyday!
 
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Frame1520 said:
How do you know your limit? What if you can't control it? Alcohol is a desire of the flesh. I'm not saying its a sin, but it can lead to some bad things. Real bad things. Do the best you can to deny your fleshly desires. Trust me, its not easy, but I work at it everyday!

Alchol is a desire of the flesh just like food, clothing, and shelter. Anything can lead to bad things if not controlled. If you feel that denying yourself booze is better for your own person, then that is fine man. More power to you. Just know that there is no higher place in heaven for that position.
 
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Tuffguy said:
Alchol is a desire of the flesh just like food, clothing, and shelter. Anything can lead to bad things if not controlled. If you feel that denying yourself booze is better for your own person, then that is fine man. More power to you. Just know that there is no higher place in heaven for that position.

How do you know if you are going to be more susceptable to abusing alcohol than someone else? If you don't start, you won't have to find out, and you won't have to stop. There's no competition for position in heaven.
 
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Frame1520 said:
How do you know if you are going to be more susceptable to abusing alcohol than someone else?

Well, you just have to try, if you want to know :)

If you drink with moderation, there's no problem at all. You're always knowing what you're doing, don't worry!

Vodka+orange juice = :p (I'm getting provocative :) i haven't tasted more than one draft lol but seriously i liked it).
 
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Frame1520 said:
Argh...No one understands...If you don't start, you don't have to stop. I'm asking these questions rhetorically.

Its the same way with everything man. Sure, i a person is scared that they may like drinking too much then they shouldn't drink. If they have an addictive personality then they probally should stay away.
There are very very few people that dive right into alcholism after having a few drinks. People turn to the bottle when other things in their life are a mess. As Christians we turn to God.
 
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Ecclesiastes 3:1-10
1 For everything there is a season, and a time for every matter under heaven: 2 a time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up what is planted; 3 a time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up; 4 a time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance; 5 a time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing; 6 a time to seek, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away; 7 a time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak; 8 a time to love, and a time to hate; a time for war, and a time for peace. 9 What gain has the worker from his toil? 10 I have seen the business that God has given to the sons of men to be busy with.


I believe all things that are not evil are okay in moderation. Having a glass of wine with dinner once in awhile is not sinful. But when a person becomes drunk, then it is sin. And if someone has a habit of becoming drunk and/or drinking out of a habit or an addiction, then this too is sin because our body is the temple of the Holy Spirit and God cannot exist where evil exist and if a person is polluting their body with any kind of abuse... whether it is alcohol or drugs or purposely starving one's body from nutrition or purposely over eating to the point where it has profoundly effected your health's well being ... it is all harmful and thus sinful.

Another question along with the other questions is this: When we see our family hurting themselves, do we condemn them or do we reach out to them with love and compassion and truth? Do we put on the armor of God and with mercy embrace them with our heart and reach out to them with a message of hope, love and faith?

Yes, always preach the truth and always be honest, but do so, gently and with true mercy.

I hope this is helpful.

God's peace,

Debbie
 
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Jesusfreak811 said:
:wave: Hey everyone! I wanted to ask everyone's opinion on alcohol. I'v never really drank alot... even before I came to know the Lord. However, all through the year a friend of the family has parties (like halloween, Christmas eve, new years, ect.) and usually everyone has a few drinks. These are not the kind of parties where everyone gets drunk, has sex with someone they don't know, and passes out. It's just simple, friends getting together having a few drinks. My question to all of you is, how do you think God feels about alcohol?? Do you think that it is a sin?? Is is it a sin? Alot of people convert back to the bible about it. They say that Jesus drank wine. Well, my youth pastor used to tell us that if we could make wine the way the Lord did then we should feel free to drink. I don't know... I'm confused about it! Saturday is the Christmas eve party and I don't want to do anything to up set the Lord.:sigh:

God bless,
Teresa:help:
Drinking for social reasons is a bad reason to drink.

Personnally i would advice you to abstain from alcohol.
 
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I don't think drinking is wrong, but things that can happen when you become drunk CAN be wrong, or sinful. Therefore, it's up to that person to decide whether or not they can drink responsibly or drink in moderation, or not at all.
To me, a little bit of wine at dinner or something is not a bad thing, but I would make sure that it's safe and that I'm not driving, or that there is someone to take care of me if I can't take care of myself....
But I know lots of people who don't drink at all, because they see the effects that alcohol can have on people, and don't want to become like that themselves....
 
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keep the drinking it check, don't go over your limit, don't even think in terms of limits, just think that jesus drank wine, he was fien with drinking, BUT it was like you mentioned, in the company of friends and it NEVER was a vice for Jesus. That's the thing, it shouldn't be destructive. in any way. Pray about it though. it always delivers the best answer
 
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Buttermilk said:
IMHO (but others do have different views), I have no problems with taking a few drinks, and being in the company of those who drink, but respect those who choose not to drink.

No I do not think personally it is a sin.

At the end of the day nobody can make the choice for you, it has to be your decision wheither or not you want to drink.

Agreed, if you wanna drink, then drink. If the someone dont want to drink, dont force them to, respect their decision. Drinking til you throw up and waking up with the biggets hangover is not the best idea. Knowing your limit is the smart way to drink imo.
 
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ZACTAK said:
I personally think it is fine as long as you drink in moderation as the BIBLE says. It doesn't outline anywhere that drinking is a sin, however it does say drunkeness is!

Exactly. There is way to much of "you think, i think" in this thread. The Bible covers this topic fully. There really is no mystery about it. Practically apply what the Bible says.
 
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