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Dragons?!?!

adamas

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When i talk about dragons, im not talking about a metaphor or something about some form of satan/antichrist/deamon. I'm talking about the winged medeval lizard thingies what spout fire and soforth.
Now my question is. . .can those type creatures have/do exist?

i think YES because. . .well, of several reasons, one main one being that in nearly every culture, there are stories of them. . .altho some do come in different forms, there are stories nontheless, and even culturs who have never really met other cultures with similar stories have similar storie.
i kinda started this post off of the statement that all myth has base in fact. i just wana know what yall think. . .and not just dragons but other things as well. . .phonex, griffin, etc.
 
When you examine the dragons of different cultures, you find that they are almost always simply a hypebrole of the largest local avian and reptilians. You find many of the myths concerning dragons themselves (Deeds, etc) similar from one culture to another. This simply indicates a common cultural ancestry.

Dragons, like phoenices, unicorns, and mermaids are myths that pervade culture but simply do not exist.
 
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adamas said:
When i talk about dragons, im not talking about a metaphor or something about some form of satan/antichrist/deamon. I'm talking about the winged medeval lizard thingies what spout fire and soforth.
Now my question is. . .can those type creatures have/do exist? .

I don’t think so no. Quite apart from the notion of something that size flying, they are generally depicted as 6 limbed (2 wings 4 legs) in western myth and as another poster pointed out a week or two ago you don’t generally get 6 limbed vertebrates. Then there is the entire fire breathing thing, that present several problems.

adamas said:
i think YES because. . .well, of several reasons, one main one being that in nearly every culture, there are stories of them. . .altho some do come in different forms, there are stories nontheless, and even culturs who have never really met other cultures with similar stories have similar storie. .

Vampire myths are more universal than Dragon myths, and have less variability for that matter, I don’t think they exist either. On close inspection Dragon myths from around the world are not that similar. No I think it is more likely that when we se a universal myth of this sort it speaks to something in the human psyche rather than points to a real creature.

adamas said:
i kinda started this post off of the statement that all myth has base in fact. i just wana know what yall think. . .and not just dragons but other things as well. . .phonex, griffin, etc.

Well, the creatures of Greek myth are generally allegorical creatures intended to embody certain disapproved of or culturally unacceptable ideas and notions, or simply a combination of fearsome thinks thrown together to give the hero a foil, the hero himself generally being an idealised perfect specimen of manhood for the period.

Take the Heracles myth for example, a perfect example of what Greece wanted men to be at the time, later supplanted by a more cerebral hero, hence Heracles is actively replaced by Jason during the course of Homers Odyssey to illustrate how one ideal of Greek man hood has been replaced by another.

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There's always this theory:

*inserts tongue into cheek*

-Satan is an angel (albeit a fallen one). Satan is sometimes referred to as the Great Dragon.
-Some dragons have wings. Some angels have wings.
-Angels appear to be Heaven's administrative staff. In Chinese mythology, dragons run the celestial bureaucracy.
-In ancient times, people saw angels all the time. In ancient times, people saw dragons all the time.
-Today, if someone claims to have seen an angel, they are referred to a psychologist. If someone claims to have seen a dragon, they are also referred to a psychologist.

Ergo, angels are dragons. :D

-Atara (huge dragon fan! ;) )
 
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MG Casey said:
Isn't there something about a dragon-type creature in Job?
Leviathan. Sounds exactly like a marine dragon....fire breathing, smoke snorting and everything.


And people wonder why I cant take the bible literally.
 
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Vance said:
That Animal Planet show has a lot to answer for!
It really does. There have already been several threads in which agents have had to run damage control for the EAC. If people only knew what wonders the EAC scientists are keeping hidden from the public! :D

In response to the OP:

It's true, dragons really do exist because a bunch of cultures believe in them. Same thing with the global flood, griffins, hydras, faeries, ghosts, UFOs, and multiple gods. The EAC just keeps it under wraps because we don't want people to know the Truth. That and some of the species of dragons are endangered. They definitely wouldn't survive poaching. They had a hard time with a few medieval knights, for Pete's sake.
 
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There are no such things as dragons. They said so during the program, which was supposed to be an assumption of, if dragons existed, what would they have been like.

I did find their view of dragons to be extremely refreshing and very scholarly, but my favorite dragons shall always be those from the Dungeons and Dragons game, to which there is a rulebook that deals specifically on dragons and goes into detail about them. Fantasy, sure enough, but also scholarly as well.
 
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Did you know that the Komodo dragon's diet is so vile, that there is enough bacteria in its saliva to severly infect and usually kill its bitten victim? That is probably where the "fire-breathing" came from.








Or, even better, maybe the dragons in stories are MADE UP

BUT WHAT DO I KNOW?

I hope this isn't visible...
 
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Everybody is wrong here.

Dragons do not have wings, and have only 4 limbs. They do not need wings to fly. They can occasionally take the form of a human.

Dragons do not breathe fire, but instead they are responsivle in bringing rain. Because they have such responsibility, they have to answer to the Jade Emperor.

Instead of living in caves hoarding treasure, they live in water, especially in seas. The most famous are the dragon kings of the north, south, east and west seas.
 
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Bargainfluger said:

Or, even better, maybe the dragons in stories are MADE UP

BUT WHAT DO I KNOW?

I hope this isn't visible...
Only to those using white backgrounds!

In other news, I think dragons are real in my imagination. Awww... isn't that special!
 
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Beastt said:
Dragons, just like gods, are purely mythical. The popularity of a myth in no way increases the chance of it being more than a myth.
It is generally agreed now that scientists think that it does if you really really believe hard enough.
this site prooves it www.magicisafact.com
Roman said:
Dragons are real. I saw them in a movie once.
I saw that one too, don't you think that guy who did the thing was a bit unusual?

funyun said:
One problem with dragons is that they have 6 limbs and there's no know vertebrates (correct me if I'm wrong) who have more than 4.
Your garden variety Euro dragon does, however the asian sort seems not to being more of chimera than entirely imaginative.

bargainfluger said:
Did you know that the Komodo dragon's diet is so vile, that there is enough bacteria in its saliva to severly infect and usually kill its bitten victim? That is probably where the "fire-breathing" came from.
Seems a bit of a streee-eetch to me.
 
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