Does willful sin separate the elect from God?

[CharismaticLady]

If one is "walking in the Spirit (of God)", how can they do works of the flesh?

10 In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother (or sister) (Prejudice is also a form of hate)

 

[CharismaticLady]

Do "servants of Christ" still "serve sin"? (John 8:32-34)

Why don't you ever include verses 35 and 36? They are the conclusion of what He was saying. I usually quote 34-36, but seeing as you go from 32, I now quote 32-36 because those first two also have a good message.

 

[Phil W]

Yet we are not He.

Correct, we are His brethren. (Heb 2:11)
We are born of the same seed that cannot bring forth evil fruit. (1 John 3:9)

 

[Phil W]

Biblical grace is the important grace. Paul beat himself up black and blue to get a desired result, but God told him His grace was sufficient. The examples of Grace you gave resulted in Lazarus being resurrected TEMPORARILY, the multitude fed TEMPORARILY, etc.

I don't see how you can differentiate between the 'two'?
Wasn't God's grace also 'sufficient' to raise Lazarus and feed the 5000?
Wasn't Paul's time on earth 'temporary'?

God's grace, available through confession,...

Scripture, please.

...leads to sharing in Christ's work, being a blessing to the world.

I hope you agree with me in that sinners are no "blessing to the world".

 

[Phil W]

fruit of the Spirit ripen

I would posit that the fruit of the Spirit never bears sin.
It can only bring forth after it's own kind.

 

[Phil W]

Why don't you ever include verses 35 and 36? They are the conclusion of what He was saying. I usually quote 34-36, but seeing as you go from 32, I now quote 32-36 because those first two also have a good message.

Yes, but not pertinent to the truth making us free from sin.

 

[CharismaticLady]

I would posit that the fruit of the Spirit never bears sin.
It can only bring forth after it's own kind.

Did you ever read the Lord's Prayer?

 

[CharismaticLady]

Yes, but not pertinent to the truth making us free from sin.

It does to the reason why He makes us free from willful sin. Abiding in the house forever.

 

[Phil W]

Did you ever read the Lord's Prayer?

Yup, another prayer by Jesus that has been answered in the affirmative.

 

[CharismaticLady]

Yup, another prayer by Jesus that has been answered in the affirmative.

What are you saying?

 

[Phil W]

It
goes to the reason why He makes us free from willful sin. Abiding in the house forever.

How many accidental sins did Jesus commit?

 

[CharismaticLady]

How many accidental sins did Jesus commit?

Do you know what a trespass is?

 

[Phil W]

What are you saying?

Jesus' OT prayer has been answered.
His kingdom is here.
His will is being done on earth as it is in heaven.
We are given our daily bread every day.
Our trespasses have been forgiven.
He doesn't lead us into temptation.
He delivers us from evil.

 

[Phil W]

Do you know what a trespass is?

Sin...all unrighteousness. (1 John 5:17)

 

[CharismaticLady]

Sin...all unrighteousness. (1 John 5:17)

A trespass is a sin unwittingly committed. In other words, unintentional. We need to forgive each other if we want our trespasses forgiven.

O our Father who art in heaven,
Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come.
Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive them that trespass
against us.
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever.
Amen.

 

[Grip Docility]

Sin...all unrighteousness. (1 John 5:17)

There is only one sin unto death. Jesus said this and John is restating it.

It is spoken of when Jesus casts the demon out.

 

[Grip Docility]

A trespass is a sin unwittingly committed. In other words, unintentional.

Sin is “missing the mark”.

The mark is Christ.

The Law of Sin and Death is what defines all sin.

 

[CharismaticLady]

Sin is “missing the mark”.

The mark is Christ.

The Law of Sin and Death is what defines all sin.

It is the only type of sin in the Lord's Prayer.

O our Father who art in heaven,
Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come.
Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive them that trespass against us.
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever.
Amen.

 

[CharismaticLady]

Jesus' OT prayer has been answered.
His kingdom is here.
His will is being done on earth as it is in heaven.
We are given our daily bread every day.
Our trespasses have been forgiven.
He doesn't lead us into temptation.
He delivers us from evil.

You say you don't commit trespasses, right? You treat everyone perfectly, right?

 

[Phil W]

A trespass is a sin unwittingly committed. In other words, unintentional. We need to forgive each other if we want our trespasses forgiven.

Scripture, please.
Why would you need to forgive someone for accidentally 'hurting' you?
It wasn't on purpose.
They were not enticed, tempted, or satisfying some lust. (James 1:14-15)