Do you think Noah's Ark is on Arrat???

[Aman777]

Agree

Thanks. Here are the others:

***3. Gen 1:21...Among the diversity of animals, many share similar structures: birds, reptiles, mammals, and so forth. This argues at least as persuasively for a common Designer as it does for a common life source. All life did not come from the same primordial cell, but it did all come from the same Designer.

Amen.

*** 4. Gen 2:21...I agree to that. God did put Adam to sleep and removed a rib..Not that God had to...he could have done it without sleep and pain.

Amen.

*** 5. Gen 6:4...I think you should read a few chapter ahead of this. This isn't about populating the earth. Yet it did, help of course. But it's more about the mixing of marriage between those who did not worship God and those who did.

Remember..context...context...context.

And I agree there is a God. The proof is already in all men and women. Many know this and give Him glory. A few, whom the bible calls fools, deny the righteousness that is within them.

Here are my thoughts on Gen 6:4:

Gen 6:4 There were (intellectual) giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God (prehistoric people) came in unto the daughters of men, (Heb-Adam) and they bare children to them, (Adam's daughters) the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Cain married and passed Adam's superior intelligence, which is like God's, Gen 3:22 to his descendants on Adam's Earth, which came from he and his prehistoric wife, whose ancestors came forth from the water on the 5th Day. The interesting thing is "and also after that" since the SAME thing happened on our Planet when Noah's grandsons, like Cain, had NO other Humans (descendants of Adam) to marry.

This is WHY today's Humans have the superior intelligence of Adam AND the DNA and ERVs of prehistoric people within our blood. Such a happening could NOT be produced by Godless Evolution but could ONLY be inherited from this union. A good example is Noah's grandson Cush, since he had NO other Human to marry and yet he and his prehistoric wife produced Nimrod, the builder of the First Human cities on our Earth. Gen 10:8 Nimrod had Adam's intelligence and the DNA of prehistoric people, so he became a mighty man, an intellectual giant, in our Earth's History. Amen?

 

[RickG]

I am a YEC ..., but I think more like 10-12 thousand years.

I'm an old earth scientist and based upon multitudes of independent means of determining the age of things, I disagree.

 

[Edmond Smith]

Here are my thoughts on Gen 6:4:

Gen 6:4 There were (intellectual) giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God (prehistoric people) came in unto the daughters of men, (Heb-Adam) and they bare children to them, (Adam's daughters) the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Cain married and passed Adam's superior intelligence, which is like God's, Gen 3:22 to his descendants on Adam's Earth, which came from he and his prehistoric wife, whose ancestors came forth from the water on the 5th Day. The interesting thing is "and also after that" since the SAME thing happened on our Planet when Noah's grandsons, like Cain, had NO other Humans (descendants of Adam) to marry.

This is WHY today's Humans have the superior intelligence of Adam AND the DNA and ERVs of prehistoric people within our blood. Such a happening could NOT be produced by Godless Evolution but could ONLY be inherited from this union. A good example is Noah's grandson Cush, since he had NO other Human to marry and yet he and his prehistoric wife produced Nimrod, the builder of the First Human cities on our Earth. Gen 10:8 Nimrod had Adam's intelligence and the DNA of prehistoric people, so he became a mighty man, an intellectual giant, in our Earth's History. Amen?

Aman777
I thank God for you defending the gospel and your belief in God and Christ.

Hope you don't mind me elaborating a little more about context.

A TEXT, TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT, IS A PRETEXT, FOR PROOFTEXT

Words have meaning; and their context gives weight to their import. Biblical truth is no exception. The terms and the truth they represent have meaning and their context gives the weight of meaning in application to our lives.

Now about Gen 6:4

You have to keep it in context. Go back to Gen 6:1

Gen 6:1
And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

This is after the genealogies of Adam and Cain. There were so many about their own business and not God's that they were compared to giants. So many of whom were wicked and violent. Not only the men, the women were guilty of their sinfulness and depraved desires.

Gen 6:2
That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

The sons of God, were the men who were descendants of Seth. Seth was blessed by God. But as the years went by and sin became more prominent, they to started looking in another direction besides God.
The daughters of men, were the women who were descendants of Cain. They were fair, we would say good looking. Now these women worshipped other gods and lived their life sinfully.
God didn't want the and still doesn't want unequally yoked marriages. A Christian man marrying a unsaved woman or Christian woman marring an unsaved man. Can become a very hard life to live together. Yes Paul says that the man may bring the wife to Christ or that the woman could bring the husband to Christ, today. But back then, Christ hadn't come to be the savior yet. They were under the Law.

Gen 6:3
And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

Pretty self explanatory. God said this because of the immorality and sinfulness that was running rampant at that time. Now there is a matter of debate on the 120 years part. Some commentaries say that is the total age limit that a human could possibly live, others say that it's the first warning of God's wrath about to becoming to earth.
The flood.

Gen 6:4
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Now this makes more sense. The giants isn't about intelligence. It's about the amount of people who have turned from God, so many that it was compared like the size of a man. And that after the sons of God and the daughters of men had children, the children became mighty men, but without God.

To show where this was going Read Gen 6:5-8....then comes the flood.

 

[Aman777]

Aman777
I thank God for you defending the gospel and your belief in God and Christ.

Hope you don't mind me elaborating a little more about context.

A TEXT, TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT, IS A PRETEXT, FOR PROOFTEXT

Words have meaning; and their context gives weight to their import. Biblical truth is no exception. The terms and the truth they represent have meaning and their context gives the weight of meaning in application to our lives.

Now about Gen 6:4

Thank you for recognizing a brother in Christ. My views are very controversial because they show a "last days" view which reveals what God was actually telling us in Genesis. Let's discuss it and promise not to get mad at me, but read it as if it were written by the Supreme Intelligence of Creation instead of by ancient men.

***You have to keep it in context. Go back to Gen 6:1

Gen 6:1
And it came to pass, when men (Heb-Adam) began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

This is after the genealogies of Adam and Cain. There were so many about their own business and not God's that they were compared to giants. So many of whom were wicked and violent. Not only the men, the women were guilty of their sinfulness and depraved desires.

I don't see where the verse you posted states that. The genealogy of Adam runs through Seth all the way to Jesus. The reason the word giants is used is because the ancient Hebrew religious scholars THOUGHT it meant fallen angels instead of excellent, noble and skillful . All Humans are wicked and we are the most violent of all of God's creatures. That's WHY Jesus had to die. The ancient theologians were mistaken.

http://www.blbclassic.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=H5303&t=KJV
**** Gen 6:2
That the sons of God saw the daughters of men (Adam) that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

The sons of God, were the men who were descendants of Seth.

Doesn't work, since the word used in this verse for men is the Hebrew word Adam, which means "mankind". God called THEIR name Adam in the Day they were created. Gen 5:2 The sons of God (Elohim-The Trinity) are the innocent beings created from the water on the 5th Day. Gen 1:21 Science calls them prehistoric and AGREES that their origin was in the water.

*** Seth was blessed by God. But as the years went by and sin became more prominent, they to started looking in another direction besides God.
The daughters of men, were the women who were descendants of Cain. They were fair, we would say good looking. Now these women worshipped other gods and lived their life sinfully.

Like Humans? NO. They were the innocent prehistoric women who have left their bones all over our Earth for Millions of years. They were NOT subject to the Law of God since they were too dumb to understand the difference between Good and Evil. Like ALL Natural Beings, they were programmed in advance with an intelligence level much BELOW Adam's level, which is like God's. Gen 3:22

*** God didn't want the and still doesn't want unequally yoked marriages. A Christian man marrying a unsaved woman or Christian woman marring an unsaved man. Can become a very hard life to live together. Yes Paul says that the man may bring the wife to Christ or that the woman could bring the husband to Christ, today. But back then, Christ hadn't come to be the savior yet. They were under the Law.

Gen 6:3
And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

Pretty self explanatory. God said this because of the immorality and sinfulness that was running rampant at that time.

What does this have to do with the offspring? Sin is in ALL flesh. Immorality and sinfulness was about as rampant as it could be when Cain killed Abel. This demonstrates the violence of Humans since mankind didn't need to get any more rampant. ALL of man's righteousnesses are as filthy rags when compared to the perfect Jesus.

***Now there is a matter of debate on the 120 years part. Some commentaries say that is the total age limit that a human could possibly live, others say that it's the first warning of God's wrath about to becoming to earth.
The flood.

I know but the Flood account which imagines that God meant it would be 120 years before the flood is UnScriptural. I call it Religion since it's the superstitious view of ancient men who could NOT understand Genesis. IF they had, Jesus would NOT have had to die for their sins.

Gen 6:4
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, (Adam) and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Now this makes more sense. The giants isn't about intelligence. It's about the amount of people who have turned from God, so many that it was compared like the size of a man. And that after the sons of God and the daughters of men had children, the children became mighty men, but without God.

You believe exactly what the ancient Hebrews thought. It's a religion or belief put forth by ancient men which cannot be supported by Scripture. Falwell used to call it that "old time religion". It cannot explain How the DNA of prehistoric people got inside the 7 Billion Humans alive today.

*** To show where this was going Read Gen 6:5-8....then comes the flood.

Let's go all the way to Genesis 6:13 which is the first time God tells Noah that He is going to destroy Adam's Earth. Why doesn't your narrative show this event? It's the end of Adam's firmament/Heaven because it's time to bring Noah to our Planet so that his grandsons can begin to produce the 7 Billion Humans (descendants of Adam) alive on Planet Earth today. In just 10k years God has populated our Planet with Billions of believers in Jesus Christ, who will inherit Heaven because of His workmanship.

History confirms God's Truth and records the arrival of the Ark in Lake Van, Turkey and in the valleys of Northern Mesopotamia between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers some 11k years ago. Lake Van is between Mt Ararat and the center of the Fertile Crescent where the first Human farming appeared SUDDENLY with the arrival of the descendants of Adam, who was made with an intelligence like God's. Lake Van is the perfect place to dock the 450 foot Ark.

Here's the historical proof which agrees with Scripture http://www.fsmitha.com/h1/map00-fc.html and records the arrival of the FIRST Human to arrive on Planet Earth. The history of Human civilization can be traced to Noah'a arrival exactly as God told us in Genesis 8.

Your story is not true scientifically nor historically but God's is. It's God's confirmation that we live today in the last days before Jesus returns. It doesn't mean that you are not a Christian because ALL Christians believe in God by Faith, including our first father and mother who were "created in God's Image" or born again Spiritually and Eternally in Christ in Gen 5:1-2. I can hardly wait to meet them in Heaven. How bout you? God Bless you