Does CAsh Matter?

[intricatic]

I am a realist too
Because real life is REAL LIFE!!
And that things do happen
For a reason...God's reason!!

You got that right.

 

[Blank123]

That is obviously true, but is no excuse not to use proper, prudent precautions. Most failures in contraception are due to misuse, not inherent weaknesses of the product. Nothing can be prevented or planned against in the end--an auto accident, cancer, burglary, etc., but I still think God expects for us to keep within the speed limit, not smoke and keep our doors/windows locked.

This appears to be a contradiction. You seem to be saying that us women should just throw caution to the wind as far as finances go and trust that God will work everything out for us. Yet we are suppose to use our heads and be cautious in these other areas in order to protect ourselves - what happened to trusting that God would take care of us?

So you would tell him "look, this needs to wait until you are on your feet"?

absolutely, yes.

 

[scraparcs]

I can sort of see where you are coming from, but what if he made exactly what you made, then you have 2 kids. Where would you be then?

Stereotypically middle class?

My gf is working on her second degree and working part time. I probally earn 4 to 6 times what she does. She has loans that will need to be paid off, if/when we get married. When she graduates she will easily be able to pull in 40-60k. That combined with my salary will be very nice. 6-figs isn't all that much no days. People think its really 'making it' but it all depends on where you live and what your needs are. Keep in mind over around 80K you pay alot more taxes. So much more that the difference in making 75k and 90k isn't all that much.
By the time i have kids I want to be able to fully support my family on one income. If i was making what she makes working full time, this would be far from possible. Marriage has lot to do with roles and being comfortable with what those roles are.

Sure, but heck, you can support two kids and a family on $20k a year if you forego luxuries. (I'm not saying it's easy...and there are places such as San Francisco or New York City where you absolutely could not do it. But it's been done before -- yes, often with some assistance.)

There are roles in marriage, but I'm not ever going to be comfortable with being the provider or being provided for. I'm comfortable as an equal partner, and I'd have to seek someone who is likewise comfortable with that role.

 

[Keri]

Mou

Stereotypically middle class?
I'm comfortable as an equal partner, and I'd have to seek someone who is likewise comfortable with that role.

 

[Mrs. Luther073082]

When it comes to considering a potential partner(who is a christian), does it matter if they have a lot cream(dough, money, cash, wealth)?

No.

 

[indra_fanatic]

This appears to be a contradiction. You seem to be saying that us women should just throw caution to the wind as far as finances go and trust that God will work everything out for us. Yet we are suppose to use our heads and be cautious in these other areas in order to protect ourselves - what happened to trusting that God would take care of us?

Are you saying all birth control is unscriptural or what?

 

[indra_fanatic]

Sure, but heck, you can support two kids and a family on $20k a year if you forego luxuries. (I'm not saying it's easy...and there are places such as San Francisco or New York City where you absolutely could not do it. But it's been done before -- yes, often with some assistance.)

Yes, but is it wise to do so? Is it morally right to live like dogs and make children who have no choice in the matter do so as well?

There are roles in marriage, but I'm not ever going to be comfortable with being the provider or being provided for. I'm comfortable as an equal partner, and I'd have to seek someone who is likewise comfortable with that role.

I guess that sums me up well. Neither partner should consider themselves to be either the sole breadwinner or a dependent.

 

[scraparcs]

Yes, but is it wise to do so? Is it morally right to live like dogs and make children who have no choice in the matter do so as well?

I'd prefer to have a bit more earning potential than my hypothetical $20k before having kids, but some people never do, and so one does what one can.

I don't think I was raised like a dog (and our family was living on much less than $20k a year for a few years, although it was a few years back). More seriously, if a family is very poor, they often live around other poor families. The kids grow up around other poor kids and don't even realize that they are poor.

 

[indra_fanatic]

I don't think I was raised like a dog (and our family was living on much less than $20k a year for a few years

Inflation, inflation...

More seriously, if a family is very poor, they often live around other poor families. The kids grow up around other poor kids and don't even realize that they are poor.

This still involves a presupposition. Does God ever say that our lives are going to be all comfortable? No. Does that mean it is right to create a harsh life for a being who has no say in the matter? I think not.

 

[Tuffguy]

Stereotypically middle class?



Sure, but heck, you can support two kids and a family on $20k a year if you forego luxuries. (I'm not saying it's easy...and there are places such as San Francisco or New York City where you absolutely could not do it. But it's been done before -- yes, often with some assistance.)

There are roles in marriage, but I'm not ever going to be comfortable with being the provider or being provided for. I'm comfortable as an equal partner, and I'd have to seek someone who is likewise comfortable with that role.

I can't support myself on 20k a year. Heck i probally could but i want a comfortable retirement and i want to provide as best as possible for my future family.

Equal partner, of course. For me that doesn't mean equal income.

 

[Blank123]

Are you saying all birth control is unscriptural or what?

nope, I'm not stating my opinion on that issue either way, I was just pointing out a contradiction in your argument.

 

[Followers4christ]

Money does not matter to me at all.But the woman would have to put Jesus Christ first in her life.Also I would have to love her for it to work,I'm not just going to marry a woman just to marry.When I do marry it would be permanent because I don't believe in devorce (1 cor 7:10-11).I take the wedding vows seriously "till death do us part".God Bless

 

[sherri]

When it comes to considering a potential partner(who is a christian), does it matter if they have a lot of cream(dough, money, cash, wealth)?

I think it's incredibly naive to say 'money doesn't matter' as in - it's completely irrelevent when considering marriage. Not having enough to get by can put a huge strain on a marriage. Sometimes things happen - like illness and accident and if there's nothing in the bank those things can have disasterous consequences. I heard once that morman men arn't allowed to marry until they have at least one years savings in the bank in case of emergencies. It's just a responsability they take on. I don't know if it's true or not but I really respect the concept.

This is probably a bigger subject to me then most people because I suffered from a longtime illness on and off for 8 years. It can be very expensive to be sick and the effects of the illness can be a lot worse if you can't afford basic things like a good mattress, medical stuff, basic things to keep yourself entertained like books etc. A disability pension doesn't give you those. Poverty isn't a blessing. My brother has had a lot of pressure put on his marriage lately because he's also suffered from a serious illness the last couple of years and he's the sole breadwinner with 2 small children and another one due next month. Marriage can be hard enough without adding serious financial burdens.

That being said - if you marry someone for their money, expect to be treated just as superficially. And if you're trusting in money rather then God for security then your faith is misplaced anyway.

I'd never marry a guy for his money but then I would be pretty concerned if he only had about as much as I did at present (nada) because we'd be pretty stuffed. If I knew a guy was a hard worker or at least responsible or a student but had nothing and I had something in the bank then that would be fine. But I wouldn't marry someone who couldn't be bothered or was a lazy bum. It's not worth it.

After being poor for a long, long time and coming by misfortune to really understand the term 'grinding' poverty I now have a new and healthy respect for money. It's good stuff.

However whether it's his money or mine is fine - just as long as we have some.