If everything is holy, then nothing is Holy. I've seen nothing coming from the White House but corruption, attacks on religion, and attacks on the citizens themselves. If anything, the Whiote House is the antithesis of holiness.
You are aware of the fact that I never said everything is holy. Only those items with meaning and the White House is is being degraded and corrupted indeed. But that is mostly because of Christian Republicans
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Did Jesus have 15 wives and marry a six year old? I don't think so. The lesson of the fig tree is beyond your comprehension. Let me clarify. The tree was requested by Jesus to bring forth fruit. it did not, and was destroyed. Man is commanded to bring forth good fruit. If he refuses, then he too will die. It's glaringly obvious.
What is wrong with polygamy? It was practiced in the Bible along with slavery. Both of which I have no issues with
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Jesus is not mentioned in the Old Testament also. Man ate of the tree and acquired wisdom. God hates us having wisdom? If sin brings wisdom I would rather have sin. I do not understand this fixation on god and fruit because all of in which sounds metaphorical and something pulled out of 2 Greek and Chinese myths. Perhaps it is just coincidence.
So Fifty Shades of Gray is a holy book about God, as is the Penthouse Forum? I gotcha!
Find me a sentence in either literary pieces and show to me where it says "This book is the word of god".
But I know I am asking to much.
Absolute fabrication. A prophet is one who reveals the messages of God to His people. Mohammed was a false prophet. His messages were never from God, and showed no consistency. He couldn't fortell future events, which is how a prophet demonstrates his connection to God.
Only an imperfect god requires prophecy. Only a god who does not know the future makes prophets. It is ironic that the god of the Bible can make man prophecy the future but he could not prophecy the future of Adam and Eve ironically. It is weird he creates a Devil who rejects his creator and yet can still give mankind glimpses into the future
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I treat neither Qur'an nor Bible as literal words of a perfect deity but I regard the Qur'an as a closer concept of what a truly perfect god is. Prophets and violence aside it is still a more functional book.
No, there is a difference between a prophet and a story teller.
Says you when using English. Say this in East Asia and you acquire a whole other story.
GENGHIS KHAN WAS A PROPHET??
So he said. It motivated his actions.
One deity, three facets of that diety. When Mohammed denied that Jesus was the son of God, he proved that he was not a prophet.
Please confirm the truth of the Bible then explain why it should be taken as the guide to prophethood. The Bible said Egypt would be destroyed and the Nile run dry but neither of these things happened. So much for prophetic accuracy.
If you think your religion is monotheistic then why are Hindus polytheists? Having been knee deep in Sanatana Dharma, Hindus believe all gods are facets of the one impersonal god known as Brahman.
Do you acknowledge Hindus as monotheists considering they believe in 330 million deities being facets of one?
You are aware that he began as a thief, right, and that taking the goods of others by force was one of his greatest joys.
Please provide evidence for this
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Jesus taught to love your enemies. Mohammed taught to kill your enemies. Mohammed taught misogyny, racism and slavery. That's hardly a reform. Even the Romans were less barbaric.
Your Bible taught the exact same thing. It taught that genocide was appropriate. Read the Books of Numbers and Deuteronomy and you will get my point.
Muhammad also regulated slavery and forbid beating them. There is a famous narration of Muhammad freeing a slave-girl after she lost some of the animals she was suppose to be caring for. Her master wanted to beat her and Muhammad asked her where is your real Master and she said above the heavens. He freed her because she was a Muslim afterwards.
Sadly if you are claiming Muhammad was wicked then it all falls down on the act he messed up and did many horrible things but it does not change the fact he stabilized a whole region. Now we have people declaring an ancient law as requirement of a jama'ah yet it is not even mandated.
Yes, until the discovery of oil, the region was worthless. Things don't grow in sand. If not for the Arab Slave Trade and the discovery of oil, the region would still be a wasteland populated by roving tribes.
This is a lie and you know it because where else do you get your coffee beans from? A major import that was demanded and it was not until centuries later Arabica coffee beans were grown abroad. One of the most demanded beverages was an Arab treasure. Should I mention the other imports by Arabians? Did I not mention the spice routes which happened to be thanks to Makkah? Did you not know that this is where Muhammad met his first wife?
Living a life free from sin, healing the sick, walking on water and raising the dead will get a person's attention.
Sadly these things did not happen.
Why are they not occurring now? Wait, i forgot you have a habit of making excuses.
1 Corintians 15:6 "After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep."
Over 500 people at one time is an insignificant number for you? How many people saw Mohammed walking and talking after he died?
No, I think your rejection of God's word is quite evident.
You only say this.
They were never equivalent. Science is the study of the creation, religion is the study of the Creator. God's laws have alwayst superseded natural laws.
Then why do you measure science to religion? If science says soething not supported by your religion it is not accepted. Religions mostly taught that god created the earth in a certain manner but now we know how it was actually created.
Religion was science at first. It was all there was.
Your statment is completely false. It has been refuted so many times even the atheists have stopped making the claim.
Point me to the direction of the 4 corners of the earth please
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The church executed jesus too. What's the point?
Church? No Church killed Jesus, the Roman Empire did.
Wrong. Some religious leaders saw the claims of scientists to be blasphemous. That doesn't mean that religion was ever scientific. However, many very learned men studied both.
Yes they have including many Muslims who found out the earth was round.
If he wrote things in the Q'uran that were not true, then he lied.
Muhamma dnever wrote the Qur'an. It was compiled after his death from memory.
I thought you knew a lot about Muhammad? But I keep forgetting you lie often
If you think that science can validate the actions of a supernatural God, then you really don't understand either.
Then how do you prove your god's existence?
No, it just has its limitations. The study of the natural world cannot explain, validate or invalidate the supernatural world.
It is not suppose to but if you state that your supernatural world or god interacts with this world you should be able to prove it.
Specifically your god.
You obviously don't understand the difference between religion and the peopl who practice religions.
No I understand both. Why were Christian symbols found on almost all architecture of the Byzantine empire?
Christianity was used as a political tool.
See above. Who did Jesus slaughter??
He has sent trillions of people to hell for not accepting him according to your belief. he tortures them for eternity as well.
Also the prophets before him and Christians after him did lots of killing.
Homosexuals are executed right now in Iran in accordance with Sharia law. You should be happy. Which homosexuals did Jesus murder, again?
Refer to the comment above.
Does it even looks like I care about Shariyah law? I do not even support it yet alone any government based from religion.
I missed the verse where Jusus said, "Thou shalt burn witches at the stake and stone homosexuals." Can you point it out to me?
He does it in another dimension .
You're the deist that eschews religion, you tell me. Religion is the organized worship of the deity. God requires no such orgnaization to exist.
You were calling me an atheist earlier, what happened. Now you suddenly claim one does not need religion to believe in god? Oh this is funny.
I just told you earlier god requires no religion to exist now you believe in it.
Then why not use capital letters if you are refering to God as a personal noun?
Semantics? This is what atheists use when they fall into failure
I fail to see how one's choice of religions affect his intelligence so I won't go there. It's interesting, though, that your interpretation of God is different from both Mohammed and Jesus. I guess that when God mande man in His iamge, some men decided they could return the favor.
Christianity is no different. It made god in the Hellenic image. Notice God the Father thowing lightening bolts
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I learned a long time ago that bragging about my intelligence is not as effective as demonstrating it.
Yet you do not accept scientific fact? You are only as smart as the person next to you and although I am not incredibly smart compared to the millions of other people in front of me I at least do not reject factual events with factual evidence.
No, it's spot on. The rejection of God is the action of a fool. David nailed it.
The rejection of your god!
You are not humble and when you say that "My religion is the true word of god" that is arrogance speaking. That is ego. Ego makes people make such claims and offer nothing to validate those claims.
I do not speak from my ego nor do I try to make Muhammad a fallible man more accepting then what he is. You try to justify the actions in the Bible.....wait I forgot, you do not. You just ignore them.
In my experience, the bad ones are the ones who don't challenge your sinful beliefs, but let you procede without bothering to point out how they differ from God's word. However, you are free to despise me to your heart's content.
I do not despise you. You despise me or else you would not have spent your time trying to effortlessly insult me on the first response and calling me an atheist.
Judging from my posts I am receiving great comedic relief responding to you.
Muhammad challenged, polytheism, forbid adultery, incest, and bickering. He also slaughtered various tribal leaders that desired feudal government and wished to deny any for of unity. There was no Saudi Arabia nor Iraq in his time, just a pool of semi countries that were nothing but anarchic tribes battling for selfish needs. You think the violence and separation in the Middle East now is something, go back to lands that had thousands of tribes bickering. At least it is not divided into roughly 40 or 50.
""I'm still alive but I'm barely breathing; Just prayin' to a god that I don't believe in..." You must be a fan of The Script.
I do not know of the script nor do I pray to something I do not believe in. Prayer is asking god to move heaven and earth to break the laws of physics to save one petty human. We are not so important unlike what you think.
This is a thread about beliefs, not scientific proofs. Perhaps you're in the wrong thread.
Thread is about evolution and religion so it is about both.
The fact that God Himself stated otherwise; unless you don't believe the ten ommandments, either.
Prove to me god gave a man named Moses the ten commandments. Please prove this.
The fact that I believe His word; and that He isn't lying.
it is a fact that you believe inwhat you think is his word. But to say he is not lying is quite a brash statement which requires proof.
All religious texts should be studied for what they are worth. They are not meant to be taken literal at all.
Hey, it's your lie, you tell it. Just don't try to tie it to the God who actually DID create the universe.
It is not a lie since my statements can be validated. I also said earlier that god DID create the universe. You lied, not me
Your lack of understanding about God is curious considering your extensive studying on the subject.
Hmmm. I study god in all shapes and forms while you stick to a book with no proof. I am suppose to be curious and not close minded. How else do you think I learn? You just denied the ability to learn. I feel safe to say i am smarter then you if you reject curiosity.
It is essential to be curious but not too curious.
