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Can you show the environment was the same in Genesis 1 as it is today?The laws of physics have been tried and tried, and tried again, by various individuals and they always work the same way.
Can you show the environment was the same in Genesis 1 as it is today?
The laws may indeed be consistent, but work differently under a different environment.
Are there scientific errors in the Bible?
A reasonable examination of the Bible shows the answer to be no.
Can you show the environment was the same in Genesis 1 as it is today?
The laws may indeed be consistent, but work differently under a different environment.
And I can show you deep time goes against the Scriptures.I can show the environment was roughly the same for over 800,000 years in various ice core samples from around the world.
4004 BCMichael said:When are you claiming Genesis 1 occurred?
I can't.Michael said:How can you demonstrate that the environment was ever much different than it is today?
Can you show the environment was the same in Genesis 1 as it is today?
Should I take that as a NO?Gensis 1 is a myth,
Fair enough.You seams to think this is something which is just assumed to be the case, but physicist has actually tested this and the answer is "no!" - the basic law are the same independent on any changes in the environment.
Nature was different back then.What laws do you have in mind? As was noted, most scientific laws apply throughout time. That's why tey are called laws.
Nature was different back then.
I'm gong to to ahead and assume the laws of nature that run the universe today weren't as constant as they were back in Genesis 1.
No death.
No entropy.
Pristine gene pool.
Speed of light faster.
All life on earth appeared within three days' time.
Some of it does -- some of it doesn't.So, science agrees with the Bible,
The "change" came later, when God withdrew a major part of His influence and let nature take over.Gene2memE said:... but only if you completely change the way that reality works.
The scientific laws of the universe were embedded into God's creation; but were held in subordination to a higher power.You can't assumer that, AV1611. You have no evidence that was the case, and also you are dealing with scientific laws, which are understood as fixed and unchangeable, one of the few constants in en ever-changing world.
I've posited before that the universe back then may have run off of perpetual motion.The environment has to be the same. Otherwise, no animals could have been present.
Science is myopic.But there is no evidence of their being anything like that back then. Setterfield started the rumor that c ws ant infinite velocity back then. He had no real evidence. He argued that this was true , as estimates of c have gotten slower over time. However, the latter is incorrect. Also, physicists have time and again measured light and it remains constant. All we have is what we can know today. We have to go on what we do know, not on what we don't. Since light evidences no change, then it is logical to assume it always went at the same speed.
Almost sounds like a cult. Why not post in the thread you are in? Want to get folks off in a corner?
Yes, for although the Bible is not a science textbook, it is accurate when it mentions matters of science. Consider some examples showing that science and the Bible agree and that the Bible contains scientific facts that differed greatly from the beliefs of many people living at the time it was written.
Are there scientific errors in the Bible?
- The universe had a beginning. (Genesis 1:1) In contrast, many ancient myths describe the universe, not as being created, but as being organized from existing chaos. The Babylonians believed that the gods that gave birth to the universe came from two oceans. Other legends say that the universe came from a giant egg.
- The universe is governed day-to-day by rational natural laws, not by the whims of deities. (Job 38:33; Jeremiah 33:25) Myths from around the world teach that humans are helpless before the unpredictable and sometimes merciless acts of the gods.
- The earth is suspended in empty space. (Job 26:7) Many ancient peoples believed that the world was a flat disk supported by a giant or an animal, such as a buffalo or a turtle.
- Rivers and springs are fed by water that has evaporated from the oceans and other sources and then has fallen back to earth as rain, snow, or hail. (Job 36:27, 28; Ecclesiastes 1:7; Isaiah 55:10; Amos 9:6) The ancient Greeks thought that rivers were fed by underground ocean water, and this idea persisted into the 18th century.
- The mountains rise and fall, and today’s mountains were once under the ocean. (Psalm 104:6, 8) In contrast, several myths say that the mountains were created in their current form by the gods.
- Sanitary practices protect health. The Law given to the nation of Israel included regulations for washing after touching a dead body, quarantining those with infectious disease, and disposing of human waste safely. (Leviticus 11:28; 13:1-5; Deuteronomy 23:13) By contrast, one of the Egyptian remedies in use when these commands were given called for applying to an open wound a mixture that included human excrement.
A reasonable examination of the Bible shows the answer to be no. Here are some common misconceptions about the scientific accuracy of the Bible:
Myth: The Bible says that the universe was created in six 24-hour days.
Fact: According to the Bible, God created the universe in the indefinite past. (Genesis 1:1) Also, the days of creation described in chapter 1 of Genesis were epochs whose length is not specified. In fact, the entire period during which earth and heaven were made is also called a “day.”—Genesis 2:4.
Myth: The Bible says that vegetation was created before the sun existed to support photosynthesis.—Genesis 1:11, 16.
Fact: The Bible shows that the sun, one of the stars that make up “the heavens,” was created before vegetation. (Genesis 1:1) Diffused light from the sun reached the earth’s surface during the first “day,” or epoch, of creation. As the atmosphere cleared, by the third “day” of creation, the light was strong enough to support photosynthesis. (Genesis 1:3-5,12, 13) Only later did the sun become distinctly visible from the surface of the earth.—Genesis 1:16.
Myth: The Bible says that the sun revolves around the earth.
Fact: Ecclesiastes 1:5 says: “The sun rises, and the sun sets; then it hurries back to the place where it rises again.” However, this statement merely describes the apparent motion of the sun as viewed from the earth. Even today, a person can use the words “sunrise” and “sunset,” yet he knows that the earth revolves around the sun.
Myth: The Bible says that the earth is flat.
Fact: The Bible uses the phrase “the ends of the earth” to mean “the most distant part of the earth”; this does not imply that the earth is flat or that it has an edge. (Acts 1:8; footnote) Likewise, the expression “the four corners of the earth” is a figure of speech referring to the entire surface of the earth; today a person might use the four points of the compass as a similar metaphor.—Isaiah 11:12; Luke 13:29.
Myth: The Bible says that the circumference of a circle is exactly three times its diameter, but the correct value is pi (π), or about 3.1416.
Fact: The measurements of “the Sea of cast metal” given at 1 Kings 7:23 and 2 Chronicles 4:2 indicate that it had a diameter of 10 cubits and that “it took a measuring line 30 cubits long to encircle it.” These dimensions might have been merely the nearest round numbers. It is also possible that the circumference and diameter represented inner and outer measurements of the basin respectively.
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