Does God's word consider Benny Hinn False?

[Lotar]

"I believe -- here this, hear this! I believe, that JESUS, GOD’S SON, IS ABOUT TO APPEAR PHYSICALLY, IN MEETINGS AND TO BELIEVERS AROUND THE WORLD, to wake us up! He appeared after His resurrection and He is about to appear before His second coming!" (Benny Hinn, "This Is Your Day," April 2, 2000).
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"And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not: For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect" (Mark 13:21,22).
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[SavedByGrace3]

Not NT, but applicable

Well... welll not NT anyways.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Matthew 7: 15-23


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15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?​

17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.​

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.​

19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.​

20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.​

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.​

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?​

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.​

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Another of my favorites!
Just a couple observations about these false prophets.
1. They are wolves in sheep's clothing, and not actually sheep.
2. Jesus said He never knew them, regardless of what their claims are on the day of judgment.

Therefore, these false prophets were not believers.

 

[Lotar]

Another of my favorites!
Just a couple observations about these false prophets.
1. They are wolves in sheep's clothing, and not actually sheep.
2. Jesus said He never knew them, regardless of what their claims are on the day of judgment.

Therefore, these false prophets were not believers.

Of course not. Benny Hinn is not a believer, but a false prophet.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

You keep telling us to use scripture but you're the one making the claim so it's up to you to demonstrate it and you're not even using scipture...

I am not the one calling people false prophets. I don't really have to prove anything. The meat of what I am saying is that the NT false prophets are always unbelievers.
That is all. If BH claims to be a prophet, (and no-one has yet shown that he has), then the only way he could be a false prophet is by being an unbeleiver.
Can we prove this by facts? Has he denied Jesus? Has he said that Jesus has not come in the flesh or has not risen from the dead. If he has, then he indeed is a false prophet.
Ok?

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Of course not. Benny Hinn is not a believer, but a false prophet.

Well, if you are right... then he is a false prophet!




(if you are right....)

 

[1John5:3]

Benny Hinn Set Prophetic Dates in 2003
And Both Have Failed!
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http://biblelight.net/benny_hinn_sets_prophetic_dates.htm​

 

[SavedByGrace3]

"I believe -- here this, hear this! I believe, that JESUS, GOD’S SON, IS ABOUT TO APPEAR PHYSICALLY, IN MEETINGS AND TO BELIEVERS AROUND THE WORLD, to wake us up! He appeared after His resurrection and He is about to appear before His second coming!" (Benny Hinn, "This Is Your Day," April 2, 2000).

"And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not: For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect" (Mark 13:21,22).

Really no need to yell brother. We are just having a friendly discussion.

But this is the closest we have come to actually proving whether he is a false prophet or not. I'm not so sure that BH is doing what this scripture is warning us about. I mean, he is not really saying he is a false christ or claiming that Christ is returned is he. He is saying that Jesus (the real Jesus, not a false Christ) is going to show up at meanings. You are likely correct that this is false. But still I think he is just, for whatever reason, mistaken. Maybe he is demented. Who knows. But given the NT definition of a false prophet... he would first have to be an unbeliever. And beyond that, he would have to try and persuade others away from Christ with his preaching. He would have to be saying things like "Jesus is not Lord" or "Jesus did not raise from the dead." To my knowledge (and again, I do not know... I have only briefly heard him while channel surfing), he does not try and turn people away from Jesus. Have you heard him say these things? If so, then you are correct. He is a false prophet.

Thanks for the discussion!

 

[Blackhawk]

Thanks for the opinions guys.

(I could not help but notice there was no supporting scripture...)

Does there really need to be? The whole Bible is very much against false prophets that it is clear. It is almost like asking for supporting scripture for the statement that God hates sin.

And opinions are not bad if based upon God's word.

 

[Foundthelight]

If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, looks like a duck, then it is a duck. This man may come in the Lords name, but he is not from the Lord.
His prophecies are not true, his signs and wonders are false.

We have no right to judge those outside the church. We are commanded to correct those in the church who are sinning or in error. Ultimately we are commanded to cast the unrepentent out of fellowship.

Perhaps all who feel that he is in error should e-mail him with their concern. Let us see how he answers.

 

[Blackhawk]

What I said was that making mistakes does not make you a false prophet.

Yes it does. See prophecy is not like having an opinion about something. it is not believing that one has correctly interpretted scripture. Direct inspiration can't be wrong or one is a false prophet. See it is not that I believe this is what God said. No it is "This is God's word itself." So yes errors in this case would mean that he is a false prophet.

 

[Blackhawk]

Well.... I think I know what I am saying, and I am in no way excusing anyone for making mistakes. We all do. I do think we should verify what we are saying before we say it. If he is a new testament false prophet, lets use scripture to prove it and not just make accusations.

But again there is a difference then I make mistakes and saying "Thus saith the Lord" and it being wrong. The two are miles apart.

 

[Blackhawk]

I am not the one calling people false prophets. I don't really have to prove anything.

ACtually you do since you made the positive claim that false prophets in the NT are not the same as false prophets in the OT. That is a positive claim and you have give evidence to support that claim if called upon to do so. IF not then it is an unsupported claim. But no you do not have to prove that he is not a false prophet.

 

[MikeMcK]

I am not the one calling people false prophets. I don't really have to prove anything. The meat of what I am saying is that the NT false prophets are always unbelievers.
That is all. If BH claims to be a prophet, (and no-one has yet shown that he has), then the only way he could be a false prophet is by being an unbeleiver.

Do you know what a fallacy of false corelation is?

You haven't demonstrated that the NT teaches that the only way that someone can be a false prophet is to be an unbeliever and that is the crux of your argument.

BH has made himself a prophet by claiming that his predictions were divinely inspired and a product of direct revelation for him to share. Whether he has claimed to be one or not, he has made himself a prophet by prophesying.

Given what the Bible says about those who abide not in the doctrine of Christ, Hinn's teachings on the atonement, his teachings on the nature of Christ, and his teachings on the nature of man, one wonders if he is a Christian.

Can we prove this by facts? Has he denied Jesus? Has he said that Jesus has not come in the flesh or has not risen from the dead.

He has denied the suffiency of Christ's atonement. That makes him a false teacher.

 

[MikeMcK]

I am not the one calling people false prophets.

No, you're the one claiming that NT requirements for prophets are different from OT requirements for prophets, which you haven't demonstrated.

I don't really have to prove anything.

So, in other words, you're taking your ball and going home.

THen I guess that's the end of this conversation.

The meat of what I am saying is that the NT false prophets are always unbelievers.

And you still haven't demonstrated this.

the only way he could be a false prophet is by being an unbeleiver.

Or by prophesying falsely.

Can we prove this by facts? Has he denied Jesus? Has he said that Jesus has not come in the flesh or has not risen from the dead. If he has, then he indeed is a false prophet.

He has denied the suffiency of Christ's atonement on the cross.

 

[Rising_Suns]

I just have a quick question brothers and sisters,
regardless of whether he is a false prophet or not, do you think some people are still being healed by God through his ministry?

 

[Lotar]

I just have a quick question brothers and sisters,
regardless of whether he is a false prophet or not, do you think some people are still being healed by God through his ministry?

No, it's been proved that he fakes the healings.

 

[Rising_Suns]

No, it's been proved that he fakes the healings.

I often wondered how they were faked. Do you mean, they are all actors that get up on stage? Could you provide evidence to quench my curiosity?

I only ask this, because we all know that God can use even misguided people to do work through. Just read 1st romans....in any case, I was just wondering if it could be possible that some of those people were in fact ill and have in fact been healed, though alot probably were not. your thoughts?

 

[Lotar]

I often wondered how they were faked. Do you mean, they are all actors that get up on stage? Could you provide evidence to quench my curiosity?

I only ask this, because we all know that God can use even misguided people to do work through. Just read 1st romans....in any case, I was just wondering if it could be possible that some of those people were in fact ill and have in fact been healed, though alot probably were not. your thoughts?

There have been some people who the doctors believed that were never sick in the first place. Then there are a lot of people who thought they were healed when they never were, including some who have died from tumors and cancer.

There have been specials on this subject on 20/20 and HBO. He has all the christian watchdog groups after him. Search him in Google and you'll get tons of stuff.

 

[Andrew]

If you want to live long and see good days, its best you quit judging and condeming other people.

1Pe 3:10 For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile

Brother Hagin and the Copelands have refused to answer their critics. They let God handle their accusers and just faithfully do what they've been called to, after all, at the end of the day, they answer to God, not their critics.

I hope Benny Hinn will do the same. And those who support Benny Hinn and the other WOF people should do likewise too, and just let these self-appointed church policemen 'die' a natural death.