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Does learning about evolution make you uncomfortable?

Does learning about evolution make you uncomfortable?

  • I am an evolutionist and learning about evolution makes me uncomfortable.

    Votes: 1 2.2%
  • I am an evolutionist and learning about evolution does NOT make me uncomfortable.

    Votes: 34 73.9%
  • I am an creationist and learning about evolution makes me uncomfortable.

    Votes: 2 4.3%
  • I am an creationist and learning about evolution does NOT make me uncomfortable.

    Votes: 9 19.6%

  • Total voters
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loveofourlord

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Proto-monkey works better, I think. Since it's a phrase that means it is a monkey, but is also the first group of monkeys, sort of.
Although I still maintain we should accept we're lemurs and go around bouncing sideways.

hehe true :> There is just this bizzare fixation on modern names that bothrs me in phylogeny like I said.

Like if dogs ever evolved into a insect bird like creature, it still be a dog, rather then what what ever chitenous mammals would be called.
 
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hehe true :> There is just this bizzare fixation on modern names that bothrs me in phylogeny like I said.

Like if dogs ever evolved into a insect bird like creature, it still be a dog, rather then what what ever chitenous mammals would be called.

A dogapede!
A dant!

Although, as someone who likes to write and very often struggles with coming up with names, many times it's just easier to use what we already have instead of wholly creating new names.
... lemonkey.
 
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though I would be curious if wolves can mate with coyotes, and foxes and such.
Coyotes definitely... they had a problem with trying to re-introduce wolves into areas was that rather then staying in the little pack/family groups they had been artificially put into many of them went off and joined coyote packs. End result, no wolves and bigger coyotes.

Proto-monkey works better, I think. Since it's a phrase that means it is a monkey, but is also the first group of monkeys, sort of.
Although I still maintain we should accept we're lemurs and go around bouncing sideways.
Meh. If you saw one in a zoo you'd call it a monkey.

The ancestor of lemurs and monkeys would probably look pretty lemur-y to our human centric eyes... but there are too many outward similarities that we define as "monkey" between old and new world monkeys to not assume they were a part of the ancestral common population.
 
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Meh. If you saw one in a zoo you'd call it a monkey.

The ancestor of lemurs and monkeys would probably look pretty lemur-y to our human centric eyes... but there are too many outward similarities that we define as "monkey" between old and new world monkeys to not assume they were a part of the ancestral common population.

... I'm still preferring the lemur connection.
 
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All mammals end up as some kind of hedge-hog/rat type critter if you go back far enough.

... I did want to make a joke about this (since I'm unfortunately in that sort of mood right now) but I got nothing.

I would still like to have seen the first transitional species between... well, would it have scales then hair, or would it have gone scales - something else - hair?
 
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... I did want to make a joke about this (since I'm unfortunately in that sort of mood right now) but I got nothing.

I would still like to have seen the first transitional species between... well, would it have scales then hair, or would it have gone scales - something else - hair?

DUUHHh obviously the LCA of all mamals is the naked mole rat!!! ahem :>
 
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... I did want to make a joke about this (since I'm unfortunately in that sort of mood right now) but I got nothing.

I would still like to have seen the first transitional species between... well, would it have scales then hair, or would it have gone scales - something else - hair?
I'm picturing some kind of Permian fat lizard-rat blob with scaly skin and a furry mohawk along its spine.
 
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though on a serious note, might not be the answer, but I think the LCA of mamals and reptiles were mamal like reptiles or something along those lines.

No yeah, I can imagine. As shemjaza pointed out.
 
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