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Do the current violent actions

Do the violent actions taken out on Trump supporters:

  • Make you more likely to vote for Trump

    Votes: 22 42.3%
  • Make you less likely to vote for Trump

    Votes: 4 7.7%
  • Will not affect your vote

    Votes: 26 50.0%

  • Total voters
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There has to be some mathematical formula that connect those 4(?) to all Trump supporters making them all racist, sexist and xenophobic and whatever other derogatory connotation you can think of......leftists are so pathetic......

The sampling was too small for him to even mention.
 
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His comments are the very definition of racism.

Good. Then it won't be hard for you to give a proper definition of racism and then provide the example you have in mind and share them with the rest of us.
 
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How can people see what is going on and not recognize what is going on? There is a hot link in the photo to a news montage I found interesting. There is some violence, and a F bomb in a text shown on the screen, so if you find that kind of stuff offensive stear clear.



Ok... if this is your supporter, and you do not publicly denounce it, what does that mean?

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Wait a minute.... was that racist?

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So, let me get this straight... against Trump, pro USSR?

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Why are they disrespecting the american flag if they are so concerned what Trump will do to their beloved nation?

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Ahh Ha! That's why. Fly the Mexican flag. Fly the Soviet Union flag. But burn the eeeevil american flag. Beat up voters. Burn cars. Is that is what responsible people do to save the country from a perceived evil racist like Trump? This entire circus reminds me of a 3 year old having a temper tantrum.

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Good. Then it won't be hard for you to give a proper definition of racism and then provide the example you have in mind and share them with the rest of us.
Saying that an entire group of people all share a negative trait, like Jews are greedy or Blacks are lazy. It insinuates that they are lower than one's own group.
 
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It is true. The ONLY reason he wants this judge to recuse himself is that he feels he cannot be objective BECAUSE HE IS MEXICAN.
He is not Mexican. He was born in Indiana and is as American as any native born person.
 
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It is true. The ONLY reason he wants this judge to recuse himself is that he feels he cannot be objective BECAUSE HE IS MEXICAN.
Let's be honest. It's not only because the judge is Mexican-American. You cannot ignore all the rest of his life, and you can be sure that if the judge instead were Alberto Gonzales, the former US Attorney General, the situation would be totally different.
 
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Saying that an entire group of people all share a negative trait, like Jews are greedy or Blacks are lazy. It insinuates that they are lower than one's own group.

Nice try. Please attach actual quotes and links etc.
 
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It is true. The ONLY reason he wants this judge to recuse himself is that he feels he cannot be objective BECAUSE HE IS MEXICAN.

Not true. You are uninformed. There is much more to it than your silly little claim.
 
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Let's be honest. It's not only because the judge is Mexican-American. You cannot ignore all the rest of his life, and you can be sure that if the judge instead were Alberto Gonzales, the former US Attorney General, the situation would be totally different.

Bingo!
 
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It is true. The ONLY reason he wants this judge to recuse himself is that he feels he cannot be objective BECAUSE HE IS MEXICAN.

He never said that the judge cannot be objective - merely that he was not objective.
 
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There has to be some mathematical formula that connect those 4(?) to all Trump supporters making them all racist, sexist and xenophobic and whatever other derogatory connotation you can think of......leftists are so pathetic......

Seems like, most of the friends I have are not Trump supporters. Of the few who are, they seem to match the sterotype in one or more ways. . . with no evidence to the contrary.

It strikes me odd, that not supporting Trump "automatically" gets me labeled "leftist" though that couldn't be further from the truth & that seems valid to the same folk uncomfortable with my anecdotal (as indicated & with the limitations anecdotal evidence always has) associations toward Trump supporters. . . . who sang "Ironic"? Man, that was a good song. . . I digress. . . .

For the record, I am an Anarcho-capitalist. . . which is kind of a Libertarian who doesn't trust Minarchy beyond seeing it as a necessary stepping stone to Statelessness. It is a point of view that is neither left nor right, but concerned wholly with the other axis (Various flavors of authoritarianism vs. personal responsibility & cooperative statelessness)
 
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It strikes me odd, that not supporting Trump "automatically" gets me labeled "leftist" though that couldn't be further from the truth & that seems valid to the same folk uncomfortable with my anecdotal (as indicated & with the limitations anecdotal evidence always has) associations toward Trump supporters. . . . who sang "Ironic"? Man, that was a good song. . . I digress. . . .
As it strikes me odd that supporters of Trump automatially get labeled racist, sexist and xenophobic (amongst other derogatory labels). And it also strikes me odd that the progressive lefists are almost exclusively the ones to resort to violence against those who dare to express a political opinion other than their own....witness the violence against Trump supporters if you doubt that statement. I think there is fair probability of the GOP convention experiencing a similar repeat of what happened at the DNC in 1968. However it won't be by unhappy GOP members but by progressive leftists descending on Cleveland attempting to shut down any opposing viewpoint; we will see what happens....I hope I am wrong.....
 
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He is not Mexican. He was born in Indiana and is as American as any native born person.
He is "Mexican-American." To Donald Trump, that makes him Mexican.
 
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