Do you believe in ghosts?

[Belk]

No, what that precisely is is saying "don't know." But thx for confirming your stance.

I was addressing the comments in your post, but clearly no point in belaboring this, moving on......

Yes, if you can't tell the difference between "You said" and "You think" it is likely best we move on.

LOL

Right. That image is a joke, as it obviously depends on people's opinions of when they were "madly in love"/etc. Hardly scientific. If Rutgers really put that out, they should hang their heads in shame.

What are your scientific qualifications and are they in relevant areas? Quite frankly I do not find your un-sourced brusque dismissal as credible over the research done by actual scientists.

Believe that if it makes you happy. The fact remains love cannot be scientifically proven and it is not at all measurable let alone provable (scientifically of course).

Actual scientists disagree with you. I will take their research over your out of hand dismissal.

I assume you mean ghosts, and I already did (though it applies to anything beyond our existence in this world): and it's just that, ie they are (assuming they exist that is; to me the jury is very much out) not some simple "scientific phenomena;' they are something beyond our world/universe/existence.

Do you know the difference between a claim and an explanation? Saying they are "something beyond our world/universe/existence" is a claim. Saying we are able to experience this because of X but science is unable to measure X is an explanation.

We know our senses only allow us to experience physical things in this universe. If, as you claim, ghosts are not a part of that we would not be able to experience them. You claim we can experience ghosts. To experience them we must either be able to sense things that are beyond somehow or they must interact with the physical universe in some fashion. Which is it?

 

[selfinflikted]

If you've been here for years then you should understand this is a Christian forum. We believe God's existence to be a fact. If you don't agree, that's your version of the "facts." Don't complain if somebody posts Christian reasoning for things. No one forces you to be a part of this community.

I understand this is a Christian forum. If you believe god's existence to be fact, that's fine with me. That belief, however, is not a fact. It is a belief. That's why there are two different words to described belief and fact.

 

[bill5]

That's probably why he/she said "We believe God's existence to be a fact." You're stating the obvious.

And yet it's ironic, coming from someone who states their own opinions as facts.

 

[selfinflikted]

That's probably why he/she said "We believe God's existence to be a fact." You're stating the obvious.

And yet it's ironic, coming from someone who states their own opinions as facts.

No, the poster originally used "fact" and "faith" interchangeably.

Nowhere have I said that "Fact: Ghosts don't exist." I have, however, stated that I believe ghosts exist as much as I believe the boogeyman exists.

 

[Blessedj01]

I understand this is a Christian forum. If you believe god's existence to be fact, that's fine with me. That belief, however, is not a fact. It is a belief. That's why there are two different words to described belief and fact.

It's a fact, sorry. I have to affirm that fact in order to list my faith as Christian before posting.

Obviously I know you don't think it's a fact. That's your belief, which you think is fact.

Why are we wasting time splitting hairs over this?

 

[Blessedj01]

No, the poster originally used "fact" and "faith" interchangeably. Nowhere have I said that "Fact: Ghosts don't exist." I have, however, stated that I believe ghosts exist as much as I believe the boogeyman exists.

The facts I was referring to are theological facts. It's theologically wrong, in my opinion, to believe the "Virgin Mary" appeared on top of a church. Theologically speaking, this could not happen except for some scientific explanation or the Devil's trickery.

Those were the "facts" I was talking about.

 

[selfinflikted]

It's a fact, sorry. I have to affirm that fact in order to list my faith as Christian before posting.

Obviously I know you don't think it's a fact. That's your belief, which you think is fact.

Why are we wasting time splitting hairs over this?

Nothing else to do? I dunno.

The facts I was referring to are theological facts. It's theologically wrong, in my opinion, to believe the "Virgin Mary" appeared on top of a church. Theologically speaking, this could not happen except for some scientific explanation or the Devil's trickery.

Those were the "facts" I was talking about.

You can't say "The facts I was referring to.." and then say "It's theologically wrong, in my opinion..."

Again, using the two interchangeably.

 

[Blessedj01]

Nothing else to do? I dunno. You can't say "The facts I was referring to.." and then say "It's theologically wrong, in my opinion..." Again, using the two interchangeably.

Dude, we have different theological camps on here . Why do you even care about theological "facts" if you believe none of them to be true?

 

[Blessedj01]

We have different theological camps on here. Why do you even care about theological "facts" if you believe none of them to be true?

I think I can say whatever I want, bro.

 

[Miss Spaulding]

No, I don't. Never have.

 

[selfinflikted]

Duds, we have different theological camps on here . Why do you even care about theological "facts" if you believe none of them to be true?

You can say whatever you want. It won't make you right, of course. I realize I am picking nits here, and all I'm trying to do is to get you to stop confusing opinion and belief with fact. Facts are facts, regardless of belief and opinion.

 

[Blessedj01]

You can say whatever you want. It won't make you right, of course. I realize I am picking nits here, and all I'm trying to do is to get you to stop confusing opinion and belief with fact. Facts are facts, regardless of belief and opinion.

Welcome to ignore.

 

[selfinflikted]

 

[Lollerskates]

Welcome to ignore.

I just learned about that lol... has done wonders for me not getting warnings that other parties seem impervious to receiving.

 

[Miss Spaulding]

The jerks and just utter hatefulness in these sections of this website never ceases to amaze me.

You people...lol.

 

[Darkhorse]

The jerks and just utter hatefulness in these sections of this website never ceases to amaze me.

You people...lol.

Amen to that...what difference does it make whether people disagree with you, or not?

It certainly doesn't matter to me...

 

[Lollerskates]

Amen to that...what difference does it make whether people disagree with you, or not?

It certainly doesn't matter to me...

Disagreeing is fine.

Insinuations of various negatives (lack of logic, craziness, hallucinogenic behavior, psychosomatic induced sightings, etc.) is not.

 

[madaz]

You can say whatever you want. It won't make you right, of course. I realize I am picking nits here, and all I'm trying to do is to get you to stop confusing opinion and belief with fact. Facts are facts, regardless of belief and opinion.

Ive noticed he has confused opinion and belief with fact on another thread. As much as its pointed out to him he just doesn't seem to want to correct this.

 

[bill5]

Nowhere have I said that "Fact: Ghosts don't exist." I have, however, stated that I believe ghosts exist as much as I believe the boogeyman exists.

You have indeed stated it as "fact" when in "fact" nobody can say with 100% certainty that they do or do not exist, but thx for clarifying.

 

[Blessedj01]

Ive noticed he has confused opinion and belief with fact on another thread. As much as its pointed out to him he just doesn't seem to want to correct this.

Hi, are you a member of the thought police too? Can I see your badge?