Does God's word consider Benny Hinn False?

[Blackhawk]

If you want to live long and see good days, its best you quit judging and condeming other people.

1Pe 3:10 For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile

Brother Hagin and the Copelands have refused to answer their critics. They let God handle their accusers and just faithfully do what they've been called to, after all, at the end of the day, they answer to God, not their critics.

I hope Benny Hinn will do the same. And those who support Benny Hinn and the other WOF people should do likewise too, and just let these self-appointed church policemen 'die' a natural death.

Well I am glad Paul spoke his mind and was a church policeman. If he had not then maybe we would all be living by the letter of the law.

 

[MikeMcK]

I just have a quick question brothers and sisters,
regardless of whether he is a false prophet or not, do you think some people are still being healed by God through his ministry?

Two ministries, The Trinity Foundation and the Christian Research Intstitute have challenged Hinn to submit his "three best healings" for medical scrutiny.

In the case of CRI, all three were debunked. In the case of the Trinity Foundation, he submitted five Four were debunked and one was inconclusive.

It's a common tactic for a faith healer to to pack his audience with "plants", that is, actors paid by Hinn to pretend to be sick and Hinn has been found to have done the same thing.

Of those who were legitimate, two have died after Hinn claimed to have healed them.

 

[Rising_Suns]

how do you know they were debunked? Do you realize that I just can't your word for it?

 

[Andrew]

Well I am glad Paul spoke his mind and was a church policeman. If he had not then maybe we would all be living by the letter of the law.

That would make Paul the biggest worker of the flesh. He spoke by the Spirit, not his mind (which is what heresy hunters motivated by jealousy and hate do). He corrected and rebuked those who were trying to introduce law into grace and pervert the grace message. He was not correcting and rebuking fellow Christians for having big and successful healing ministries. And by the way, who appointed you and called you to be the watchdog?

It's a common tactic for a faith healer to to pack his audience with "plants", that is, actors paid by Hinn to pretend to be sick and Hinn has been found to have done the same thing.

I'm sure the pharisees said the same thing about Jesus.

 

[Lanakila]

You are comparing Benny Hinn's healings with those of Jesus?

 

[MikeMcK]

how do you know they were debunked?

Because the reports of the findings were published. I would also add that two of Hinn's followers died after having been pronounced healed by him. I'd say that right there is a pretty good debunking.

There's an excellent book called "The Confusing World of Benny Hinn" that goes over his teaching and shenanigans and cirtiques them in light of scripture and interviews with those who know Benny. These things are discussed in detail here.

Do you realize that I just can't your word for it?

But you'll take Hinn's word (a proven liar) for it?

 

[Godzman]

Benny Hinn needs to come to the throne of God and seek forgiveness

 

[BarbB]

I went to Israel last December with Pastor Jack Hayford to set up 4 altars and pray for Israel. We had 70 committed Christians of all stripes on the trip. Benny Hinn's tour followed ours by a day or two. His crowd was 500+ and was split into 4 hotels. He, himself, stayed at the King David. His crowd acted as though they were at a circus sideshow, even when he wasn't with them. Ours was wonderfully prayerful, educational, playful and prophetic. Guess who had the better time - ME and my group! It was fantastic.

The only good that I can see that Benny does is that he gets 2,000 people per year to spend $$$ in Israel.

 

[Blackhawk]

That would make Paul the biggest worker of the flesh. He spoke by the Spirit, not his mind (which is what heresy hunters motivated by jealousy and hate do).

No God uses men and their minds which are touched and influenced by the spirit to do his will most of the time. Paul was using his mind when he wrote the epistles and when he taught. God uses our abilities when they are conformed to his will. He does not override us.

He corrected and rebuked those who were trying to introduce law into grace and pervert the grace message. He was not correcting and rebuking fellow Christians for having big and successful healing ministries. And by the way, who appointed you and called you to be the watchdog?

First my point is that Paul fought against heresies and false teachings in the church. He fought against them and taught others to do so also.

And who appointed me the watchdog? Well my short answer would be Jesus, Paul, Peter, and John. And that is just in the NT alone. There are much more examples in the OT.


Matt 7:15
15 "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
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Matt 24:11-14
11 "Many false prophets will arise and will mislead many.
12 "Because lawlessness is increased, most people's love will grow cold.
13 "But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved.
14 "This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.
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Matt 24:24-26
24 "For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.
25 "Behold, I have told you in advance.
26 "So if they say to you, "Behold, He is in the wilderness,' do not go out, {or} "Behold, He is in the inner rooms,' do not believe {them.}
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Phil 3:2-3
2 Beware of the dogs, beware of the evil workers, beware of the false circumcision;
3 for we are the {true} circumcision, who worship in the Spirit of God and glory in Christ Jesus and put no confidence in the flesh,
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2 Pet 2:1-3
1 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves.
2 Many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned;
3 and in {their} greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.
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I Jn 4:1
1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
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Rev 2:1-2
1 "To the angel of the church in Ephesus write: the One who holds the seven stars in His right hand, the One who walks among the seven golden lampstands, says this:
2 "I know your deeds and your toil and perseverance, and that you cannot tolerate evil men, and you put to the test those who call themselves apostles, and they are not, and you found them {to be} false;
(NAU)

I'm sure the pharisees said the same thing about Jesus.

This is not a good rebuttal because anyone could just say that some probably said the same things about Mohammed or Buddha or whoever. It only states that some will disbelieve and fight against the some who believe. It does not show why Benny is right or if he is right. Basically it is a logical fallacy and not a real rebuttal at all.

 

[Duggie]

I have read "the confusing world of BH", A different Gospel and read articles on the CRI site. I have also seen the documentary exposing BH healing claims, however we need to be very careful when taking quotes from specific apologetic web sites and automatically attributing them to certain ministers. I also have "issues" with Benny Hinn, but they are based solely upon what I have heard him say and not what others have claimed he has said. Is he a false prophet? I have never watched his show long enough to hear him give prophecies so who am I to suggest he is. Having said that I have read his book Good Morning HolySpirit and that was evidence enough for me to avoid the teachings of BH. Peace

 

[gailmac]

Amen Lotar! Why would a real believer be speaking for God continually and it not happen?

 

[gailmac]

Really no need to yell brother. We are just having a friendly discussion.

But this is the closest we have come to actually proving whether he is a false prophet or not. I'm not so sure that BH is doing what this scripture is warning us about. I mean, he is not really saying he is a false christ or claiming that Christ is returned is he. He is saying that Jesus (the real Jesus, not a false Christ) is going to show up at meanings. You are likely correct that this is false. But still I think he is just, for whatever reason, mistaken. Maybe he is demented. Who knows. But given the NT definition of a false prophet... he would first have to be an unbeliever. And beyond that, he would have to try and persuade others away from Christ with his preaching. He would have to be saying things like "Jesus is not Lord" or "Jesus did not raise from the dead." To my knowledge (and again, I do not know... I have only briefly heard him while channel surfing), he does not try and turn people away from Jesus. Have you heard him say these things? If so, then you are correct. He is a false prophet.

Thanks for the discussion!

What do you think a wolf is going to look like in sheeps clothing? If they look like a wolf, we would know to stay away. These false people will look like sheep and act like sheep right?

Let me ask you a question. Do you believe we have wolves in sheeps clothing today? If so, who are they?

 

[gailmac]

I just have a quick question brothers and sisters,
regardless of whether he is a false prophet or not, do you think some people are still being healed by God through his ministry?

People claim to have healings in many different religions/beliefs...so what is your point?

If healings still occur when the anti-christ is here, would you be saying the same thing to those being deceived by him?

 

[gailmac]

You are comparing Benny Hinn's healings with those of Jesus?

Amen! Please name one healing ( all of you Hinn followers) in the bible that has reversed. Benny has claimed people are healed of Aids (I have it on video) and then they died a few weeks later. Benny "claims" he never tells people they are healed...LIE You guys should purchase the Benny Hinn videos out there...you will never trust the lying thief again. He is caught time and time again lying and you see Hinn say one thing, then they catch him doing another.

I also have Hinn and Steve Broch sharing a water pipe (which Hinns employee died of heroin a few weeks later after the taping). Then Steve blows the smoke out like he is having the time of his life. Hinn is wearing glasses trying to disguise himself.

Then you see Hinn's wife preaching and says "you need a holy ghost enema right up your rear end" boy that's edifying.

You wouldn't believe what you see on this. I have NEVER seen Billy Graham behave in this manner.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

What do you think a wolf is going to look like in sheeps clothing? If they look like a wolf, we would know to stay away. These false people will look like sheep and act like sheep right?

They look like sheep but they deny the gospel, they deny that Jesus is come in the flesh, that He rose form the dead etc... IOWs anything that would tell you not be believe and be saved. They are not saved themselves and openly teach and deny the gospel and the faith. Jesus said about these people "I never knew you" meaning at no time were they ever saved or born again. They are unbelievers.

Let me ask you a question. Do you believe we have wolves in sheeps clothing today? If so, who are they?

Yes. They are people who are in pulpits and are teachers who tell us we do not have to believe in Jesus, that Jesus never existed, never died for our sins, was not God, never rose from the dead and is not sitting at the right hand of the Father. They are unbelievers who teach against the gospel.

 

[gailmac]

They look like sheep but they deny the gospel, they deny that Jesus is come in the flesh, that He rose form the dead etc... IOWs anything that would tell you not be believe and be saved. They are not saved themselves and openly teach and deny the gospel and the faith. Jesus said about these people "I never knew you" meaning at no time were they ever saved or born again. They are unbelievers.

Yes. They are people who are in pulpits and are teachers who tell us we do not have to believe in Jesus, that Jesus never existed, never died for our sins, was not God, never rose from the dead and is not sitting at the right hand of the Father. They are unbelievers who teach against the gospel.

Wait just a second here. What is a sheep to you? A sheep is a believer right? So, what does a Sheep in wolves clothing look like? You described a wolf in wolves clothing.

 

[gailmac]

They look like sheep but they deny the gospel, they deny that Jesus is come in the flesh, that He rose form the dead etc... IOWs anything that would tell you not be believe and be saved. They are not saved themselves and openly teach and deny the gospel and the faith. Jesus said about these people "I never knew you" meaning at no time were they ever saved or born again. They are unbelievers.

Yes. They are people who are in pulpits and are teachers who tell us we do not have to believe in Jesus, that Jesus never existed, never died for our sins, was not God, never rose from the dead and is not sitting at the right hand of the Father. They are unbelievers who teach against the gospel.

Benny says Lord Lord and impersonates a true shepard...yet his fruit is evil. He charges people for healings.... he advertises "This is your day" for a miracle, which gives false hope... he lives a richer life than those who give money to him...he claims people are healed, then they die...he lies time and time again...he practices necromancy....he makes false claims "under the anointing".... he has said he is a little god....

yet he stands up there looking like one of us...but behind the scenes his fruit is rotten.

 

[JEREMY O'ROURKE]

I really do not because many times he is so sound in what he believes. Only God knows I at times have had the same question but look at the times that he wins alot of souls to God. He is just a normal man who makes mistakes. There is no nail prints in his hands or feet. I have seen him get off at times but he still is used by God.

 

[MikeMcK]

They look like sheep but they deny the gospel, they deny that Jesus is come in the flesh, that He rose form the dead etc... IOWs anything that would tell you not be believe and be saved. They are not saved themselves and openly teach and deny the gospel and the faith. Jesus said about these people "I never knew you" meaning at no time were they ever saved or born again. They are unbelievers.

Yes. They are people who are in pulpits and are teachers who tell us we do not have to believe in Jesus, that Jesus never existed, never died for our sins, was not God, never rose from the dead and is not sitting at the right hand of the Father. They are unbelievers who teach against the gospel.

I agree with you. I would add, in addition to denying that Jesus rose from the dead and that He came in the flesh, that they also deny the sufficiency of His atonement on the cross and teach that men are gods, just like the WoF false teachers do.

 

[MikeMcK]

Benny says Lord Lord and impersonates a true shepard...yet his fruit is evil....he lies time and time again...

This is something that I'm always surprised his followers ignore. It's been demonstrated that he lied in his book, "Good Morning Holy Spirit" when he claimed that his father was the mayor of Jaffa, Israel. His father was never mayor.

It's also been demonstrated that he lied about the story he told about the healing show, er, "service" he held in a Sault St. Marie hospital in which his "annointing" was so strong that, not only were all of the patients healed but even people who just happened to be walking by on the street.

There's just one small problem with his story: when interviewed, no one at the hospital had even heard of him. This is especially unusaly, since this is a Catholic hospital and "Benny Jehovah" would have needed special permission, not only from the hospital admin but the bishop who oversaw the hospital. No one involved had even heard of him!

My favorite lie was the one about god miraculously cancelling a hockey game between the Florida Panthers and my beloved Flyers for Benny so that he could use the arena put on a show. Just like the last example, there's one small problem: according to the NHL, there was no game scheduled in the first place that night between those two teams in that arena.

...he practices necromancy....

This is another one. Not only is this an abomination to God, if you were hanging around someone's grave hoping that their "annointing" would rub off, wouldn't you pick someone like Johnathan Edwards or C.H. Spurgeon or one of the Wesleys, rather than two women, both of whom were false teachers, one of whom was also a crook who carried on a series of adulterous affairs and backstreet abortions before her mysterious "death", which evidence suggests may have been faked to avoid a prison sentence?

...he has said he is a little god....

"I am a little Messiah walking the Earth. In fact, you can just call me Benny Jehovah" - Benny Hinn

...but behind the scenes his fruit is rotten...[/QUOTE]
Agreed, but he sure has them fooled, doesn't he?