Does God Control Nature ? Poll

[Drought of the Heart]

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Then, what your saying is that God is a God of Retribution, reeking vengeance on those who sin.

Again my question, what about San Francisco, Boulder Colorado?

I answered you above in another post. God sent His only Son to the Cross , God never did things the way we would. The reason many come to believe Jesus was the Son of God at the Cross is this ... They believed in God the God in Job 38 so when the forms of nature took place the said this Matthew 27:
51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

54 Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.

 

[Sam91]

I attended a Mum's Bible study this morning. It was about Micah 5 and self sufficiency. During it one mum mentioned a shoet mission to some country in crisis. She mentioned that everyone there had faith in something bigger than them to provide for their needs because they new they couldn't do it for themselves. She said their hearts were more open to recieving the gospel than us in all our comforts.

I believe that the beautitudes are correct. From my own personal experience. We really do see things from a warped perspective when we think like the world.

God can and has sent disaster in the past. However, His Perfect wisdom is much greater than the specks of wisdom we might get through our dirty glasses that we see through. What I know is that my faith is strongest when needing to rely on the Lord to get through what life has dealt me. I know that when things are plain sailing I am spiritually poorer.

As to whether it is God's judgement current weather systems or just consequences for building in places which have those conditions I do not know. But I know not to question His ways with the limited angle of reference we have living in this world.

 

[JIMINZ]

One big thing everyone keeps forgetting, God Gave DOMINION to man to rule over His Creation, why then Retribution.

Like it has been said God does not micromanage.

 

[dqhall]

I did this somewhere else many years ago and was shocked that most said no. Please comment if you will.

With Hawaii , Guatemala, last years three major US Hurricanes please vote if you believe either God controls these things or it is just some random natural events...Thanks

Jesus taught about the wise man built his house on a strong foundation and the foolish man built his house on the sand. When the torrential downpours came, the house built upon the rock stood firm, but the house built upon the sand collapsed (Matthew 7:24-27). Floods and droughts come and go. People have to prepare accordingly. Some people bought homeowners insurance.

Jesus was sleeping in an open boat on Lake Tiberias (Sea of Galilee). The wind started to gust and the waves rose in height. The disciples woke Jesus and told him they feared they were going to drown. Jesus commanded the wind to be still (Mark 4:35-41).

 

[Drought of the Heart]

Elijah

James 5:17 and 18
17 Elias was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months.

18 And he prayed again, and the heaven gave rain, and the earth brought forth her fruit.

 

[Drought of the Heart]

Elijah

James 5:17 and 18
17 Elias was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months.

18 And he prayed again, and the heaven gave rain, and the earth brought forth her fruit.

Colossians 1
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

 

[JIMINZ]

Well, there was this worldwide Flood once (prior to Israel's existence) .. as well a Fire and Brimstone rain after the Flood on a couple of cities and their surround.

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Yeah but like Sodom & Gomorrah it really wasn't done to get them to Repent was it?

 

[Drought of the Heart]

To all that say not please read all the nature in Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21 that takes place in end days . We are to know why those things are happening but then Jesus in Luke 18 said this 8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?

 

[St_Worm2]

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Yeah but like Sodom & Gomorrah it really wasn't done to get them to Repent was it?

Yes, both the Flood and the Fire and Brimstone of Sodom and Gomorrah were God's judgments because they did not repent of their extraordinary evils when they had the opportunity to.

 

[Drought of the Heart]

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Yeah but like Sodom & Gomorrah it really wasn't done to get them to Repent was it?

No we have those stories to remind us not be as Sodom but Jesus says we will be as those people ... Every lava flow should remind us.

 

[Drought of the Heart]

Yes, both the Flood and the Fire and Brimstone of Sodom and Gomorrah were God's judgments for not repenting of their extraordinary evils when they had the opportunity to.

Yes floods , volcano , rainbows , winds are to remind us this is not our home ...

 

[JIMINZ]

Elijah

James 5:17 and 18
17 Elias was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months.

18 And he prayed again, and the heaven gave rain, and the earth brought forth her fruit.

Very simply

If you lived in a house in Puerto Rico, and this year there is a Hurricane going to hit the Island which is bigger and stronger than last year.

Do you pray that it will not hit?

If God has determined already that the Island needs to be torn up, and your belief is that this is the way God works, why are you praying against His Will?

 

[St_Worm2]

Yes floods , volcano , rainbows , winds are to remind us this is not our home ...

You don't think that we'll at least have a warm breeze or two every now and again on the new earth in the age to come?

 

[Sam91]

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Yeah but like Sodom & Gomorrah it really wasn't done to get them to Repent was it?

No it was to wipe out a particularly evil town.

Abraham begged the Lord for mercy and the Lord said that if there were even 10 righteous people there He would not destroy it. He showed mercy to Abraham by letting Lot and his family escape.

Why did Sodom and Gomarrah need destroyed? I do not know but I know that God was right and just in doing so. If He didn't imagine how much corruption could have grown from it and how much worse they world would beto live in.

 

[JIMINZ]

Yes, both the Flood and the Fire and Brimstone of Sodom and Gomorrah were God's judgments because they did not repent of their extraordinary evils when they had the opportunity to.

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When were they told to repent?

 

[Clint Edwards]

So I looked up the passage you cited. In that verse, Elihu is talking about clouds. It's not the words of God or even of a revered Christian writer like Paul, John or one of the prophets.
But that said, those words do ring true. However, just because God can, and does on occasion control nature, I don't believe there's Biblical precedent for the belief that God is directly involved in manipulating all natural events. I'd say that God's intervention in nature is extremely rare. He has set everything in motion and pretty much turned it over to mankind.
An interesting aspect of that though, is that it seems like humans can influence natural events using God's power. That's a different topic, but very intesting.

Yep, he turned it over to mankind, and we see how that turned out. Good created the physical laws of the universe, and allows the creation to operate according to those laws. Like you, I believe that rarely does He block the operation of these laws.

 

[Drought of the Heart]

Yep, he turned it over to mankind, and we see how that turned out. Good created the physical laws of the universe, and allows the creation to operate according to those laws. Like you, I believe that rarely does He block the operation of these laws.

He did not turn droughts , rain , clouds , lightening , thunder , earthquakes over to man, We can not even predict earthquakes or volcanoes , solar flares ect

 

[royal priest]

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Then, what your saying is that God is a God of Retribution, reeking vengeance on those who sin.

Again my question, what about San Francisco, Boulder Colorado?

Isaiah 59:18-19
"According to their deeds, so will he repay,
wrath to his adversaries, retribution to his enemies;
to the coastlands he will render repayment.
So they shall fear the name of the Lord from the west,
and his glory from the rising of the sun;
for he will come like a rushing stream,
which the wind of the Lord drives."

Luke 13:25
“Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans, because they suffered in this way? No, I tell you; but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish. Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them: do you think that they were worse offenders than all the others who lived in Jerusalem? No, I tell you; but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.”

 

[Drought of the Heart]

Very simply

If you lived in a house in Puerto Rico, and this year there is a Hurricane going to hit the Island which is bigger and stronger than last year.

Do you pray that it will not hit?

If God has determined already that the Island needs to be torn up, and your belief is that this is the way God works, why are you praying against His Will?

I always pray His will as we are told to do.

 

[Clint Edwards]

If God doesn't at least "ordain"/allow all the things you mentioned above to happen, IOW, if He is 'not' in control of all things and things happen in this world w/o His foreknowledge and consent, can He actually be considered "God"

Yours and His,
David

Isaiah 45
6c I am the LORD, and there is no other,
7 The One forming light and creating darkness,
Causing well-being and creating calamity;
I am the LORD who does all these things.​

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I find it interesting that you take on your shoulders the task of telling us the attributes that God must have to be God. I am not sure how much credence God gives to the created telling the Creator what he must be to be considered God by the created. Somehow, I don think it works that way.