Did God know, from eternity past, before He created, that this crime would eventually happen?
Did God determine that it would happen or did he simply just know that this person would make the wrong choice?
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Did God know, from eternity past, before He created, that this crime would eventually happen?
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Read it, not impressed with his "logic"
still say God is not the author of sin
Did God determine that it would happen or did he simply just know that this person would make the wrong choice?
He knew before He even created them...and decided to create them anyway.
This is an excellent point, IMHO.Read it, not impressed with his "logic"
still say God is not the author of sin
Is He the author of confusion too in your opinion?
You don't mind if I save this quote, do you?God is the author of evil and horror for a good reason.
Like Mark Twain author?God is the author of evil and horror for a good reason.
Like Mark Twain author?
You don't mind if I save this quote, do you?
On another note, those who believe this, and the phrases that all decisions are "set in iron", every decision of every person", and that God directed that evil and sin be in his universe, will want to be ready to explain to homosexuals, while telling them that they weren't born that way that it was a choice, that at the same time it was a choice that was set in stone.
Actress' claim to be gay by choice riles activists - Yahoo! News
"The actress best known for portraying fiery lawyer Miranda Hobbes on "Sex and the City" is up to her perfectly arched eyebrows in controversy since The New York Times Magazine published a profile in which she was quoted as saying that for her, being gay was a conscious choice. Nixon is engaged to a woman with whom she has been in a relationship for eight years. Before that, she spent 15 years and had two children with a man.
"I understand that for many people it's not, but for me it's a choice, and you don't get to define my gayness for me," Nixon said while recounting some of the flak gay rights activists previously had given her for treading in similar territory. "A certain section of our community is very concerned that it not be seen as a choice, because if it's a choice, then we could opt out."
Follow it to the end of the road and see where it leads...
Way better than Mark Twain.
Author of a story, like Twain.... not accountable for the actions of Tom Sawyer.
This is begging the question and circular reasoning; and if you don't see that, it's not worth discussing. It's no different that stating that all decisions are set in iron and offering no evidence to support it, except vague scriptures taken out of context.Did God know, from eternity past, before He created, that this crime would eventually happen
Therefore, it couldn't have not happened, or else God's prior knowledge of it would be wrong.
the minute God created the universe, that horrible crime was determined to happen. There's no way around it.
Your only escape is to embrace open theism.
I do. I have repeatedly now shown examples of how I've followed your and Osage's philosophy to the end of this road and determined it to be fatalism and determinism and not Scriptural.If you want to talk about following things to their logical or philosophical conclusion, why don't you actually do it, Hupo?
So God, for His purpose, authored a plan in which man rebells?God doesn't sin because he does everything for a good reason. People sin because they do things for an evil reason.
So God, for His purpose, authored a plan in which man rebells?
Thanks
Did God determine that it would happen or did he simply just know that this person would make the wrong choice?
I see where your going with this but in what way does this negate the persons responsibility to make the right choices instead of the wrong ones?
This is begging the question and circular reasoning; and if you don't see that, it's not worth discussing. It's no different that stating that all decisions are set in iron and offering no evidence to support it, except vague scriptures taken out of context.
I do. I have repeatedly now shown examples of how I've followed your and Osage's philosophy to the end of this road and determined it to be fatalism and determinism and not Scriptural.