Does "all things" mean everything?

[JimB]

Not one bent knee my Lord. I see your point. talk is cheep. for it is written "Not everyone one on that day who say's lord,lord."

Talk is "cheep"?

Just poking fun, Son. Sorry.

~Sarah Bellum

The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.​

 

[razzelflabben]

Talk is "cheep"?

Just poking fun, Son. Sorry.

~Sarah Bellum

The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.​

still God's to judge, no matter how you look at it. We are responsible for self, not the rest of the world...

 

[Elijah2]

the key words here are 'with God".

that's how Jesus did everything--with God--working in the same way He saw His Father working, doing the things He saw the Father doing.



this bears repeating!

I do get very confused, when all and sundry refer to GOD. As far as I am concerned GOD is our Lord Jesus Christ. HE is the Word, and HE is our Lord Jesus Christ and HE is our Almighty God.

But, at the time, when HE was on earth, HE spoke to HIS HEAVENLY FATHER!

Now, when we speak, we speak to our Lord Jesus Christ, who is GOD! SO how come all and sundry can't say our Lord Jesus Christ, because HE is our GOD!

Praise our Lord Jesus Christ!

Blessings!

 

[map4]

I do get very confused, when all and sundry refer to GOD. As far as I am concerned GOD is our Lord Jesus Christ. HE is the Word, and HE is our Lord Jesus Christ and HE is our Almighty God.

But, at the time, when HE was on earth, HE spoke to HIS HEAVENLY FATHER!

Now, when we speak, we speak to our Lord Jesus Christ, who is GOD! SO how come all and sundry can't say our Lord Jesus Christ, because HE is our GOD!

Praise our Lord Jesus Christ!

Blessings!

Don't know about anyone else but I have no problem calling Jesus my Lord and Savior. Have said so many times on here.

If I am talking about God the Father, then I call Him that, our heavenly Father. Sometimes I talk about the Holy Spirit.

Elijah, I don't know if you just used my post as an example to ask your question or if you were wondering if I, specifically, can't call Jesus my Lord.
Rest assured that if I say God, I don't mean anyone else.

 

[enoch son]

Agian talk is cheap read what is written not what error has told you.
Eph.4;6 one God and Father of ALL (the whole, everthing) who is over ALL and through ALL and in ALL.

 

[razzelflabben]

Agian talk is cheap read what is written not what error has told you.
Eph.4;6 one God and Father of ALL (the whole, everthing) who is over ALL and through ALL and in ALL.

I don't even know how to try anymore...

 

[enoch son]

I don't even know how to try anymore...

Because the book wasn't written in english by God. He choose Hebrew and Greek. So as long as one"try's" in english the less meaning one words will have. Welcome to the club. I would say go beat your head agian the wall but I know from doing it, it doesn't help. Read the greek go to the strong's even he got it right.

 

[razzelflabben]

Because the book wasn't written in english by God. He choose Hebrew and Greek. So as long as one"try's" in english the less meaning one words will have. Welcome to the club. I would say go bent your head agian the wall but I know from doing it, it doesn't help. Read the greek go to the strong's even he got it right.

How please, is the study of the Greek going to help me understand your point????? It is as if you speak some foreign lang. or post in code...I not only use my studies from the Heb. and Greek and others but have a husband who studied both and aids my study any time it is necessary, but all that doesn't help me understand what the heck your point is. I understand the meaning of the word all, but that doesn't explain what you intend to say...when I have said this before, you act as if you are God and if I only understood God I would understand you. Sorry to be the one to inform you, but you aren't God...that being said, I have no clue what your point is and I'm tired of asking only for you to put me down and try to judge me for valuing your opinion.

 

[enoch son]

He Is The Whole Of Everything And The Whole Of Everything. He Even Say's It Twice So He Could Be So Very Clear. Nothing Was Created Out Side Of Him. He Is In Everything, By Everything, For Everything. His Words Are Forever Mans Words Are Cheap.

 

[Elijah2]

Don't know about anyone else but I have no problem calling Jesus my Lord and Savior. Have said so many times on here.

If I am talking about God the Father, then I call Him that, our heavenly Father. Sometimes I talk about the Holy Spirit.

Elijah, I don't know if you just used my post as an example to ask your question or if you were wondering if I, specifically, can't call Jesus my Lord.
Rest assured that if I say God, I don't mean anyone else.

Nah mate, I wasn't having a crack at you, but expressing my concern about how many are Christ-centred. I find many who post would shudder and cry out if they EVER spoke HIS NAME, and called HIM their Lord Jesus Christ.

Blessings!

 

[map4]

Nah mate, I wasn't having a crack at you, but expressing my concern about how many are Christ-centred. I find many who post would shudder and cry out if they EVER spoke HIS NAME, and called HIM their Lord Jesus Christ.

Blessings!

I completely understand

 

[JimB]

Nah mate, I wasn't having a crack at you, but expressing my concern about how many are Christ-centred. I find many who post would shudder and cry out if they EVER spoke HIS NAME, and called HIM their Lord Jesus Christ.

Blessings!

Wow!! That is a terrible accusation to make about your brothers and sisters “who post” in this forum. I hope I misunderstood you.

My guess is that you consider yourself above others in this forum like those you have imagined post here and, IMO, that speaks more of spiritual pride than discernment.

~Neal N. Boyd

The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.​

 

[enoch son]

Let just say here for one to write that all as somehow lost it meaning because one doesn't see wings is less then a dumb statement. It only shows that sight is more important then what God has said. And He say's He is the whole of everything (all in all strong's #3956). Which means what God has said is the only thing that matters no matter what one see's with one's eyes.
1. 1 Cor. 15;28
"When all (whole of everything #3956) things are subjected to Him (God the Father),then the son Himself also will be subject (this happean when He was told to seat down at the right hand) to the One (God the father) who subject (past tense) ALL things (#3956) to Him, so that God "may be" ( this is wrong greek the greek say's #2443 "purpose or result") ALL IN ALL".
I believe this
As for being told I think myself God it only show's the lack of understanding of the word by someone who think's they are a teacher. "Can the hand say to the foot." If one is in His body then one is a part or a cell of Jesus, making one a part.
Go to the strong's in the 9 @1/3 pages of ALL in the new test. only a hand full of some 280 x's use does the word ALL not mean the whole of everything.

 

[enoch son]

Wow!! That is a terrible accusation to make about your brothers and sisters “who post” in this forum. I hope I misunderstood you.

My guess is that you consider yourself above others in this forum like those you have imagined post here and, IMO, that speaks more of spiritual pride than discernment.

~Neal N. Boyd

The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.​

I agree with the other brother I do not see bended knee's in many also. there talk is cheap, there action speak louder.

 

[razzelflabben]

So, after all this...whatever it is....I see us with three possibles,
1. it is a figurative all, as in all the people cheered..
2. all is literal as in all every last one, but is qualified by God's will/purpose
and 3. all is literal and needs no qualifier

Now best I can tell

2. is the only biblical explaination that is consistent throughout the bible.

Can anyone offer any scripture to show the others as being viable alternatives...

As to all the other nonsense, I'm out, if we can't even answer simple questions without passing judgment and attacking, what makes us think that the author of love is within us?

 

[razzelflabben]

Let just say here for one to write that all as somehow lost it meaning because one doesn't see wings is less then a dumb statement. It only shows that sight is more important then what God has said. And He say's He is the whole of everything (all in all strong's #3956). Which means what God has said is the only thing that matters no matter what one see's with one's eyes.
1. 1 Cor. 15;28
"When all (whole of everything #3956) things are subjected to Him (God the Father),then the son Himself also will be subject (this happean when He was told to seat down at the right hand) to the One (God the father) who subject (past tense) ALL things (#3956) to Him, so that God "may be" ( this is wrong greek the greek say's #2443 "purpose or result") ALL IN ALL".
I believe this
As for being told I think myself God it only show's the lack of understanding of the word by someone who think's they are a teacher. "Can the hand say to the foot." If one is in His body then one is a part or a cell of Jesus, making one a part.
Go to the strong's in the 9 @1/3 pages of ALL in the new test. only a hand full of some 280 x's use does the word ALL not mean the whole of everything.

Just for the record, I asked you from the posts you presented if you thought yourself God and you gave no response.

In addition, just so the record is straight, I do not think myself a teacher of anything

 

[JimB]

Just for the record, I asked you from the posts you presented if you thought yourself God and you gave no response.

*****

I think what you are going to get is a lot of strange double talk with hidden meanings no one has the desire or energy to figure out.

Good luck.

~Neal N. Boyd

The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.​

 

[JimfromOhio]

Hebrews 2:10
In bringing many sons to glory, it was fitting that God, for whom and through whom everything exists, should make the author of their salvation perfect through suffering.

1 John 2:16
For everything in the world—the cravings of sinful man, the lust of his eyes and the boasting of what he has and does—comes not from the Father but from the world.

 

[razzelflabben]

Hebrews 2:10
In bringing many sons to glory, it was fitting that God, for whom and through whom everything exists, should make the author of their salvation perfect through suffering.

1 John 2:16
For everything in the world—the cravings of sinful man, the lust of his eyes and the boasting of what he has and does—comes not from the Father but from the world.

and so which of the above do you side with then?

 

[JimfromOhio]

and so which of the above do you side with then?

Depends how doctrines explains "all" and "everything". This basically go against our human and horizontal perspective on life. God is ruling all things to work together for our good and His purpose. Everything that happens in our lives somehow fits into the plan of God.

When you look at this verse: Proverbs 22:2
The rich and the poor have this in common, The LORD is the maker of them all.

How do you answer to that? Romans 11:36
For of Him and through Him and to Him are all things, to whom be glory forever. Amen.

EVERYTHING can bring Christians out the BEST in us (See: Gen. 22:1-2, 15-18; Hebrews 11:17) OR to bring out the WORST in us (see: James 1:13-14). Bad things happen to everybody because we are living in a sinful world.

In ALL situations, good or bad, Paul reminds us in 2 Corinthians 9:8 "And God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work."