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Does God's word consider Benny Hinn False?

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gailmac said:
Don't you think if Benny Hinn said he was under the anointing when God told him the Gays would be wiped out by fire in the mid 90s.....means he is not speaking for God and would have been killed (Deut. 18:20)
The New Testament requirements for a NT prophet are different than those for the OT prophet.
First off.... is he claiming to even be a prophet? I don't know. I have not see him. But even if he was, the test of a NT prophet is tied up in the NT mission. We are called to the ministry of reconciliation. A true NT prophet will speak words of reconciliation, not of words of condemnation. The OT is the ministry of death by the law. It is full of condemnation. Sometimes NT ministers get off into the wrong ministration. We are supposed to be ministering reconciliation, not condemnation. I think old BH just got off into the wrong testament.
Even there... it is not the false prediction that is the real problem. People make mistakes and this is likely one of them. The real problem is the ministry
of condemnation that is coming out.
 
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Benny claims to be a prophet because he claims that he has had revelations. He claims to be a prophet because he states God told him that such and such will happen in the future. Oh and BTW every pastor is a prophet also. But not in the way Benny is claiming. And yes speaking that God said something false is condemmed in the OT and the NT.
 
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Mt 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Mt 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

Mt 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
 
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Yes, he is false for both his prophecies and for his false teachings.

False prophecy is still condemned in the NT.



And yes speaking that God said something false is condemmed in the OT and the NT..

Thanks for the opinions guys.

(I could not help but notice there was no supporting scripture...)

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didaskalos said:
Thanks for the opinions guys.

(I could not help but notice there was no supporting scripture...)
And it's wasn't lost on us that you didn't bother to show any scripture to demonstrate your claim that false prophecy is somehow acceptable in the NT because, as you said, "people make mistakes".
 
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And it's wasn't lost on us that you didn't bother to show any scripture to demonstrate your claim that false prophecy is somehow acceptable in the NT because, as you said, "people make mistakes".
Whoa bro! I never said "false prophesy is acceptable."

What I said was that making mistakes does not make you a false prophet.

1 John 4:1

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false
prophets have gone out into the world


Thanks Lotar, 1 John is one of my favorite books.

Let's look at the context of this quote, ok?

1Jo 4

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Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Ahhh!! Look at that! Is this Benny Hinn? Does he deny that Jesus is come in the flesh? Does he deny that Jesus died for our sins or that God raised Him from the dead. According to the full quote, you would have to deny Christ came in the flesh to be a NT false prophet. As much as we may not like Benny... this could not apply to him... could it?
I really do not know enough about BH to say yea or nea... but based on what I have heard here so far... all I can say about him is that he is a badly mistaken believer.
 
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didaskalos said:
Whoa bro! I never said "false prophesy is acceptable."

What I said was that making mistakes does not make you a false prophet.


That's exactly what you said by trying to excuse Benny Hinn and his false prophecies.



 
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MikeMcK said:
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That's exactly what you said by trying to excuse Benny Hinn and his false prophecies.

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Well.... I think I know what I am saying, and I am in no way excusing anyone for making mistakes. We all do. I do think we should verify what we are saying before we say it. If he is a new testament false prophet, lets use scripture to prove it and not just make accusations.
 
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Lotar said:
Benny Hinn fakes healings and prophesies to get as much money out of people as possible. He is a false prophet, and he shall surely pay on judgement day.
If he is wrong.. he will pay on judgement day, just as we all will for doing wrong. But if you will take the time to read the NT says about false prophets, you will find it is impossible for a believer be a false prophet. All NT false prophets are unbelievers who are masking themselves as believers. That is the definition of a NT false prophet. If you have proof that BH is not a believer, then you very well may be correct in your judging him. If you are wrong, then you no better then he, and you also will be facing loss on judgment day. If he is a believer, then the worse you can say about him is that he is blaspheming, or sinning in some way such as lying or whatever. He is in trouble for sure... but that does not make him a false prophet by NT definition.

We need to be careful how we toss judgment around. We need to be sure what we are talking about before we make such statements.
 
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Jer 14:14 Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.

Ezek 13:2 [NIV] "Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel who are now prophesying. Say to those who prophesy out of their own imagination: 'Hear the word of the LORD!
Ezek 13:3 This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Woe to the foolish prophets who follow their own spirit and have seen nothing!
Ezek 13:4 Your prophets, O Israel, are like jackals among ruins.
Ezek 13:5 You have not gone up to the breaks in the wall to repair it for the house of Israel so that it will stand firm in the battle on the day of the LORD.
Ezek 13:6 Their visions are false and their divinations a lie. They say, "The LORD declares," when the LORD has not sent them; yet they expect their words to be fulfilled.
Ezek 13:7 Have you not seen false visions and uttered lying divinations when you say, "The LORD declares," though I have not spoken?
Ezek 13:8 "'Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: Because of your false words and lying visions, I am against you, declares the Sovereign LORD.
Ezek 13:9 My hand will be against the prophets who see false visions and utter lying divinations. They will not belong to the council of my people or be listed in the records of the house of Israel, nor will they enter the land of Israel. Then you will know that I am the Sovereign LORD.

Not NT, but applicable
 
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Matthew 7: 15-23
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
 
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"He [Jesus] who is righteous by choice said, 'The only way I can stop sin is by Me becoming it. I can't just stop it by letting it touch Me; I and it must become one.' Hear this! He who is the nature of God became the nature of Satan where He became sin!"Benny Hinn
 
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didaskalos said:
Well.... I think I know what I am saying, and I am in no way excusing anyone for making mistakes.
The whole message of your post is that he shouldn't be considered a false prophet because everyone "makes mistakes".

If he is a new testament false prophet, lets use scripture to prove it and not just make accusations.
You still haven't demonstrated that a "new Testament false prophet" is any less a false prophet than an "Old Testament false prophet" or that there even is a difference.

You keep telling us to use scripture but you're the one making the claim so it's up to you to demonstrate it and you're not even using scipture.

There is no difference. The standard is still 100% accuracy.

Hinn fails the test because his prophecies have not come true. He is mocking God to say that these things come from God when they don't.

He also fails the test in his teachings. He's a false teacher. Why any CHristian would listen to this guy, much less defend him, is beyond me.
 
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