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You are wrong. I took a quick glance at it, found what I wanted, and went my way.
Hey, I proved my point, and it remains unassailable.
What more can I ask for?
See, the really sad thing about all of this is that even if I asked you to tell me which grammatical errors I am referring to when I criticise Mr Shamoun's argument, you wouldn't be able to tell me.
Evangelion... you must realize that you have yet to take what I posted and show its error. You have stated that it is incorrect... too long... etc, but have not addressed it at all.
Your theory pertaining to John 1 is that... it doesn't really mean what it says: The Word was God.
You don't think that Christ is the Word...
you think that the Word came into Him...
yet... it doesn't say the word came into flesh...
it says it became it.
YesRead Rev 19:13
You assert that you are well aware of my "points", so please... show the errors that you assume to be there. You will not be able to do so with the Bible.
If 2Peter1:4 was your "point" then I'm a happy man.
The sad reality being that I've asked you [this being twice] to refute his argument
and you won't
Assertion with no supporting argument. You ought to see how HE feels it should readNo, my theory pertaining to John 1:1 is that it means exactly what it says, and that you're not reading it properly.
Assertion. His reasoning is baseless and easily refuted [as has been done]. Also, Jesus is the logos not only of Jn1 but of Rev19:13 and 1John1:1-2. Need I mention the parallels to 'Wisdom'?He is not the logos of John 1:1-3, no. He is the logos-made-flesh of John 1:14.
A little closer to that 'reflection'- 1John1:1-2. Did he mention his explanation of Jn1:10?Rev19:13
Why? What's that going to prove? That Christ bears a particular title which reflects the Johannine prologue? So what?
No, I didn't.II Peter 1:4 + Louw Nida + LSJ was my point. If you're still a happy man after all that, then you missed my point. Sorry.
Or in other words "I don't actually have an argument so I'll jump up and down and wave my hands to distract you". Please.I've given you a hint. Now you work it out.
*snip*
They say precisely what he intended to convey. Now provide a full rebuttal.I've done more than enough with it. Certainly more than it deserves.
Read Shamoun's proof texts very carefully. They don't say what he claims
Which part of that are we presenting to you inadequately?
AND---help me to understand your view. You agree that "THE WORD-BECAME-FLESH" was Jesus.
You agree that there are not "TWO DIFFERENT WORDS".
So then, in your view, the WORD must have CHANGED.
What was the Word, when the Word was in the beginning with God?
They say precisely what he intended to convey.
Now provide a full rebuttal.
So the WORD was God, but the WORD was not Jesus; then the WORD (God) changed and became Jesus. Is that what you believe?quote:
So then, in your view, the WORD must have CHANGED.
Yep.
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