Does "all things" mean everything?

[enoch son]

Should makes God the only POTANTE.

 

[Elijah2]

Wow!! That is a terrible accusation to make about your brothers and sisters “who post” in this forum. I hope I misunderstood you.

My guess is that you consider yourself above others in this forum like those you have imagined post here and, IMO, that speaks more of spiritual pride than discernment.

~Neal N. Boyd

The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.​

Wow, what a terrible accusation to make of this sincere Aussie. How

Your telling the story mate!

 

[razzelflabben]

I know I am terribly dense sometimes, but I really wish people could just simply answer the question the OP presents...oh well, I guess that is a bit too much to ask...

 

[enoch son]

I know I am terribly dense sometimes, but I really wish people could just simply answer the question the OP presents...oh well, I guess that is a bit too much to ask...

thats it in a nutshell. Not one of us can teach you anything about God because it's not our "belief" it's what God has taught. I ran around in the circle of up-down-in-out of God's love till He said "My love is no greater for you then anybody else or the creation of His Son." So it come down to a God thing and His good pleasure not our's.

 

[razzelflabben]

thats it in a nutshell. Not one of us can teach you anything about God because it's not our "belief" it's what God has taught. I ran around in the circle of up-down-in-out of God's love till He said "My love is no greater for you then anybody else or the creation of His Son." So it come down to a God thing and His good pleasure not our's.

Once again you speak as though you are God...what the heck does your opinion, your answer to the OP have to do with God's authority on the question?

Look the OP asked a question...a question that as best I can figure has three possibles. I personally find scripture lining up with only one of those possibles and boldly proclaimed so. Then you and others come on and speak some posts that sound as if you don't have a clue what is going on, so I ask and I get more gobbledy (Staff Edit). So what I don't understand is how your opinion equals what God says or my failures as a believer. Your opinion is your opinion, if you disagree with me show me in scripture where i have it wrong so that I can evaluate it myself. If you agree, stop trying to judge me based on our supposed disagreement. If you see a different possible, please put it forth for consideration.

YOUR OPINION HAS NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH MY PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD!!!! Time for you to grasp that.

 

[enoch son]

Once again you speak as though you are God...what the heck does your opinion, your answer to the OP have to do with God's authority on the question?

Look the OP asked a question...a question that as best I can figure has three possibles. I personally find scripture lining up with only one of those possibles and boldly proclaimed so. Then you and others come on and speak some posts that sound as if you don't have a clue what is going on, so I ask and I get more gobbledy [wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth]. So what I don't understand is how your opinion equals what God says or my failures as a believer. Your opinion is your opinion, if you disagree with me show me in scripture where i have it wrong so that I can evaluate it myself. If you agree, stop trying to judge me based on our supposed disagreement. If you see a different possible, please put it forth for consideration.

YOUR OPINION HAS NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH MY PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD!!!! Time for you to grasp that.

(Staff Edit) "For God so love the world" (kosmos, everything) speaks volumes to me.

 

[razzelflabben]

Depends how doctrines explains "all" and "everything". This basically go against our human and horizontal perspective on life. God is ruling all things to work together for our good and His purpose. Everything that happens in our lives somehow fits into the plan of God.

When you look at this verse: Proverbs 22:2
The rich and the poor have this in common, The LORD is the maker of them all.

How do you answer to that? Romans 11:36
For of Him and through Him and to Him are all things, to whom be glory forever. Amen.

EVERYTHING can bring Christians out the BEST in us (See: Gen. 22:1-2, 15-18; Hebrews 11:17) OR to bring out the WORST in us (see: James 1:13-14). Bad things happen to everybody because we are living in a sinful world.

In ALL situations, good or bad, Paul reminds us in 2 Corinthians 9:8 "And God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work."

okay, so I'm taking from this that you believe that when the bible says, all things are possible only believe, you think it is literal all things.

I agree, but I also think that the qualifier is according to God's will. In other words, if is as He purposes/wills, not only because of our belief, but our belief coupled with His will.

 

[razzelflabben]

Should makes God the only POTANTE.[/quote


So because God is potante then I shouldn't love people enough to value them or their opinions and any insight they might have from the wonders of God that they have been shown? Wow, my bible says to love all people...that means I am to find all people of value and that would include but not be limited to their opinions on a matter.

Apparently you and I read different bibles, because no where in the Holy Bible does it tell me to dismiss another without cause. forgive me apparently I broke some spiritual law of yours by valuing you by asking you to explain your position.

 

[enoch son]

Our belief what a joke. It's the belief of Christ and Him alone. If it is your belief then tell me why did He have to HID us in Him?

 

[razzelflabben]

Talking about lack of fruit. "For God so love the world" (kosmos, everything) speaks volumes to me.

But me loving you enough to ask you to explain what you are trying to say is wrong because God is potante....where does it end? I can't love you enough to ask, but if I don't ask, I am not loving you...that is a catch 22 that no one, including God can win.

 

[razzelflabben]

Our belief what a joke. It's the belief of Christ and Him alone. If it is your belief then tell me why did He have to HID us in Him?

What belief are you referring to and what hiding are you referring to?

 

[enoch son]

Should makes God the only POTANTE.[/quote


So because God is potante then I shouldn't love people enough to value them or their opinions and any insight they might have from the wonders of God that they have been shown? Wow, my bible says to love all people...that means I am to find all people of value and that would include but not be limited to their opinions on a matter.

Apparently you and I read different bibles, because no where in the Holy Bible does it tell me to dismiss another without cause. forgive me apparently I broke some spiritual law of yours by valuing you by asking you to explain your position.

Down playing God to up play one self as the all as I see it is less then a spiritual law it was hung from a tree and done away with. As for love. Till one falls on ones face and see's the only true potante then how can one see love at all. My Lord and God I am you slave, this pot is your for your making.

 

[razzelflabben]

Down playing God to up play one self as the all as I see it is less then a spiritual law

which is why I have such a hard time understanding your posts, you talk about God being all, but then turn around and judge others as if you were God and as if that weren't enough, you hid your ideas behind the illusion that all you are saying is God's words. Like it or not, you say much more than God's words and the self that is exposed is ugly to say the least, lacking love, lacking gentleness, lacking truth.

it was hung from a tree and done away with. As for love. Till one falls on ones face and see's the only true potante then how can one see love at all.

and what makes you assume that me or anyone else here hasn't done just that? What makes you think you can judge another much less judge without knowing them? Do you think you are the only person in the world who has fallen before a Holy God and allowed Him to blow away all the chaff, exposing the self that needs to be crucified that He might live?

My Lord and God I am you slave, this pot is your for your making.

And your point is....?