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Does anyone listen to Ann Coulter anymore?

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SpaceProg said:
Dislike would be more like it. Even strongly dislike. I find that people hate far too much these days.


I hate that word also in refernce to people. I always tell my kids when I hear them say it we don't hate. We might like their ideas or how they come across but we don't hate.

People hate so much that I think they forget how strong the word 'hate' is.

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Where's that acceptance and tolerance those on the left wing of the political scale pride themselves in so much, eh?

Well in all fairness where is it from all sides?

Or are you saying that the other side of the fence is intolerant. ;)

Never mind me though. I'm in a bad mood anyway.

Didn't seem like a bad mood post to me.
 
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mhatten said:
Well in all fairness where is it from all sides?

Or are you saying that the other side of the fence is intolerant. ;)

I was meaning it more in context with all the vitriol and hatred being spewed at a woman that I'd venture to say that most people here haven't even seen in person, let alone talked to. Just because she says things that they don't agree with. Hell, she says things I don't agree with too, but I don't go out of my way saying she's evil or like Hitler or other stuff. For the most part, it's been Lefties that were spouting that, and I was referring to the ideology of being tolerant and accepting that they pride themselves so much in as opposed to the "Intolerant and Close-minded" Conservatives. Broad brushes don't feel too well, but niether does aiming a loose cannon of vitriol at people who don't feel the vehemence towards a person that you do... or vice versa.

I guess it happens on both sides too, that was something I more said out of my bad mood, which is starting to lighten a little. Apologies to all the truly tolerant Lefties out there. I didn't mean what I said with such a broad scope as it sounded.
 
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SpaceProg said:
I was meaning it more in context with all the vitriol and hatred being spewed at a woman that I'd venture to say that most people here haven't even seen in person, let alone talked to.

Well based on the vitrirol she spews I am not to sure why anyone would want to meet her let alone talk to her.


Just because she says things that they don't agree with.

Let's be honest here it is more then just disagreeing with her. She is extremely hateful in the public venue sorry to say so it's sort of like asking people to be tolerant of the KKK.


Hell, she says things I don't agree with too, but I don't go out of my way saying she's evil or like Hitler or other stuff.


Well I don't know if she is either of those things but her statements and columns are filled with hateful remarks.



For the most part, it's been Lefties that were spouting that, and I was referring to the ideology of being tolerant and accepting that they pride themselves so much in as opposed to the "Intolerant and Close-minded" Conservatives. Broad brushes don't feel too well, but niether does aiming a loose cannon of vitriol at people who don't feel the vehemence towards a person that you do... or vice versa.

Well when I said in all fairness I was speaking in general terms not just about Ann Coulter.
 
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Grizzly in post #2:
<< Hey, here's one where Ann says that Canada is "lucky we allow them to exist on the same continent" as us.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200412010011 >>

You've made a very good point here. I was appalled when Comedy Central's South Park bashed Canada. So were the Canadians.

Apparently many Americans don't know that many American planes were diverted to Canada, mostly Toronto, during the WTC crisis. Many Americans spent several days there while flights were grounded and they were quite welcome.

Likewise, apparently a lot of Americans have forgotten how the Canadians got a number of American diplomats out of Iran during the hostage crisis by giving them fake Canadian passports.

It would be interesting to know Ann Coulter and Tucker Carlson got to be er, uh, experts on Canada. Do they know that Canada sent troops to the former Yugoslavia to stand alongside American troops in the peacekeeping mission? Do they realilze that Canadians are fighting alongside Americans in Afghanistan? Do they realize that four Canadians were killed by a mistake made by an American fighter pilot in that same conflict?

American conservatives are proud of America's military strength. I'm not sure they realize that American military power depends on our networt of alliances and military bases around the world, which depend on the goodwill of other countries. That goodwill is rapidly being used up by the George W. Bush policy of kicking everyone in the teeth.

Our early warning system against missiles coming from Russia depends on Canadian cooperation. The alliances that American power and security depend on include: NORAD, with Canada, NATO, with Europe, and ANZUS, with Australia and New Zealand. I've heard hysterical rhetoric from my local isolationists on "bring it all home." I've asked them if they really want to dissolve NORAD, NATO, and ANZUS, as well as withdraw from the UN, WHO, UNICEF, etc. The isolationists reply that the answer is yes.

I must regard Ann Coulter and Tucker Carlson as isolationists who don't seem to understand what they advocate will lead to.
 
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Dale said:
Grizzly in post #2:
<< Hey, here's one where Ann says that Canada is "lucky we allow them to exist on the same continent" as us.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200412010011 >>

You've made a very good point here. I was appalled when Comedy Central's South Park bashed Canada. So were the Canadians.

Apparently many Americans don't know that many American planes were diverted to Canada, mostly Toronto, during the WTC crisis. Many Americans spent several days there while flights were grounded and they were quite welcome.

Likewise, apparently a lot of Americans have forgotten how the Canadians got a number of American diplomats out of Iran during the hostage crisis by giving them fake Canadian passports.

It would be interesting to know Ann Coulter and Tucker Carlson got to be er, uh, experts on Canada. Do they know that Canada sent troops to the former Yugoslavia to stand alongside American troops in the peacekeeping mission? Do they realilze that Canadians are fighting alongside Americans in Afghanistan? Do they realize that four Canadians were killed by a mistake made by an American fighter pilot in that same conflict?

American conservatives are proud of America's military strength. I'm not sure they realize that American military power depends on our networt of alliances and military bases around the world, which depend on the goodwill of other countries. That goodwill is rapidly being used up by the George W. Bush policy of kicking everyone in the teeth.

Our early warning system against missiles coming from Russia depends on Canadian cooperation. The alliances that American power and security depend on include: NORAD, with Canada, NATO, with Europe, and ANZUS, with Australia and New Zealand. I've heard hysterical rhetoric from my local isolationists on "bring it all home." I've asked them if they really want to dissolve NORAD, NATO, and ANZUS, as well as withdraw from the UN, WHO, UNICEF, etc. The isolationists reply that the answer is yes.

I must regard Ann Coulter and Tucker Carlson as isolationists who don't seem to understand what they advocate will lead to.


They will be the first ones to cry foul when they become victims of the very policies and climate they advocate.....
 
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WarSong said:
Of course people listen to Ann Coulter. The fact the left despises her means she's doing something right. You can judge a person by their enemies, and I hold her in high regard.

So you think it okay the way she pursues her dialogue, in a very hateful angry manner?
 
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WarSong said:
Of course people listen to Ann Coulter. The fact the left despises her means she's doing something right. You can judge a person by their enemies, and I hold her in high regard.

I think she sounds like a small dog...barking and yiping for a bit of table scraps.:thumbsup:
 
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mhatten said:
Well based on the vitrirol she spews I am not to sure why anyone would want to meet her let alone talk to her.

I think I would. At least to ask her why she feels so angry. You have to admit that at least she's ruffling feathers and getting people to think and stand up for what they themselves believe in. On both sides.

Let's be honest here it is more then just disagreeing with her. She is extremely hateful in the public venue sorry to say so it's sort of like asking people to be tolerant of the KKK.

I don't know... I wouldn't lump her in with the KKK. Just something about her makes me think that it's more than just 'hate'" I don't know. It's just a feeling I get. I've always sort of had a gift in that I can get into a person's head in a way and try to see what makes them tick. But mostly that's done only in a personal convo. Something I doubt I'll ever get with Coulter. Because of that, I can't say whether she's really a 'bad' person or not. If she says something I don't agree with, I'll just not agree with it.

Well I don't know if she is either of those things but her statements and columns are filled with hateful remarks.

I know you don't know that. You've never said she was, I don't believe. I was speaking more along the lines of certain other posters that have compared her to Hitler and other ilk of surpreme badness.

Well when I said in all fairness I was speaking in general terms not just about Ann Coulter.

Ah I see. Either way though, my apology stays. There's some good Libbies out there, after all... ;)
 
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I haven't heard too much from her. Sometimes I think she has good points, but a lot of the stuff she says is much too tactless. Actually, tactless isn't even the right word. It's more like anti-tact.

I always enjoy hearing an eloquent statement that expresses the frustration I feel sometimes or listening to someone who is really good job a debating something I think is wrong, but I also think that you need to treat your opponent with respect if you want them to take you seriously. Ann Coulter can't seem to do that.
 
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Hmm, how about some quotes of wisdom from Ms. Coulter:

“If Giuliani wants to have a national ambition, and I’m a big fan of his, he’s going to have to become pro-life if he wants to run for president. No one ever believed he was pro-choice anyway - he’s a Catholic from Queens," she says, adding, “Americans understand that Manhattan is the Soviet Union.”
-- Ann Coulter, quoted in "All Smiles On GOP's Right Wing", CBSNews.com, Sept. 1, 2004

"Kwanzaa itself is a lunatic blend of schmaltzy '60s rhetoric, black racism and Marxism. Indeed, the seven 'principles'of Kwanzaa praise collectivism in every possible arena of life – economics, work, personality, even litter removal."

"[Anti-war Democrats] know that the American people support defending America, unlike them. Their real feelings are coming out as much as they can right now, which is that they're desperately dying to provide aid and support to al-Qaeda."
-- Ann Coulter on WOR radio, September 21, 2002

Phil Donahue: "I just want to make sure we got this right. Liberals hate America. They hate all religions except Islam. Liberals love Islam, hate all other religions."
Ann Coulter: "Post 9/11."
Donahue: "Well, good for you."
--Donahue, MSNBC, July 19, 2002

"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building."
-- Ann Coulter to George Gurley, New York Observer, August 21, 2002

“If Giuliani wants to have a national ambition, and I’m a big fan of his, he’s going to have to become pro-life if he wants to run for president. No one ever believed he was pro-choice anyway - he’s a Catholic from Queens," she says, adding, “Americans understand that Manhattan is the Soviet Union.”
-- Ann Coulter, quoted in "All Smiles On GOP's Right Wing", CBSNews.com, Sept. 1, 2004

"Kwanzaa itself is a lunatic blend of schmaltzy '60s rhetoric, black racism and Marxism. Indeed, the seven 'principles'of Kwanzaa praise collectivism in every possible arena of life – economics, work, personality, even litter removal."
-- Ann Coulter, TownHall.com, Dec. 26, 200

"Well, my point is that it shows the ideological insanity of these people and how they are terrified of anyone who believes in a Being even higher than the New York Times. When you try to figure out what the Religious Right is, essentially my conclusion is that it either comes down to one man, Pat Robertson, or 80 percent of Americans, anyone who believes in God and wants his taxes cut. When you look at Pat Robertson’s positions, they are really quite moderate positions, as one would expect from a Yale Law School graduate. I may not agree with him as a conservative, but my point is they are trying to demonize Pat Robertson as some sort of horned conservative. If he didn't believe in God and go on TV and talk about it, he would be Jim Jeffords, he would be Christie Todd Whitman, I mean just in his political positions. It really shows how crazy these people are. They really are terrified of believing Christians."
-- Ann Coulter to Pat Robertson, The $700 Club, Oct. 2, 2002

"[Anti-war Democrats] know that the American people support defending America, unlike them. Their real feelings are coming out as much as they can right now, which is that they're desperately dying to provide aid and support to al-Qaeda."
-- Ann Coulter on WOR radio, September 21, 2002

"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building."
-- Ann Coulter to George Gurley, New York Observer, August 21, 2002

Phil Donahue: "I just want to make sure we got this right. Liberals hate America. They hate all religions except Islam. Liberals love Islam, hate all other religions."
Ann Coulter: "Post 9/11."
Donahue: "Well, good for you."
--Donahue, MSNBC, July 19, 2002

"[In response to Mike Barnacle] I've been promoting my book today so I haven't read the [Ninth Circuit] decision [declaring the Pledge of Allegiance unconstitutional]. Perhaps there was a misunderstanding about my coming on this program to talk about my book. But I will guess that the judges who said the pledge of allegiance violates the constitution were appointed by Democrats and not Republicans I haven't looked at the decision, I haven't heard about the decision. But that's a wild guess I'm going to make.... [Later, responding to Katrina van den Heuvel] Oh, I'm just waiting to see if anyone will take any bets on me on whether the judges who wrote this decision were appointed by a Democrat or a Republican."
-- Ann Coulter on MSNBC's Hardball, June 27, 2002
NOTE: The decision was rendered by Judge Alfred T. Goodwin, appointed by President Richard Milhous Nixon, 1971

Ann Coulter: "I can tell which ones don't need to be looked at, I can tell you that. Old ladies, old black men, little children, blondes, blue eyed. Do this experiment. I've done it many times: go around wherever you are, and you can always exclude about 80% of the people there, and I know once again Congressman Honda will not tell us the other factors that are going to be so crucial in figuring out which ones the terrorists are."
Rep. Mike Honda (D-CA): "You know there's another form of terrorism in the country, and that's the kind of terrorism that you spread. It's through racial profiling, and you're simply out of step."
Michael "The Moralist" Medved: "Congressman Honda, do you really want to compare Ann Coulter to the people who attacked the United States on September 11? ... You want to stand by your accusation that Ann Coulter is a terrorist?"
Honda: "Her comments and everything else engenders fear in people, it creates fear in people and it brings up other people who are out of step who will listen to that and turn around and target other people and were about educating people about what's the best way of proceeding and misinformation and using race as the soul ingredient is out of step."
-- The Michael Medved Show, March 18, 2002

"As Mineta has endlessly recounted in interviews of late: 'I remember on the 29th of May, 1942' -- note that he remembers the day -- 'when we boarded the train in San Jose under armed guard, the military guard, I was in my Cub Scout uniform carrying a baseball, baseball glove and a baseball bat. And as I boarded the train, the MPs confiscated the bat on the basis it could be used as a lethal weapon.'
"Good G-d! A guard took Mineta's baseball bat as a child, and as a result he's subjecting all of America to the Bataan Death March! Someone please give him a baseball bat."
-- Ann Coulter, Jewish World Review, Feb. 28, 2002

"Ann is an illustration of how a certain kind of virulent right-wing politics is based on emotion, not reason. Almost to a one, I found that the most hateful voices on the right were venting their own deep-seated problems and frustrations. "
-- David Brock, Washington Post, Feb. 26, 2002

From "Cam Kate":
On [Fox News Channel's February 7th] Hannity and Colmes, Alan Colmes confronted Ann Coulter with the following statement she made at the Conservative Political Action Committee conference:"We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed too."
Coulter whined to Colmes, "I didn't know we were talking about this tonight, but now that you've sprungit on me..." but confirmed she made the comment and boasted it was a "huge hit with the audience."
Colmes: "You hate liberals. You despise liberals. This is unbelievable.We should execute them to make liberals scared?"
Coulter: "Right. Right!"
-- Feb. 10, 2002

"...a cruise missile is more important than Head Start."
-- Ann Coulter, Nov. 2001 speech rebroadcast by C-Span in Jan. 2002

On Islamic extremists: "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."
-- Ann Coulter, National Review Online, September 2001

"The presumption of innocence only means you don't go right to jail."
-- Ann Coulter, Hannity & Colmes,August 24, 2001

"God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, 'Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it! It's yours.'"
-- Ann Coulter, Hannity & Colmes,June 20, 2001

"The thing I like about Bush is I think he hates liberals."
-- Ann Coulter, Washington Post, August 1, 2000

"[The] backbone of the Democratic Party [is a] typical fat, implacable welfare recipient"
-- Ann Coulter, syndicated column, October 29, 1999

"If you don't hate Clinton and the people who labored to keep him in office, you don't love your country."
-- Ann Coulter, George, July 1999

To a disabled Vietnam vet: "People like you caused us to lose that war."
-- Ann Coulter, MSNBC

"I think there should be a literacy test and a poll tax for people to vote."
-- Ann Coulter, Hannity & Colmes, August 17, 1997

"My libertarian friends are probably getting a little upset now but I think that's because they never appreciate the benefits of local fascism."
-- Ann Coulter, MSNBC, February 8, 1997

Source: americanpolitics.com
 
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Blemonds said:
I just find it ironic that in light of all the hatefulness towards her, she is called hateful. I guess her detractors are firm believers in an "eye for an eye"

LOL. Ann wants to declare liberals as "traitors", invade all muslim countries and force them to convert to Christianity, and thinks that Canada is lucky that we allow it to exist, and liberals are the ones filled with hatefulness? :scratch:

No, I am the one filled with criticism. If Ann Coulter's car broke down on the road, I would stop and offer assistance. If she were my neighbor and needed a hand, I would offer help. I don't hate Ann. I just don't like that she distorts the facts to spead lies. If that's hate, then we need to redefine the term.

But you will notice that no here thinks she should be forced to stop (unlike Ann's unamerican attitudes toward liberals). If Ann had her way, liberal dissent would be a crime (traditionally, not an American ideal). I think she has every right to be as hateful as she wants. But I have a right to argue against her views.
 
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The presumption of innocence only means you don't go right to jail."
-- Ann Coulter, Hannity & Colmes,August 24, 2001


I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free.....for now.
 
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From "Cam Kate":
On [Fox News Channel's February 7th] Hannity and Colmes, Alan Colmes confronted Ann Coulter with the following statement she made at the Conservative Political Action Committee conference:"We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed too."
Coulter whined to Colmes, "I didn't know we were talking about this tonight, but now that you've sprungit on me..." but confirmed she made the comment and boasted it was a "huge hit with the audience."
Colmes: "You hate liberals. You despise liberals. This is unbelievable.We should execute them to make liberals scared?"
Coulter: "Right. Right!"



Outstanding. But remember, we are the ones filled with hate because we don't agree with Ann....
 
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Grizzly said:
LOL. Ann wants to declare liberals as "traitors", invade all muslim countries and force them to convert to Christianity, and thinks that Canada is lucky that we allow it to exist, and liberals are the ones filled with hatefulness?
A lot of liberals, like John Kerry, Jim McDermott, Patty Murray, Sean Penn, David Bonior, et al are traitors. I give her credit for saying so. I don't recall Ann saying we should invade ALL muslim countries, but I could be wrong. Maybe you could support that claim of yours. By the way, that was one of my favorite remarks from ANn
 
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