Some say the Church is now made up of Gentiles and has replaced Israel. That is pure nonsense, because the Church is made up of both Israelite and Gentile Christians. I have had Jewish Christians in my home for Bible Study.
During the first few years of the Church it was mainly made up of Israelites.
The Gentiles were grafted in among the Israelites a few years later.
Replacement Theology is replacing the Children of the Promise in Romans 9:8 with the children of the Flesh, based on race.
You are also replacing the everlasting (Hebrews 13:20) New Covenant Church of Christ with a race of people living in the modern state of Israel.
Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of all of the Old Testament promises just as He said on the road to Emmaus.
It is not a nation based on bloodline.
You keep trying to ignore Galatians chapter 3.
The Promise was not made to the many seeds.
Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
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baberean2,
1. Sorry, but you are wrong again.
2. Galatians is talking about salvation and we are heirs according to the promise of salvation by grace according to the death, burial, and resurrection.
3. In salvation there is neither jew nor greek, neither bond nor free, neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
4. Everyone is on the same playing ground or same level. Salvation is for the whole world and everyone knows this that understands John 3:16.
5. The physical seeds of jew, greeks, bond, free, male and female are all in the body of Christ if they are a believer today and they are one in Christ spiritually and one is not above the other in the act of salvation.
6. You are taking the many seeds to discount Israel's calling as the head of the nations and that is wrong and not scriptural.
7. Salvation for a person has never been about race for the gentile was saved first because there were no jews. When the jews come through Abraham they had a complete theocracy and were under no secular or gentile government. They were committed the oracles of God and they were to be the light to the gentiles and yes people were proselyted into Judaism and this is true because gentiles didn't really have a covenant such as the jews.
8. Today jews are not proselyted into gentile christianity anymore than gentiles into judaism or messianic judaism. We are all one in Christ through salvation.
9. In the tribulation the church will be in heaven and the jews will be on earth with other gentile believers. However, the second half which is the time of Jacob's trouble will be the focus of the Jewish nation being reborn into a complete believing nation to inherit the earth at the head of the nations.
10. The new covenant will be the standard of grace that people will have to be saved by in the millennial kingdom just like in the church age.
11. Nobody will be proselyted into Judaism in the millennial kingdom but the civil law will be enacted and they will have to abide by that if they don't believe and make a confession of Christ during that time.
12. For those that do come to Christ it will have to be through the new covenant and this is evident in Jeremiah 31:31-34 and Hebrews 8:7-13. Israel as a nation has never accepted Christ and the new covenant and they have not got to the place where they don't have to be taught of any man for all shall know God which is talking about the jewish nation. You seem to think this part of the prophecy has been fulfilled and it hasn't and if you say it has you can't prove it scripturally or historically.
13. Peter told some of what Joel spoke of on the Day of Pentecost that manifested but it was not fulfilled according to Joel's full prophecy of the renovation of nature and the armies of the palmerworm, cankerworm, etc being destroyed etc.
14. No blood line has ever had anything to do with being saved. John 1:12; But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name. Verse 13; Which were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. Salvation is only a work of God no matter if it is the jew being the light to the world or the gentile or the jews and gentiles. It is not of blood or bloodline. So you are wrong again scripturally.
15. You are trying to say because of the proselyting gentiles into Judaism etc. is the same as basing salvation on a race or bloodline. You are wrong and dead wrong and don't know what you are talking about.
16. You are also trying to manipulate the term of the KOG as being the physical kingdom reign on earth in this passage when it is speaking of the spiritual aspect KOH as in Matthew 6:33 and Luke 17:20-21.
17. Hebrews 13:20; The new covenant is everlasting and nobody is trying to replace the new covenant. That is just your dishonest assessment of what you think I am saying and I have told and proved you wrong time and time again. You are more or less saying I am lying but my posts prove otherwise.
18. Israel will be under the new covenant in the millennial kingdom when they become the head of the nations. They will have to believe in the new covenant to receive Christ as their Savior at the end of the tribulation.
19. They couldn't receive the new covenant in Christ ministry because it was never prophesied that they would accept him but reject him just like Isaiah 53 said. The old covenant was still in effect in Christ ministry and the new covenant which is an everlasting covenant was not until Christ died and rose again.
20. First was Adam and Eve who were gentiles then after the flood was Noah and his three sons who were gentiles and then you had Abraham who was a gentile and called out of the land of Ur which was a sinful nation to start the jewish race.
Abraham was the Father of the promise as well as to his seed, Isaac and Jacob and Christ and this is talking about the spiritual seed which actually came through Issac and not Ishmael. Jacob was preferred over Esau and they went through the Egyptian slavery and Moses took them out of Egypt to the promised land and the law was established then. Joshua actually took them into the promised land because of Moses disobedience and he was a type of Christ etc.
21. After the judges came the Kings of Israel's persistence of wanting one. Saul was replaced by David who was a man after God's own heart and then the Davidic covenant through the jews was born. Both Abraham and David's concerning the jews and the physical land and kingdom are unconditional eternal covenants conditioned by obedience to Christ.
22. Israel was oppressed by Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome because of their ongoing disobedience to God.
23. The church was predestined because of the prophecy of the rejection of the Messiah by his people, and because Jesus had to die for the whole world so salvation would come upon all men. This is how it was prophesied to unfold. This didn't annul the promises about the specific land and kingdom positions of Israel in the millennial kingdom and this is what you refuse to believe because you want to hang your hat on an absurd lie about the callings of Israel without repentance as not being true.
24. Also, you believe that they are not to fulfill those callings because we are all one in Christ according to salvation and it would be wrong to do so which is anti-semitic.
Now you say that you are not anti-semitic because you minister or support a ministry to the jews and that is fine. However, it is not right to take away their covenant promises and give it to the church. This is why it is important to understand the KOH and the KOG message in its proper perspective. Why? When this is not and can cause the people of God to lose hope in the future. It can hinder the church in evangelism and cause people to miss salvation. It can cause destroy one's confidence in the risen Lord and promote a feeling that christianity is a failure. It will have people focus 1900 year and now much more on Christ on the cross and not the living Christ seated in the throne room. This is from the Kingdom Series Volume 1 by Dr. Hubert T. Lindsey.
25. When people think that Christ taught the gospel of the death, burial and resurrection like we know today it can cause the spirit of the law and defeat in one's life and miss salvation.
26. Jesus teachings were do, do, do under the old covenant law of Moses and our message is what he did, what he did, what he did under the new covenant of Christ.
27. I have already explained Romans 9:8 and all you have done is disagree and not rebut or prove it wrong because you can't.
28. The children of the flesh are those who are jews that don't believe. Those that believe are the children of God. This is the same for unbelieving and believing gentiles.
29. You are manipulating a few scriptures and words and not showing the whole context which is about salvation and not about the callings and gifts of Israel.
Paul explains this in Romans 11:1-2, 25-29 and you refuse to believe it. What do you think the gifts and callings are of Israel? And why are they without repentance.
30. There are some people who believe that the church is just gentiles and I disagree with that also. I have said repeatedly the church is jews and gentiles and this is the church age.
31. In the millennial kingdom there will be the church of jews and gentiles as rulers etc. but the head of the nations will be physical Israel.
32. Show me one scripture that says point blank that gentile will be mixed in with physical Israel in the millennial kingdom at the head of nations. You can't show me and that is why you come up with this whole scenario of the spiritual jew etc. and that Christ will be at the head of the nations. Well, Christ will be the head of the earth and David will be king over Israel and the apostles over the 12 tribes and you think it is just to have a physical nation? If so, who is at the head of the nations? Christ is not going to be at the head of the nations by himself and there is nowhere that says the church will be at the head of the nations. So what is your straight answer to these questions? Jerry kelso